Welcome back Flyer

Even a third grade kid with ZERO experience at the Gym knows that Lance Pharmstromg is a blood doping, anabolic steroid & cortisone-based creation---who tells lots of fibs when a TV light is turned on.

The only need for expert here is to diagnose the illness that is doping apology. Then recommend a treatment for their profound denial. De-Nile miles longer than any river in Africa.

Lance Armstrong (corticosteroids, EPO, Actovegin, insulin, tubes, plasma bags, swabs, spent syringes, medical waste etc..drug busted physician)

Frankie Andreu (confessed anti-anemia doper EPO)

Stephen Swartz (confessed EPO doper and claims it was Lance's brilliant idea at Motorola)

Roberto Heras (EPO busted)

Tyler Hamilton (Spinners gone wrong, centrifuse not clean)

Floyd Landis, Jack Daniels drinking Medicated Mennonite. (testosterone)

Benoit Joachim (Deca Durbloin) Publicly fired by USPO in October 2000---then quietly rehired in time for the 2001 TDF after the suspension was reduced to a retro active 6 months.

Manuel Beltran (EPO & corticosteroid tainted from the 1999 TDF) TUE got him off too. A post Festina drug disappearance policy---NO DOPING IN 1999.

Pavel Padrnos (arrested May 2001 in San Remo Giro police raid in possession of insulin, hGH, EPO and testosterone)

Michele Ferrari, MD (actually convicted of illegal pharmacy and sporting fraud in October 2004)

Whistleblowers:
Emma O'Reilly
Stephen Swartz
Mike Anderson
Prentice Steffen, MD
Greg Lemond
Christophe Bassons
Filippo Simeoni
Betsy Andreu

No expert needed. Lance is a confrimed Nike drug cheat!

Yah know, I remember why I found you so annoying back in the day. The fact that most of what you say is true is neither here nor there, just when you're around no one can talk about ANYTHING without you posting a drugs related post. Doesn't matter what the thread title is, you're straight in there posting the same stuff again, and again, and again. Gets boring after a while.

Eldrack said:

Yah know, I remember why I found you so annoying back in the day. The fact that most of what you say is true is neither here nor there, just when you're around no one can talk about ANYTHING without you posting a drugs related post. Doesn't matter what the thread title is, you're straight in there posting the same stuff again, and again, and again. Gets boring after a while.

Yeah, but it's been so slow lately. Really, this is the most action the board has had in a month. At least. I didn't know him when I was here, but, hell yeah, welcome back.

This might even wake Martin Jackson from his slumber.

Flyer's.Finale! said:

Even a third grade kid with ZERO experience at the Gym knows that Lance Pharmstromg is a blood doping, anabolic steroid & cortisone-based creation---who tells lots of fibs when a TV light is turned on.

The only need for expert here is to diagnose the illness that is doping apology. Then recommend a treatment for their profound denial. De-Nile miles longer than any river in Africa.

Lance Armstrong (corticosteroids, EPO, Actovegin, insulin, tubes, plasma bags, swabs, spent syringes, medical waste etc..drug busted physician)

Frankie Andreu (confessed anti-anemia doper EPO)

Stephen Swartz (confessed EPO doper and claims it was Lance's brilliant idea at Motorola)

Roberto Heras (EPO busted)

Tyler Hamilton (Spinners gone wrong, centrifuse not clean)

Floyd Landis, Jack Daniels drinking Medicated Mennonite. (testosterone)

Benoit Joachim (Deca Durbloin) Publicly fired by USPO in October 2000---then quietly rehired in time for the 2001 TDF after the suspension was reduced to a retro active 6 months.

Manuel Beltran (EPO & corticosteroid tainted from the 1999 TDF) TUE got him off too. A post Festina drug disappearance policy---NO DOPING IN 1999.

Pavel Padrnos (arrested May 2001 in San Remo Giro police raid in possession of insulin, hGH, EPO and testosterone)

Michele Ferrari, MD (actually convicted of illegal pharmacy and sporting fraud in October 2004)

Whistleblowers:
Emma O'Reilly
Stephen Swartz
Mike Anderson
Prentice Steffen, MD
Greg Lemond
Christophe Bassons
Filippo Simeoni
Betsy Andreu

No expert needed. Lance is a confrimed Nike drug cheat!

Steady on,old boy!
Just because every single person LA ever came into contact with in his entire career is a doper...doesn't necessarily make him one!
On the other hand,Martin Jackson's evidence is pretty persuasive.

helmutRoole2 said:

Yeah, but it's been so slow lately. Really, this is the most action the board has had in a month. At least. I didn't know him when I was here, but, hell yeah, welcome back.

This might even wake Martin Jackson from his slumber.

I'm back! And I'm [censored]. Who is the Flyer [censored] and why is he running down my boy Lance?

Eldrack said:

Yah know, I remember why I found you so annoying back in the day. The fact that most of what you say is true is neither here nor there, just when you're around no one can talk about ANYTHING without you posting a drugs related post. Doesn't matter what the thread title is, you're straight in there posting the same stuff again, and again, and again. Gets boring after a while.

Yeah, I think that's why the original Flyer (don't know if this is really the same guy) was ultimately banned. he turned every thread having to do with pro cycling turned into a doping thread. The moderators and a lot of forum members just got sick of it I think.

Edit: An odd observation. I hadn't seen Beastt around in an awful long time. Beastt and Flyer were "arch-rivals". Suddenly "Flyer" shows up and simultaneously over in the Bike Cafe we see a post from Beastt. Coincidence?

Flyer's.Finale! said:

Even a third grade kid with ZERO experience at the Gym knows that Lance Pharmstromg is a blood doping, anabolic steroid & cortisone-based creation---who tells lots of fibs when a TV light is turned on.

The only need for expert here is to diagnose the illness that is doping apology. Then recommend a treatment for their profound denial. De-Nile miles longer than any river in Africa.

Lance Armstrong (corticosteroids, EPO, Actovegin, insulin, tubes, plasma bags, swabs, spent syringes, medical waste etc..drug busted physician)

Frankie Andreu (confessed anti-anemia doper EPO)

Stephen Swartz (confessed EPO doper and claims it was Lance's brilliant idea at Motorola)

Roberto Heras (EPO busted)

Tyler Hamilton (Spinners gone wrong, centrifuse not clean)

Floyd Landis, Jack Daniels drinking Medicated Mennonite. (testosterone)

Benoit Joachim (Deca Durbloin) Publicly fired by USPO in October 2000---then quietly rehired in time for the 2001 TDF after the suspension was reduced to a retro active 6 months.

Manuel Beltran (EPO & corticosteroid tainted from the 1999 TDF) TUE got him off too. A post Festina drug disappearance policy---NO DOPING IN 1999.

Pavel Padrnos (arrested May 2001 in San Remo Giro police raid in possession of insulin, hGH, EPO and testosterone)

Michele Ferrari, MD (actually convicted of illegal pharmacy and sporting fraud in October 2004)

Whistleblowers:
Emma O'Reilly
Stephen Swartz
Mike Anderson
Prentice Steffen, MD
Greg Lemond
Christophe Bassons
Filippo Simeoni
Betsy Andreu

No expert needed. Lance is a confrimed Nike drug cheat!

Welcome back.

More myths and falsehoods:

Lance Armstrong's superior work ethic (Patently False as his contractual corporate appearances stole training time that lesser riders had)

Lance is clean (he is the leader of a doped team)

Lance's physician Michele Ferrari was found innocent on appeal (false, the statute of limitation expired on his old crimes--so they dropped his fines)

Lance won his lawsuit with The London Times & David Wlash. Flase--he settled in a secret deal (he may of paid THEM money) then he declared victory. That is what Nike drug cheats always do--declare victories.

Flyer was banned due to exceeive drug postings: Patently false. A seperate thread was established for Doping related posts (see doping link) You people morphed the doping posts back to Grand Tours. (btw: I concur)

Flyer was banned because he threraten to murder another poster: Patently false. Never happened. Jealous lies by doper apologists seeking to discredit him. As if an anti-doper would murder his medicated or naive enemies.

TRUTH: Flyer was banned because he wrote about Australian doping subsidies. And that was the end of flyer.

Do you own homework on the land down under. You'll be as stunned as in the Operation Puerto, Festina/TVM and PDM scandals.

In the end--illegal doping is here to stay in elite level competiton and so it rightly belongs on ALL athletic threads. Just as tactics and tyre pressure do.

Peptide hormones, Salbutamol, testosterone, EPO, hGH. eGH, IGF, cortisone and amphetamines are inextricably linked with cycling. Accept them as you do the lies and denials.

Flyer had more friends than enemies. His enemies were angry fools.

The last two years proved that Flyer was 100% correct and that his enemies were cowardly drug cheat advocates.

So... are "Flyer's.Finale" and Flyer one and the same?

Certainly seems the same...

(Why not "Flyer's Encore"? Flyer's Finale would suggest a certain finality.)

Tyler has a twin. (Howard Jacobs said so)

Floyd is innocent (his pal Arnie Baker said so) but minus a father-in-law (suicide)

Flyer had a large family. And he was very tenacious.

Don Shipp said:

So... are "Flyer's.Finale" and Flyer one and the same?

Certainly seems the same...

(Why not "Flyer's Encore"? Flyer's Finale would suggest a certain finality.)

No,they are not. At least according to Flyer they are not, but I did let him know that someone was taking his name in vain.
We have an imposter!

This is not Flyer...... His posts are not even close to the same...... I have recently been in contact with Flyer asking him permission to use a quote of his.......
This guy is an imposter.

Flyer's.Finale! said:

Flyer was banned due to exceeive drug postings: Patently false. A seperate thread was established for Doping related posts (see doping link) You people morphed the doping posts back to Grand Tours. (btw: I concur)

That might not be why Flyer was banned but I've been around the forum for a long time including the entire Flyer run. And let me tell you, there were a lot of people on this forum who were very tired of his repetetive doping banter. That's a fact. Hell, I agreed with him most of the time and I was tired of it! I don't know where you get your "he had more friends than he had enemies" idea. Might be true I suppose.

His PMs validated that remark.

Meehs would be surprised to know that Flyer wrote what others were afraid to.

Much like Sir Thomas More. Flyer wrote the truth.

And the truth is dangerous to deceptive-based enterprises. Media marketing and sport event promotion depends on myths, lies, deceptions, fixes, programming, doping and denial.

If this imposter continues to post, I will be done....... I don't mind posts going off topic, I can even tolerate the "Discovery is dirty"that individuals attempt to bring to every post, but endless cut and paste posts get boring.....
We don't need reminded that the sport is dirty. Everyone had to know that after discovering the sport.......
The sport has so much more to offer

I just went the site .....raceclean.nutcase..... This guy has a problem. Even if he is right all the time, he has a problem. He needs to get out and ride his bike.

Maybe he is just resting from racing?
Grand Tours have more to offer than doping?

What? Name one thing more relevant to racing at 43 kph for 21 days?
Flat tyres?
Crashing?
Empty denials by addicts?
Silly Phil Liggett Lance Pharmstrong mythical and revisionist balony?
Eurosport hiding the Epostal road markings?
OLN editing out the USPO spitting on Simeoni?
OLN editing out the Super-sized syringes running in tempo with Lance?

Doping & Grand Tours go hand in hand, syringe to IV feed to plasma bag.

Bah bye wolfie. Magoo says ciao as well!

It's Flyer.....

The Greg Lemond pro-steroid anti-anti-anemia version.

Peace in the valley. The valley of Cancer therapies for profit and TV ratings.

For MLB baseball old school doping go here:
thesteroidera.blogspot.comthesteroidera.blogspot.comOpen ↗

sfgate.combalcoOpen ↗

In American sports (NFL, MLB, NBA, track) only Tammy Thomas was indicted.

Now that's a cool steroids cover up. First class!

Take that Operation Puerto!

Flyer's.Finale! said:

Meehs would be surprised to know that Flyer wrote what others were afraid to.

I know what you mean. And no, I'm not surprised. But I'm not sure if others were really afraid to write it or if they were (and in many cases still are) just in denial. In any case, point taken.