Went the Day Well?

In message <[email hidden]>, KRO
<[email hidden]> writes

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Finally got digs with the SYHA on Loch Ness and after
minimal sleep, thanks to some Krauts discussing world
domination outside the door until 2am, arose at 4am and off
to Glen Affric. Started west at 5.30 in a gentle drizzle
increasing to a heavy pelt. I hummed and hahhed about the
merits of ascending Sgurr na Lapaich (No.1 in the promotion
to Munro stakes?) and decided to miss it, I actually gained
the Lapaich-Sodhail ridge after seeing the corrie headwall
to the NW of Coire Leachavie, I didn't fancy it at all.
Shortly before Mam Sodhail I stopped for photos (okay a
breather) and just managed to catch sight of my glove
zipping over the snow into the next corrie. Infuriating -
my next gloves will have a string attached between them
Primary One style.

Learnt in similar fashion some time ago but suggest it is
far easier just to have an elastic loop to slip over your
wrist, holds the glove in place without the need to thread
the gloves down sleeves.

Snip
--
Dennis Foster

KRO said:

Finally got digs with the SYHA on Loch Ness and after
minimal sleep, thanks to some Krauts discussing world
domination outside the door until 2am, arose at 4am and off
to Glen Affric.

I camped in Cannich. There used to be an indepenet
hostel there.

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Started west at 5.30 in a gentle drizzle increasing to a
heavy pelt.

Mist and autumn sunshine for me. p-t-p-t-Open ↗
cook.freeserve.co.uk/temp/affric.jpg

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I hummed and hahhed about the merits of ascending Sgurr na
Lapaich (No.1 in the promotion to Munro stakes?)

I seem to remember that there is another hill with more drop
that which puts it at No.1 in the promotion stakes. I can't
remember which though...

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and decided to miss it,

It's not too bad from the land-rover track.

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I actually gained the Lapaich-Sodhail ridge after seeing
the corrie headwall to the NW of Coire Leachavie, I didn't
fancy it at all.

Lapaich has to be easier than that or the slope you
did go up.

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Shortly before Mam Sodhail I stopped for photos (okay a
breather) and just managed to catch sight of my glove
zipping over the snow into the next corrie.

Snow? Just in the corries presumably.

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Infuriating - my next gloves will have a string attached
between them Primary One style.From the massive cairn I
traversed the western slopes of Carn Eighe to Beinn
Fhionnlaidh, a doddle I thought, but not a doddle coming
back uphill to Carn Eighe!

I remember that being a bit of a pull too.

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Then came the hard bit, the ridge out east goes over 5 tops
before the 4th Munro Tom a'Choinich. This was for me the
crux of the walk, top after top, thinking, "is this the
Munro, no - only 3km to go".

I called it a day at the Garth-bealach. Daylight was running
short, I walked from NH181257 to the roadhead in darkness in
October a few years ago.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

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The message <[email hidden]>
from Phil Cook <[email hidden]> contains
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Question for those in the know...; what would you say is
the best way to do the hills immediately to the west of
the group described, i.e An Socach, Sgurr nan
Ceathreamhan and Mullach na Dheiragain.

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I have a hankering for a round of Loch Mullardoch to
knock off a whole load in one go. I'll only have to
repeat Eighe and Mam Sodhail, but I'll have to bag two An
Socachs and another Sgurr na Lapaich. I'd have to
remember to put all of the tent in the car unlike last
time I was up in February.

Don't do what I did when I did the Mullardoch round - before
I decided I could do all the Munros this lifetime. Miss out
Beinn Fionndhlaidh (sp?)

Shame you could not do it for me by proxy - we could
do a trade.

Want to know what I am doing at home on a splendid day like
today. Suffering from a cold, that's what. And doing foolish
things like attempting to turn over the soil in the garden -
despite the ailments - and cutting through a gas pipe 10 cm
under the soil. Transco are out there right now - and that's
why I am in indoors.

--
Martin Richardson
227/284 Munros - 20% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
228/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
229/1552 Marilyns - 73% to go

"Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC), KRO wrote:

Sorry Phil this is going to be a bit disjointed, but....

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I camped in Cannich. There used to be an indepenet
hostel there.

See previous posts re accomodation, the Youth Hostel is
closed for refurbishment, the independant Affric
Hotel/Hostel wouldn't answer email/telephone and on driving
past looked closed. I noticed a backpackers hostel in
Cannich which doesn't appear too readily when you put hostel
and Cannich into a search engine! Oh and Kerrow House/hotel
wasn't interested in one person/one night seeing as they
were quoting for the week for a large group.

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Started west at 5.30 in a gentle drizzle increasing to a
heavy pelt.

Mist and autumn sunshine for me. p-t-p-t-Open ↗
cook.freeserve.co.uk/temp/affric.jpg

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I hummed and hahhed about the merits of ascending Sgurr
na Lapaich (No.1 in the promotion to Munro stakes?)

I seem to remember that there is another hill with more
drop that which puts it at No.1 in the promotion stakes. I
can't remember which though...

Have you remembered yet? I hope they don't promote any,
seeing as I've missed out Lapaich!

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I actually gained the Lapaich-Sodhail ridge after seeing
the corrie headwall to the NW of Coire Leachavie, I
didn't fancy it at all.

Lapaich has to be easier than that or the slope you
did go up.

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Shortly before Mam Sodhail I stopped for photos (okay a
breather) and just managed to catch sight of my glove
zipping over the snow into the next corrie.

Snow? Just in the corries presumably.

No, deep snow on the top quarter of the hills. You know it's
that stuff the southerners get excited about, and I'm p*ssed
off with :-)

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Infuriating - my next gloves will have a string attached
between them Primary One style.From the massive cairn I
traversed the western slopes of Carn Eighe to Beinn
Fhionnlaidh, a doddle I thought, but not a doddle coming
back uphill to Carn Eighe!

I remember that being a bit of a pull too.

Quoted message said:

Then came the hard bit, the ridge out east goes over 5
tops before the 4th Munro Tom a'Choinich. This was for me
the crux of the walk, top after top, thinking, "is this
the Munro, no - only 3km to go".

I called it a day at the Garth-bealach. Daylight was
running short, I walked from NH181257 to the roadhead in
darkness in October a few years ago.

The Garth bealach is just over half way along the ridge to
Coinich, and just before An Leth-chroag (he says, looking at
the map) I believe this may have been my "What the f*** do
you mean, this isn't the f****** M*nro" moment.....

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--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster
Gasworks"

That is some driving, I take my hat off to you, without fear
of it disappearing into the next corrie :-)

Question for those in the know...; what would you say is the
best way to do the hills immediately to the west of the
group described, i.e An Socach, Sgurr nan Ceathreamhan and
Mullach na Dheiragain.

KRO

KRO said:

"Phil Cook" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:14:04 +0000 (UTC), KRO wrote:

Sorry Phil this is going to be a bit disjointed, but....

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I camped in Cannich. There used to be an indepenet
hostel there.

See previous posts re accomodation, the Youth Hostel is
closed for refurbishment, the independant Affric
Hotel/Hostel wouldn't answer email/telephone and on driving
past looked closed. I noticed a backpackers hostel in
Cannich which doesn't appear too readily when you put
hostel and Cannich into a search engine! Oh and Kerrow
House/hotel wasn't interested in one person/one night
seeing as they were quoting for the week for a large group.

Ah. I remember now.

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Started west at 5.30 in a gentle drizzle increasing to a
heavy pelt.

Mist and autumn sunshine for me. p-t-p-t-Open ↗
cook.freeserve.co.uk/temp/affric.jpg

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I hummed and hahhed about the merits of ascending Sgurr
na Lapaich (No.1 in the promotion to Munro stakes?)

I seem to remember that there is another hill with more
drop that which puts it at No.1 in the promotion stakes.
I can't remember which though...

Have you remembered yet? I hope they don't promote any,
seeing as I've missed out Lapaich!

I couldn't remember but google is my mate and he knows...

Mark Bull wrote in here a while back:

Sgurr na Lapaich is a good candidate for promotion, but
interestingly, if one considers the amount of reascent as
the criterion, it is only eighth in line. It has 106 metres
of reascent, putting it behind Stob na Doire (144m) - the
top that should have been promoted on BEM instead of Stob na
Broige. Glas Leathad Beag (132m) - NE top of Ben Wyvis Stob
Cadha Gobhlach (127m) - An Teallach Sgor Choinnich (125m) -
a top to add one to the round of Loch Ossian Sgurr nan Fhir
Duibhe (118m) - E top of Beinn Eighe Stob Coire nan Lochan
(116m) - Glen Coe Sail Mhor (116m) - W top of Beinn Eighe

(My added descriptions)

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Snow? Just in the corries presumably.

No, deep snow on the top quarter of the hills. You know
it's that stuff the southerners get excited about, and I'm
p*ssed off with :-)

So I should sling my axe and spikes in the back of the car
for next week just in case?

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I called it a day at the Garth-bealach.

The Garth bealach is just over half way along the ridge to
Coinich, and just before An Leth-chroag (he says, looking
at the map) I believe this may have been my "What the f***
do you mean, this isn't the f****** M*nro" moment.....

I remember it looking rather lumpy.

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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster
Gasworks"

That is some driving, I take my hat off to you.

I was glad to keep my baseball cap on today driving along
with the sunroof open.

Munro bagging is done in one or two week bursts for me.
Parents in Sheffield and a brother in Manchester make handy
stop offs.

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Question for those in the know...; what would you say is
the best way to do the hills immediately to the west of the
group described, i.e An Socach, Sgurr nan Ceathreamhan and
Mullach na Dheiragain.

I have a hankering for a round of Loch Mullardoch to knock
off a whole load in one go. I'll only have to repeat Eighe
and Mam Sodhail, but I'll have to bag two An Socachs and
another Sgurr na Lapaich. I'd have to remember to put all of
the tent in the car unlike last time I was up in February.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

The message <[email hidden]>
from Phil Cook <[email hidden]> contains
these words:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Question for those in the know...; what would you say is
the best way to do the hills immediately to the west of
the group described, i.e An Socach, Sgurr nan
Ceathreamhan and Mullach na Dheiragain.

Quoted message said:

I have a hankering for a round of Loch Mullardoch to knock
off a whole load in one go. I'll only have to repeat Eighe
and Mam Sodhail, but I'll have to bag two An Socachs and
another Sgurr na Lapaich. I'd have to remember to put all
of the tent in the car unlike last time I was up in
February.

That is the way I did them back in 1976. Took me 2 and a
half days. The first day included the drive north from
Stafford. (Several of the off route tops including the
southerly Sgurr na Lapaich were not visited so heaven help
the SMC if they include that peak in another of their
gerrymandering fundraisers.)

Coming off the North end of Mullach na Dheiragain in thick
mist at the end of the second day I abandoned a perfectly
good stalkers track for a direct descent because the 1" told
me I was getting east of the west end of Loch Mulladoch only
to find when I dipped below cloud level that I was still to
the West. It took me some time to prove to myself that it
was the map that was at fault. According to the map my camp
that night was well out in the loch. The discrepancy between
the 1" and the 2nd series 1:50000 is about 700 metres.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 27 summits New - 16 (Marilyns
4, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 11) Repeats - 11( Marilyns 2,
Sweats 6, Wainwrights 11) Knackered knee - 3 times

Martin Richardson said:

Want to know what I am doing at home on a splendid day
like today.

I'm here in London waiting for my insurance documents to
arrive so I can tax my new car :-(
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

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I seem to remember that there is another hill with more
drop that which puts it at No.1 in the promotion stakes. I
can't remember which though...

Drop has nothing to do with Munros... That's "Murdos"

Sgurr na Lapaich was a mysterious demotion in the 1920's and
I am pretty sure I know why it did not come back again in
1997, but that objection is over IIRC.

Promoting hills caused so much bother last time, I doubt
they would do it again.

Its a goodie, witha fine walk to Mam Sodhail along a very
long ridge. I returned via An Tudair, which is an
interesting descent, interesting as in the Chinese curse.

Richard Webb

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See previous posts re accomodation, the Youth Hostel is
closed for refurbishment, the independant Affric
Hotel/Hostel wouldn't answer email/telephone and on driving
past looked closed. I noticed a backpackers hostel in
Cannich which doesn't appear too readily when you put
hostel and Cannich into a search engine!

Its there, by the SYHA place and its good.. but as you say
hard to pin down. I really like the place.

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Have you remembered yet? I hope they don't promote any,
seeing as I've missed out Lapaich!

Its still there....

Quoted message said:

Question for those in the know...; what would you say is
the best way to do the hills immediately to the west of the
group described, i.e An Socach, Sgurr nan Ceathreamhan and
Mullach na Dheiragain.

In several trips

The trick for a single visit to the three of the four main
tops mentioned is that you can cut back under the top of
Ceathreamhnan from the Dheirigain ridge to the bealach above
the hostel. Often traverses dodging hills dont work, this
dodge does.

I did Socach and Ceathreamhnan from the hostel Ceathreamnan
and Gaorsaic walking out to Kintail from the hostel, and MnD
on its own from the north on a backpack walking out to
Cluanie. Be warned Northern approaches have a river which I
fell into. The river has since made a recovery.

Single ticket, up the path behind Alltbeithe, Socach,
Ceathnreamnan out out out to Gheirigain and back back back
to the last col before the slog back up the big hill, cut
back through the corrie to the top of the path and back down
for a nice cuppa.

Richard Webb

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Don't do what I did when I did the Mullardoch round -
before I decided I could do all the Munros this lifetime.
Miss out Beinn Fionndhlaidh (sp?)

I left that one off.. When I went back it was a near 60 mile
trip (pre car so big walk ins were normal) Ceanacroc to
Dornie. Mind I did chuck in a couple of Corbetts.

Its an awkward sod, the logisticds of which have featured in
a novel by Sir Fred Hoyle. I knew all about it long before
taking up Scottish hillbashing

Richard Webb