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  1. Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?

    I can bench press 110kg for 10 reps and squat about 120 kg for ten. Has
    anyone won any competitions with a bigger physique like mine? I way in at
    16 stone 10lb's and I am 6 feet 2. Could someone like me get above
    Category 4 do you reckon or do you think no way with all that upper body
    muscle mass? I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so much
    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend me? Any
    URL's on this subject anyone knows of?

    Much appreciate any opinions.

    KM

  2. Katanga-Man <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?

    Try track sprinting.

    Some riders:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/may04/WTC04/?id=day2/img_3100chris_hoy
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/may04/WTC04/?id=day4/img_4591

    Otherwise, work on your sprint and do flat road races.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org
    "Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
    - Paulina Borsook

  3. Katanga-Man said:

    Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?
    I can bench press 110kg for 10 reps and squat about 120 kg for ten. Has
    anyone won any competitions with a bigger physique like mine? I way in
    at 16 stone 10lb's and I am 6 feet 2. Could someone like me get above
    Category 4 do you reckon or do you think no way with all that upper body
    muscle mass? I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so much
    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend me?
    Any URL's on this subject anyone knows of?
    Much appreciate any opinions.
    KM

    I'm just starting on the weights again after marathon training. I'
    still cycling 150+ miles a week (mainly commuting, but can squat quite
    bit (I don't want to turn this into a p*ssing contest) I hate to tel
    you this but your not huge in the weight training sense, even thgou
    you're a lot bigger than most cyclists (I'm 5' 8" 14 stone 5lbs). Th
    important thing is to keep getting the miles in, and make sure you don'
    neglect the aerobic training in preference to the weights. If you reall
    wnat to keep liftng heavy then sprinting is for you (try track riding
    over in a few seconds) and don't even think of a TT :-), as long as yo
    can keep in a bunch you should be able to outsprint most people (I see
    to rememebr Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wasn't exactly a small bloke
    However if you want to get good at distance cycling, you'll end uplosin
    the mass as you won't have time to lift any more :-

    Brya

    -

  4. Thanks for your opinions. I don't really want to be huge anyway but want to
    keep some chest, shoulders and arms muscularity as I get better at cycling.
    Maybe I'll lose some of it but that's fine as long as I get better aerobic
    fitness in return.

    What would you recommend as a good weighttraining/cycling split routine? I
    have recently dropped to doing upper body one once a week and can still
    maintain my strength. I have been doing a lot more squat/leg work.
    KM (aka Steve)

    "Bryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Katanga-Man said:

    Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?
    I can bench press 110kg for 10 reps and squat about 120 kg for ten.


    Has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyone won any competitions with a bigger physique like mine? I way in
    at 16 stone 10lb's and I am 6 feet 2. Could someone like me get above
    Category 4 do you reckon or do you think no way with all that upper


    body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    muscle mass? I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend me?
    Any URL's on this subject anyone knows of?
    Much appreciate any opinions.
    KM

    I'm just starting on the weights again after marathon training. I'm
    still cycling 150+ miles a week (mainly commuting, but can squat quite a
    bit (I don't want to turn this into a p*ssing contest) I hate to tell
    you this but your not huge in the weight training sense, even thgouh
    you're a lot bigger than most cyclists (I'm 5' 8" 14 stone 5lbs). The
    important thing is to keep getting the miles in, and make sure you don't
    neglect the aerobic training in preference to the weights. If you really
    wnat to keep liftng heavy then sprinting is for you (try track riding,
    over in a few seconds) and don't even think of a TT :-), as long as you
    can keep in a bunch you should be able to outsprint most people (I seem
    to rememebr Djamolidine Abdoujaparov wasn't exactly a small bloke)
    However if you want to get good at distance cycling, you'll end uplosing
    the mass as you won't have time to lift any more :-(

    Bryan

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  5. Katanga-Man said:


    What would you recommend as a good weighttraining/cycling split routine? I
    have recently dropped to doing upper body one once a week and can still
    maintain my strength. I have been doing a lot more squat/leg work.
    KM (aka Steve)

    Buy the book The Lance Armstrong Performance Program which has lots of
    cycle specific weights exercises. I guess Joe Friel's Cyclist's Training
    Bible has a lot of weight training advice too - his Triathlete's Training
    Bible does.

    Good luck.

    --
    Michael MacClancy
    Random putdown - "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's
    nothing trivial." - Irvin S. Cobb
    www.macclancy.demon.co.uk
    www.macclancy.co.uk

  6. "Katanga-Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?

    I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so much
    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend me?


    Any

    Quoted message said:

    URL's on this subject anyone knows of?

    Much appreciate any opinions.

    You are probably dragging >20kgs <1> more than a good racing cyclist of
    your height up every hill, seems like hard work to me chap :-)
    <1> 21/2 buckets of water! Phew!
    --
    Regards,
    Pete

  7. Peter B said:


    "Katanga-Man" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?

    I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so much
    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend me?


    Any

    Quoted message said:

    URL's on this subject anyone knows of?

    Much appreciate any opinions.

    You are probably dragging >20kgs <1> more than a good racing cyclist of
    your height up every hill, seems like hard work to me chap :-)
    <1> 21/2 buckets of water! Phew!

    I know I am. At 5'6" (1.65m) and 90 kg I am about 20kg heaver than the usual
    whippet. But the trick is to practise. Seek out the hills. Fight them till
    they give in. Now I drop much lighter, nominally faster, people on hills by
    having good climbing technique (well, I have a lot of practise).

    The other good thing about riding hills is it burns the weight off.

    ...d

  8. Katanga-Man said:

    Thanks for your opinions. I don't really want to be huge anyway but want
    to keep some chest, shoulders and arms muscularity as I get better at
    cycling. Maybe I'll lose some of it but that's fine as long as I get
    better aerobic fitness in return.
    What would you recommend as a good weighttraining/cycling split routine?
    I have recently dropped to doing upper body one once a week and can
    still maintain my strength. I have been doing a lot more squat/leg work.
    KM (aka Steve)
    "Bryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jX1wc.207-
    [email hidden]:[email hidden]-
    rver.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Katanga-Man said:

    Anyone here a cyclist and a serious weightrainer/bodybuilder too?
    I can bench press 110kg for 10 reps and squat about 120 kg for
    ten.


    Has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyone won any competitions with a bigger physique like mine? I
    way in at 16 stone 10lb's and I am 6 feet
    2. Could someone like me get above Category 4 do you reckon or do
    you think no way with all that upper


    body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    muscle mass? I struggle with hills sometimes I must admit - not so


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    steep short ones but long gradual ones. What tips can anyone lend
    me? Any URL's on this subject anyone knows of? Much appreciate any
    opinions. KM

    I'm just starting on the weights again after marathon training. I'm
    still cycling 150+ miles a week (mainly commuting, but can squat quite
    a bit (I don't want to turn this into a p*ssing contest) I hate to
    tell you this but your not huge in the weight training sense, even
    thgouh you're a lot bigger than most cyclists (I'm 5' 8" 14 stone
    5lbs). The important thing is to keep getting the miles in, and make
    sure you don't neglect the aerobic training in preference to the
    weights. If you really wnat to keep liftng heavy then sprinting is for
    you (try track riding, over in a few seconds) and don't even think of
    a TT :-), as long as you can keep in a bunch you should be able to
    outsprint most people (I seem to rememebr Djamolidine Abdoujaparov
    wasn't exactly a small bloke) However if you want to get good at
    distance cycling, you'll end uplosing the mass as you won't have time
    to lift any more :-(

    Bryan

    --

    It really depends on what you want to do. I virtually stopped doing an
    weights when I was marathon training, and now regret it, when I star
    training for the next one I won't :-) cycling doesn#t work the uppe
    body significantly, the way lifting does, so you should not suffer fro
    over training. Personally I prefer sticking to compunfd exercises anywa
    (becnh, pull ups and dips), rather than isolation exercises, and fee
    that hese give a much nbetter balance. Even when trying to improve m
    lifting I only tend to train 2 times a week. As for legs I can testif
    that trying to cycle to work 25 miles the day after a heavy sqau
    session isn't much fun :-) Again with legs I tend to go for compoun
    exercises, but do sets of 20 rather than 10 (you have to knock th
    weight down to do them properly, and they HURT). Make sure that you d
    full squats (hips level with knees) this will also mean you have t
    droip the weight initially, but you work the whole length of the muscle
    and this really helps when on the drops! As well as squats, d
    deadlifts! I seem to remember reading in a weight training book som
    time ago about an Aussie sprinter who squated over twice his body weigh
    for sets, so both you and I have some way to go yet :-

    I'm never going to make a racing cyuclist, but I'm content with catchin
    up with most people I see on my ride to work, and I only get overtake
    by a few very fast roadies. I just do too many different things, rugb
    season starts in 3 months, so I've got to get stronger for that, the
    marathon training starts a month after that, so anything after Octobe
    will be maintainence only.

    Just rememer to enjoy what you do, get a hrm, if you want to check on
    your aerobic performace (and use it properly), and listen to your body,
    and stop when it says to.

    Bryan

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