weird pro-carb scare ad

Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

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I found this statement (from http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a
year
or more.

Here's one right here!!! 🙂
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ClabberHead 5.0 (aka Iron Chef Atkins)
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"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

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I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)

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interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less

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than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight

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loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year

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or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.

I've only been low-carbing since April, and I've only lost 26 pounds so far.

I'll get back with ya next April

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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from

http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)

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interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with

less

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than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a

weight

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loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a

year

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or more.

I lost 30lbs on Atkins and kept it off for 3 years, then gained weight
during my 2 pregnancies. i've already lost 22lbs of it and have only been
back on LC since July!

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Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.

"Daniel Hoffmeister" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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While watching the news early this morning, I caught this
weird 'public
service announcement'.

Woman driving in a car, ominous voice over starts out "In the
headlong
rush to lose weight..." and goes on to tell us of the health
risks of
cutting out "essential carbohydrates": high blood pressure,
heart disease,
and (pause for effect...) cancer.

I caught the Web site, it's the Partnership for Essential
Nutrition:
http://www.essentialnutrition.org/
I remember seeing something about this outfit earlier in the
summer.
There is some big money behind it and it was founded by Shape
Up America.

As usual, it creates a strawman diet in which people are
"eating unlimited
amounts of meat and fat".

Typical drivel from those that don't take time to research that
which they
talk about. Makes everything they say suspect.

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From http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php

"The United States is in the midst of a skyrocketing obesity
epidemic.
Today, more than 60 percent of American adults are overweight
or obese,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC), and
many are investing in diet books, such as those promising
rapid weight
loss in a matter of weeks by greatly restricting the intake of
carbohydrates while eating unlimited amounts of meat and fat."

See above comment....

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But, wait! That's not all! They can have it both ways,
because "... the
prime reason that low-carbohydrate diets work at all is that
people on
these plans consume fewer calories than the body needs, which
is the same
principle used by every other diet." All this while eating
those
unlimited amounts of meat and fat. Pretty good trick!

Flawed research and knowledge....

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There's a lot of "according to scientists" and "according to
doctors and
nutritionists" and "numerous studies have shown" (all
unspecified) strewn
throughout, something that always makes me suspicious.

The fits right in with "as everyone knows", "it's common
knowledge",
"it's obvious". Through out some generalities that can not be
pinned
down to make a point when you have no real info.

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One thing they do have right, though -- their survey showed
that the
average American is woefully uninformed about what
carbohydrates are and
which foods contain them.

True...

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On a side note, in this context I find it interesting that my
maintenance
level will probably be around 90-100g of carbs a day (a mere
25% reduction
in the recommended 130g per day).

I'm just slightly lower to maintain by BG Levels with Type 2
Diabetes.
They need to get educated to the idea that "Low Carb" does not
mean "No Carb".

BJ
232/182/182 reached goal 18months ago
Ha1c 5.0 for the last 2 years

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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from
http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in
the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who
had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a
diet with less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6
Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry,
the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not
offer a weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with
long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first
place). "

Flawed Research -- Examining the National Weight Control
Registry to determine
effectiveness of a diet -- give me a break....

BJ

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I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27
people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight
loss for a year
or more.

Also, 24% calories from carbs might be considered a low-carb
by those in
maintainence since the standard recommendations are typically
over 50%.

The nonsense will never cease.

It's also ridiculous. It says a person should eat no more than 2 grams of
protein per kilogram of body weight. At 236 that means I could eat up to
214 grams of protein. That's about twice what I usually eat. At 150 you
could eat 136 grams, my average per Fitday is 111, average calories 1807.
And from what other people say about what they eat I think I am probably
higher in protein consumption than most. I don't think many people eat that
high a level of protein.

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Ignoramus26161 <[email hidden]> stated
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| I read the actual article, it is as dishonest as it gets.
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| They try to scare us about kidney damage on a "high protein" diet,
| referring to some study: The American Kidney Fund: American Kidney
| Fund Warns About Impact of High-Protein Diets on Kidney Health
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| Of course, LC is not the same as high protein, but that study
| http://www.charitywire.com/charity13/02794.html actually refers to
| feeding athletes "powerbars".
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| Are powerbars LC? Our friend JC der Koenig would disagree, for sure...
|
| i

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Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:

[...]

I found this statement (from http://www.essentialnutrition.org/lowcarb.php)
interesting:

"An analysis of the diets of 2,681 people who are listed in the National
Weight Control Registry found that fewer than 1 percent who had maintained
at least a 30-pound weight loss for a year or more followed a diet with less
than 24 percent of the daily calories from carbohydrates.6 Because so few
dieters following the Atkins plan were found in the registry, the
researchers concluded that very low-carbohydrate diets do not offer a weight
loss advantage over the long term (because only dieters with long term
weight loss are admitted into the Registry in the first place). "

No real researcher would take the contents of some registry as empirical evidence.

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I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

I have lost 72.5 pounds in the past year and am still losing weight.

Ignoramus26161 said:

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I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people right
here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

Maybe these people should sign up for the national weight control
registry then, and tell those "researchers" how they lost.

I already did.

I lost weight on a moderate carb diet (150 grams of carbs, or 25% of
calories), but am now maintaining on a low carb diet, which I love,
because I like eating fat.

i

Several have reported that they tried, but gave it up because the
questions they had to answer were so strongly slanted against low-carb
they couldn't answer and therefore their responses would be
discounted.

Aramanth

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I'd be willing to bet money that one could find more than 27 people

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here in this newsgroup who have maintained a 30-pound weight loss for a year
or more.

Count me in.......I've been at goal weight for much longer than a
year. Maintenance wasn't easy at first, but it was workable. And very
much worth the effort.

Duffy
182-122
size 16-6
since 12-01-01