Western diet and disease risks found

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Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

The "Western" diet--one especially high in red and processed meats and
refined grain--linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, stroke,
colon cancer, and heart disease in women.
The report's lead author, noted that the "Western" eating pattern high
in red and processed meats, also has been linked in recent past
studies to an increased risk of stroke, colon cancer, and heart
disease.

Nutrition Professor Teresa Fung of the Simmons College School for
Health Studies, noted that with this new analysis. " we can add
diabetes to the list. I think this is another reason to shift away
from that type of diet."

The new study found that the "Western diet" high in red and processed
meats and refined grains, as opposed to a diet low in those
foodstuffs, is associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes in
women.

"Therefore," the study concluded, "it may be prudent to reduce
consumption of these foods items to decrease the risk of type 2
diabetes."

Fung says that for a long time, it was uncertain whether diet directly
affects the risk of type 2 diabetes. While it is well known that
obesity increases the risk, and diet is related to obesity, little
data was available to see if diet has any influence beyond its effect
on weight. Fung's study broke away from the traditional way of looking
at foods one at a time to see if they were related to diabetes risk,
and instead looked at an individual's entire dietary pattern.

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

Seriously what is your problem? Do you seriously buy into that simple
minded BS?? I will tell you what is the main characteristic of the
"western" diet moron. It is liquid polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
hydrogenated vegetable shortenings. THAT smart guy is what
distinguishes the "western" diet from other healthy traditional diets
around the world, MANY of which include red meat but NONE of them!!
NONE include large amounts of liquid/hydrogenated veg oils if any at
all. The fact that those things were not even mentioned is appalling
and a total joke. Even someone so obviously blind as you should see
that simple fact. Can you seriously not get that through your head?
Are you that incompetent?? Are you so stupid that you can not come to
that simple real conclusion for yourself? Are you really unable to
take into account ALL the facts and ALL the elements of modern western
diets as well as various other diets around the world and honestly and
logically analyses and compare them. If you did you would be able to
single out elements which are most likely to be responsible for poor
health. Red meat is simply not one of them. While they got it partly
right in naming refined carbs even that is not the main distinguishing
factor of poor diets as there are some healthy peoples who do eat a
moderate amount of such things. However the fact that they left out
the true factor that STICKS OUT LIKE A [censored] SORE THUMB is absurd.
It is just as absurd for you to go along with it without even raising
a question. You need to start using your [censored] brain and think a
little harder instead of regurgitating garbage like that. You must
not just compare diets of today with each other but take into account
diet patterns of the last 100 years. As I know you understand the
"modernized" or "western" diet is always followed by poor health
within a short time of a previously traditional diet being abandoned
during the modernization of a population. The number one factor
involved in the modernization of diet are cheap manufactured
liquid/hydrogenated vegetable fats being introduced into a previously
traditional diet. It happened first in the US 100 years ago which is
why we are so far ahead of other countries in poor health. Other
countries who were modernized later in the century or have yet to be
modernized and still eat more traditional diets or did not fully
modernize their diets along with their society like Japan. Do not
take my word for it just look at this quote from the Agricultural
Utilization Research Institute about the edible oil industry.

"Worldwide vegetable oil consumption (of which soybean oil represents
28%) is growing at a faster rate than population—4.1% compared to 1.3%
compounded over the past five years. As the developing world continues
to improve its standard of living, this trend will continue. Per
capita vegetable oil consumption is a good measure of a country's
prosperity."

And there you have it. The true food of prosperity and modernization.
THAT is what the modern "western" diet is all about. That is why it
is so unhealthy. And for some strange reason it is almost never
mentioned in any talk of unhealthy modern western diets by the
mainstream medical establishment. I wonder why. hmmm. Of course that
is understandable considering the influence of certain interests.
What is not understandable is your dumb compliance and total lack of
any ability to question or think for yourself. You need a big reality
check.

On 17 Nov 2004 19:13:15 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)

Quoted message said:

Seriously what is your problem? Do you seriously buy into that simple
minded BS?? I will tell you what is the main characteristic of the
"western" diet moron. It is liquid polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
hydrogenated vegetable shortenings. THAT smart guy is what
distinguishes the "western" diet from other healthy traditional diets
around the world, MANY of which include red meat but NONE of them!!
NONE include large amounts of liquid/hydrogenated veg oils if any at
all. The fact that those things were not even mentioned is appalling
and a total joke. Even someone so obviously blind as you should see
that simple fact. Can you seriously not get that through your head?
Are you that incompetent?? Are you so stupid that you can not come to
that simple real conclusion for yourself? Are you really unable to
take into account ALL the facts and ALL the elements of modern western
diets as well as various other diets around the world and honestly and
logically analyses and compare them. If you did you would be able to
single out elements which are most likely to be responsible for poor
health. Red meat is simply not one of them. While they got it partly
right in naming refined carbs even that is not the main distinguishing
factor of poor diets as there are some healthy peoples who do eat a
moderate amount of such things. However the fact that they left out
the true factor that STICKS OUT LIKE A [censored] SORE THUMB is absurd.
It is just as absurd for you to go along with it without even raising
a question. You need to start using your [censored] brain and think a
little harder instead of regurgitating garbage like that. You must
not just compare diets of today with each other but take into account
diet patterns of the last 100 years. As I know you understand the
"modernized" or "western" diet is always followed by poor health
within a short time of a previously traditional diet being abandoned
during the modernization of a population. The number one factor
involved in the modernization of diet are cheap manufactured
liquid/hydrogenated vegetable fats being introduced into a previously
traditional diet. It happened first in the US 100 years ago which is
why we are so far ahead of other countries in poor health. Other
countries who were modernized later in the century or have yet to be
modernized and still eat more traditional diets or did not fully
modernize their diets along with their society like Japan. Do not
take my word for it just look at this quote from the Agricultural
Utilization Research Institute about the edible oil industry.

"Worldwide vegetable oil consumption (of which soybean oil represents
28%) is growing at a faster rate than population—4.1% compared to 1.3%
compounded over the past five years. As the developing world continues
to improve its standard of living, this trend will continue. Per
capita vegetable oil consumption is a good measure of a country's
prosperity."

And there you have it. The true food of prosperity and modernization.
THAT is what the modern "western" diet is all about. That is why it
is so unhealthy. And for some strange reason it is almost never
mentioned in any talk of unhealthy modern western diets by the
mainstream medical establishment. I wonder why. hmmm. Of course that
is understandable considering the influence of certain interests.
What is not understandable is your dumb compliance and total lack of
any ability to question or think for yourself. You need a big reality
check.

It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

My great grandmother lived to age 96. She cooked with lard and used butter
and cream. Eggs and bacon were a regular item on her diet. No margarine in
that lady's diet! Oh and she loved ice cream.

Regards.

Rob

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Quoted message said:

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

The "Western" diet--one especially high in red and processed meats and
refined grain--linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, stroke,
colon cancer, and heart disease in women.
The report's lead author, noted that the "Western" eating pattern high
in red and processed meats, also has been linked in recent past
studies to an increased risk of stroke, colon cancer, and heart
disease.

Nutrition Professor Teresa Fung of the Simmons College School for
Health Studies, noted that with this new analysis. " we can add
diabetes to the list. I think this is another reason to shift away
from that type of diet."

The new study found that the "Western diet" high in red and processed
meats and refined grains, as opposed to a diet low in those
foodstuffs, is associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes in
women.

"Therefore," the study concluded, "it may be prudent to reduce
consumption of these foods items to decrease the risk of type 2
diabetes."

Fung says that for a long time, it was uncertain whether diet directly
affects the risk of type 2 diabetes. While it is well known that
obesity increases the risk, and diet is related to obesity, little
data was available to see if diet has any influence beyond its effect
on weight. Fung's study broke away from the traditional way of looking
at foods one at a time to see if they were related to diabetes risk,
and instead looked at an individual's entire dietary pattern.

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:41:41 -0500, "Rob Ruddy" <[email hidden]>
posted:

Quoted message said:

My great grandmother lived to age 96. She cooked with lard and used butter
and cream. Eggs and bacon were a regular item on her diet. No margarine in
that lady's diet! Oh and she loved ice cream.

Regards.

Rob

And then there is the old guy who dies at 102 who has smoked since he
was 12, and had a shot of whiskey every day since 16. Died with all
his faculties intact, being shot on the nest by a jealous husband.

Or the guy of 43 who fell off the perch from CVD from smoking and
eating too much? Biological variation comes to mind.

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Quoted message said:

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

The "Western" diet--one especially high in red and processed meats and
refined grain--linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, stroke,
colon cancer, and heart disease in women.
The report's lead author, noted that the "Western" eating pattern high
in red and processed meats, also has been linked in recent past
studies to an increased risk of stroke, colon cancer, and heart
disease.

Nutrition Professor Teresa Fung of the Simmons College School for
Health Studies, noted that with this new analysis. " we can add
diabetes to the list. I think this is another reason to shift away
from that type of diet."

The new study found that the "Western diet" high in red and processed
meats and refined grains, as opposed to a diet low in those
foodstuffs, is associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes in
women.

"Therefore," the study concluded, "it may be prudent to reduce
consumption of these foods items to decrease the risk of type 2
diabetes."

Fung says that for a long time, it was uncertain whether diet directly
affects the risk of type 2 diabetes. While it is well known that
obesity increases the risk, and diet is related to obesity, little
data was available to see if diet has any influence beyond its effect
on weight. Fung's study broke away from the traditional way of looking
at foods one at a time to see if they were related to diabetes risk,
and instead looked at an individual's entire dietary pattern.

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

On 18 Nov 2004 06:17:13 -0600, jt <[email hidden]> posted:

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On 17 Nov 2004 19:13:15 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)

Quoted message said:

Seriously what is your problem? Do you seriously buy into that simple
minded BS?? I will tell you what is the main characteristic of the
"western" diet moron. It is liquid polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
hydrogenated vegetable shortenings. THAT smart guy is what
distinguishes the "western" diet from other healthy traditional diets
around the world, MANY of which include red meat but NONE of them!!
NONE include large amounts of liquid/hydrogenated veg oils if any at
all. The fact that those things were not even mentioned is appalling
and a total joke. Even someone so obviously blind as you should see
that simple fact. Can you seriously not get that through your head?
Are you that incompetent?? Are you so stupid that you can not come to
that simple real conclusion for yourself? Are you really unable to
take into account ALL the facts and ALL the elements of modern western
diets as well as various other diets around the world and honestly and
logically analyses and compare them. If you did you would be able to
single out elements which are most likely to be responsible for poor
health. Red meat is simply not one of them. While they got it partly
right in naming refined carbs even that is not the main distinguishing
factor of poor diets as there are some healthy peoples who do eat a
moderate amount of such things. However the fact that they left out
the true factor that STICKS OUT LIKE A [censored] SORE THUMB is absurd.
It is just as absurd for you to go along with it without even raising
a question. You need to start using your [censored] brain and think a
little harder instead of regurgitating garbage like that. You must
not just compare diets of today with each other but take into account
diet patterns of the last 100 years. As I know you understand the
"modernized" or "western" diet is always followed by poor health
within a short time of a previously traditional diet being abandoned
during the modernization of a population. The number one factor
involved in the modernization of diet are cheap manufactured
liquid/hydrogenated vegetable fats being introduced into a previously
traditional diet. It happened first in the US 100 years ago which is
why we are so far ahead of other countries in poor health. Other
countries who were modernized later in the century or have yet to be
modernized and still eat more traditional diets or did not fully
modernize their diets along with their society like Japan. Do not
take my word for it just look at this quote from the Agricultural
Utilization Research Institute about the edible oil industry.

"Worldwide vegetable oil consumption (of which soybean oil represents
28%) is growing at a faster rate than population—4.1% compared to 1.3%
compounded over the past five years. As the developing world continues
to improve its standard of living, this trend will continue. Per
capita vegetable oil consumption is a good measure of a country's
prosperity."

And there you have it. The true food of prosperity and modernization.
THAT is what the modern "western" diet is all about. That is why it
is so unhealthy. And for some strange reason it is almost never
mentioned in any talk of unhealthy modern western diets by the
mainstream medical establishment. I wonder why. hmmm. Of course that
is understandable considering the influence of certain interests.
What is not understandable is your dumb compliance and total lack of
any ability to question or think for yourself. You need a big reality
check.

It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Thanks for saving me the time to
respond to this idiot's sound and fury.

It seems that longevity is common for my mother's side of the family.
My grandfather, who was born in 1887, smoked since he was 9 years old.
He died of cancer ..... at 85 years of age. One of my uncles died at
age 91 while the other is alive and kicking at age 89. Mom is 82 ...
the baby of the family.

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:59:54 +0800, Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]>

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:41:41 -0500, "Rob Ruddy" <[email hidden]>
posted:

Quoted message said:

My great grandmother lived to age 96. She cooked with lard and used butter
and cream. Eggs and bacon were a regular item on her diet. No margarine in
that lady's diet! Oh and she loved ice cream.

Regards.

Rob

And then there is the old guy who dies at 102 who has smoked since he
was 12, and had a shot of whiskey every day since 16. Died with all
his faculties intact, being shot on the nest by a jealous husband.

Or the guy of 43 who fell off the perch from CVD from smoking and
eating too much? Biological variation comes to mind.

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Quoted message said:

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

The "Western" diet--one especially high in red and processed meats and
refined grain--linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, stroke,
colon cancer, and heart disease in women.
The report's lead author, noted that the "Western" eating pattern high
in red and processed meats, also has been linked in recent past
studies to an increased risk of stroke, colon cancer, and heart
disease.

Nutrition Professor Teresa Fung of the Simmons College School for
Health Studies, noted that with this new analysis. " we can add
diabetes to the list. I think this is another reason to shift away
from that type of diet."

The new study found that the "Western diet" high in red and processed
meats and refined grains, as opposed to a diet low in those
foodstuffs, is associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes in
women.

"Therefore," the study concluded, "it may be prudent to reduce
consumption of these foods items to decrease the risk of type 2
diabetes."

Fung says that for a long time, it was uncertain whether diet directly
affects the risk of type 2 diabetes. While it is well known that
obesity increases the risk, and diet is related to obesity, little
data was available to see if diet has any influence beyond its effect
on weight. Fung's study broke away from the traditional way of looking
at foods one at a time to see if they were related to diabetes risk,
and instead looked at an individual's entire dietary pattern.

Archives of Internal Medicine, Nov 2004

Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 18 Nov 2004 06:17:13 -0600, jt <[email hidden]> posted:

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On 17 Nov 2004 19:13:15 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)

Quoted message said:

Seriously what is your problem? Do you seriously buy into that simple
minded BS?? I will tell you what is the main characteristic of the
"western" diet moron. It is liquid polyunsaturated vegetable oils and
hydrogenated vegetable shortenings. THAT smart guy is what
distinguishes the "western" diet from other healthy traditional diets
around the world, MANY of which include red meat but NONE of them!!
NONE include large amounts of liquid/hydrogenated veg oils if any at
all. The fact that those things were not even mentioned is appalling
and a total joke. Even someone so obviously blind as you should see
that simple fact. Can you seriously not get that through your head?
Are you that incompetent?? Are you so stupid that you can not come to
that simple real conclusion for yourself? Are you really unable to
take into account ALL the facts and ALL the elements of modern western
diets as well as various other diets around the world and honestly and
logically analyses and compare them. If you did you would be able to
single out elements which are most likely to be responsible for poor
health. Red meat is simply not one of them. While they got it partly
right in naming refined carbs even that is not the main distinguishing
factor of poor diets as there are some healthy peoples who do eat a
moderate amount of such things. However the fact that they left out
the true factor that STICKS OUT LIKE A [censored] SORE THUMB is absurd.
It is just as absurd for you to go along with it without even raising
a question. You need to start using your [censored] brain and think a
little harder instead of regurgitating garbage like that. You must
not just compare diets of today with each other but take into account
diet patterns of the last 100 years. As I know you understand the
"modernized" or "western" diet is always followed by poor health
within a short time of a previously traditional diet being abandoned
during the modernization of a population. The number one factor
involved in the modernization of diet are cheap manufactured
liquid/hydrogenated vegetable fats being introduced into a previously
traditional diet. It happened first in the US 100 years ago which is
why we are so far ahead of other countries in poor health. Other
countries who were modernized later in the century or have yet to be
modernized and still eat more traditional diets or did not fully
modernize their diets along with their society like Japan. Do not
take my word for it just look at this quote from the Agricultural
Utilization Research Institute about the edible oil industry.

"Worldwide vegetable oil consumption (of which soybean oil represents
28%) is growing at a faster rate than population—4.1% compared to 1.3%
compounded over the past five years. As the developing world continues
to improve its standard of living, this trend will continue. Per
capita vegetable oil consumption is a good measure of a country's
prosperity."

And there you have it. The true food of prosperity and modernization.
THAT is what the modern "western" diet is all about. That is why it
is so unhealthy. And for some strange reason it is almost never
mentioned in any talk of unhealthy modern western diets by the
mainstream medical establishment. I wonder why. hmmm. Of course that
is understandable considering the influence of certain interests.
What is not understandable is your dumb compliance and total lack of
any ability to question or think for yourself. You need a big reality
check.

It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Thanks for saving me the time to
respond to this idiot's sound and fury.

You are so full of [censored]. A dumb [censored] like you couldnt give a rational
response even if you tried. You can not respond to the reality which
you chose to ignore. My points about diets are more valid and
relevant than any garbage you spew and there really is nothing you can
say to counter or explain away such reality so you just ignore it.
The data is there. The research is there. The facts and the evidence
are all there you are just too damn stupid to accept it.

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