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  1. I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have done
    both of these in the past, just not at the same time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of
    these programs, but am confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you
    combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey

  2. Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    done both of these in the past, just not at the


    same

    Quoted message said:

    time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs, but


    am

    Quoted message said:

    confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey

  3. we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u follow
    atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the
    infor u need there
    angie
    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    done both of these in the past, just not at the


    same

    Quoted message said:

    time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs, but


    am

    Quoted message said:

    confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey

  4. "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more of the meats and nuts and
    things that were higher in fat, that you can have on the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of
    points, but like you said I guess just eat it and count the points.

    Thanks,

    B-Worthey

  5. I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you eliminated. I wouldn't think that
    would be very healthy.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u follow atkins or want to check
    out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    done both of these in the past, just not at the


    same

    Quoted message said:

    time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    am

    Quoted message said:

    confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey


  6. I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    guideline.

    I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    touted as an "all the fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for your
    buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies a day and be technically on
    programme. I am eating few enough calories to lose weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough
    nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins
    suggests in the books, particularly if you're going to count points at the same time.

    Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I could do for life. If you find
    Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try a lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests)
    diet and switch from white breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a
    minimum. I think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm not a dietician,
    nor do I play one on TV. 😉

    Cheers, Petal

    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    done both of these in the past, just not at the


    same

    Quoted message said:

    time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    am

    Quoted message said:

    confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey


  7. "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the meats and nuts and things that were higher in fat, that you can have


    on

    Quoted message said:

    the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of points, but like you said


    I

    Quoted message said:

    guess just eat it and count the points.

    Thanks,


    Another way of looking at it is to just lower or eliminate your carbs while you increase your
    protein. No where does it advocate eating all the fat that Atkins does. So instead of bread, pasta
    and potatoes, eat more meat chicken or fish with lots of veggies. You can do low carb without really
    doing atkins while following the WW principals.

  8. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    B-Worthey

  9. if you follow atkins in the first phase you are not allowed to have nuts or
    fruits or any of the high fat things except cheese salads salad vegetables,
    heavey cream and other things if you want more info go to www.atkins.com
    it's outlined there for you.
    angie
    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the meats and nuts and things that were higher in fat, that you can have


    on

    Quoted message said:

    the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of points, but like you said


    I

    Quoted message said:

    guess just eat it and count the points.

    Thanks,

    B-Worthey

  10. you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese you
    can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com
    angie
    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u


    follow

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the infor u need there
    angie "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and


    Weight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not at


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same

    Quoted message said:

    time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    am

    Quoted message said:

    confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey


  11. "Petal" <mrsdoyles_teapot@#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    guideline.

    I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    touted as an "all the fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for your
    buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies a day and be technically
    on programme. I am eating few enough calories to


    lose

    Quoted message said:

    weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you
    take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're going
    to count points at the same time.

    Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I could do for life. If you
    find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try a lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins
    suggests) diet and switch from white breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake
    to a minimum.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm not


    a

    Quoted message said:

    dietician, nor do I play one on TV. 😉

    This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the RIGHT kind of carbs. And as
    many have pointed out, no program is going to work if you have to give up things that you love.
    Don't make changes to your diet that you can't make for the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet
    while WW is a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a
    healthy way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have
    eggs instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch. Skip
    the potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for dinner. How hard is that? My
    carbs these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch. Higher protein than most
    cereals and my skinny cow or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is very
    balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I am now
    doing WW instead of Atkins.

  12. "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iekJb.583671$0v4.23218881@bgtnsc04-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus women need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly
    you can't get the same amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.

  13. I have also read that too much cheese can cause you to plateau while on Atkins.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese


    you

    Quoted message said:

    can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com angie "Laura" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u


    follow

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and


    Weight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not at


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same
    > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these


    programs,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but

    Quoted message said:

    am
    > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you

    Quoted message said:

    > combining?
    >
    > Hope someone can help me!
    >
    > B-Worthey
    >
    >


  14. Gotta say, I actually DID atkins lots of times, and always ended up fatter than when I started some
    6 months after I got sick of it. Did WW lots of times too, and usually gained back some, but never
    all, resulting in my 20 year long project to now, at goal. Flex in my opinion is the All Time Best
    Diet ever created. Eat what you like and what feels good, go for healthy stuff as much as possible,
    try new things/combinations to see what works best for you. It all fits on the flex plan. I eat a
    varied balanced diet. My body tells me when I need more protein now. And when I have had enough.
    Bein in a hurry never got me to goal. The everyday DECISION to not stop until I reached goal and to
    take the suggestions in the WW literature did the trick.

    Lesanne
    365(1981)247(rejoin, 2002)157.5(now)164(wwgoal)

    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qiBJb.275104$Ec1.9451534@bgtnsc05-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:


    "Petal" <mrsdoyles_teapot@#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    guideline.

    I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    touted as an "all


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    day and be technically on programme. I am eating few enough calories to


    lose

    Quoted message said:

    weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you
    take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're going
    to count points at


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same time.

    Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do for life. If you find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests) diet and switch from


    white

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a


    minimum.

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm


    not

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    dietician, nor do I play one on TV. 😉

    This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the


    RIGHT

    Quoted message said:

    kind of carbs. And as many have pointed out, no program is going to work


    if

    Quoted message said:

    you have to give up things that you love. Don't make changes to your diet that you can't make for
    the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet while WW


    is

    Quoted message said:

    a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a healthy
    way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have eggs
    instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch. Skip the
    potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for dinner. How hard is that? My carbs
    these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch. Higher protein than most
    cereals and my skinny cow or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is
    very balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I
    am now doing WW instead of Atkins.

  15. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iekJb.583671$0v4.23218881@bgtnsc04-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus


    women

    Quoted message said:

    need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the same amount of calcium by
    eating cheese or by taking supplements.

    Cows don't drink milk and manage to get enough calcium not only to provide for their own bones, but
    also to have a large supply of it in their milk. There are plenty of non-milk sources of calcium out
    there such as dark green leafy vegetables.

  16. thats why u are limited to 3 - 4 ounces a day of the stuff you have to
    account for everything that you put in your mouth to make sure that you only
    eat 20 carbs for the first 14 days.
    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have also read that too much cheese can cause you to plateau while on Atkins.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese


    you

    Quoted message said:

    can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com angie "Laura" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u


    follow

    Quoted message said:

    > atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and


    Weight

    Quoted message said:

    > > Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    > same
    > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these


    programs,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but
    > am
    > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you
    > > combining?
    > >
    > > Hope someone can help me!
    > >
    > > B-Worthey
    > >
    > >
    >
    >


  17. atkins recomends that you take suplements while doing his diet. like i said
    before you can eat cheese but only certian kinds and your only aloud 3 to 4
    ounces of it a day.
    angie
    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Brian Worthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iekJb.583671$0v4.23218881@bgtnsc04-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you


    eliminated.

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus


    women

    Quoted message said:

    need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the same amount of calcium by
    eating cheese or by taking supplements.

  18. thats what i am doing i'm not rushing things. i'm taking this diet each day
    at a time changing things as i go. i have learned alot from reading atkins
    book. and he even says that if you find induction hard to cut things out
    slowly and that is what i am doing. i know that getting used to any diet
    will take some getting used to. i have ww dwn i just need to work on atkins
    and i am doing that by learning from my mistake and getting as much info as
    i can
    angie
    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gotta say, I actually DID atkins lots of times, and always ended up fatter than when I started
    some 6 months after I got sick of it. Did WW lots of times too, and usually gained back some,
    but never all, resulting in my 20 year long project to now, at goal. Flex in my opinion is the
    All Time


    Best

    Quoted message said:

    Diet ever created. Eat what you like and what feels good, go for healthy stuff as much as
    possible, try new things/combinations to see what works best for you. It all fits on the flex
    plan. I eat a varied balanced


    diet.

    Quoted message said:

    My body tells me when I need more protein now. And when I have had


    enough.

    Quoted message said:

    Bein in a hurry never got me to goal. The everyday DECISION to not stop until I reached goal and
    to take the suggestions in the WW literature did the trick.

    Lesanne
    365(1981)247(rejoin, 2002)157.5(now)164(wwgoal)

    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qiBJb.275104$Ec1.9451534@bgtnsc05-
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

    Quoted message said:


    "Petal" <mrsdoyles_teapot@#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as
    a guideline.

    I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using
    the points system with Atkins, though. Atkins


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's touted as an "all


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of


    Twinkies

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    day and be technically on programme. I am eating few enough calories


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lose

    Quoted message said:

    weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure
    you take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're
    going to count points at


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same time.

    Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do for life. If you find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always


    try

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests) diet and switch from


    white

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a


    minimum.

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm


    not

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    dietician, nor do I play one on TV. 😉

    This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the


    RIGHT

    Quoted message said:

    kind of carbs. And as many have pointed out, no program is going to work


    if

    Quoted message said:

    you have to give up things that you love. Don't make changes to your


    diet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that you can't make for the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet while WW


    is

    Quoted message said:

    a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a healthy
    way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have
    eggs instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch.


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    the potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for


    dinner.

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    How hard is that? My carbs these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch.
    Higher protein than most cereals and my skinny


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    or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is


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    balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I am
    now doing WW instead of Atkins.


  19. not only the vegetables but u can also take calcium pills to make up fir
    what you are not getting as is what most people do. there are lots of people
    who don't like milk or diary or who can't drink it for reasons they can't
    control. before you judge something look into further info buy atkins book
    or check out the web site. i am no expert on low carbs yet but have learned
    alot from this group as well as others, i also have bought the book and read
    it plenty to make sure i am doing things right.
    angie
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    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iekJb.583671$0v4.23218881@bgtnsc04-
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    > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    eliminated.
    > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate
    that drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus


    women

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    need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the


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    amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.

    Cows don't drink milk and manage to get enough calcium not only to provide for their own bones,
    but also to have a large supply of it in their milk. There are plenty of non-milk sources of
    calcium out there such as dark


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    leafy vegetables.

  20. Most doctors will tell you that taking supplements for calcuim is not the same. You need to have the
    right combination of calcuim, vit D & K for them to be effective. Also, it is okay to SUPPLEMENT
    your calcuim intake from milk but with the Atkins diet all you are getting is supplements. None of
    the real thing.

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    atkins recomends that you take suplements while doing his diet. like i


    said

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    before you can eat cheese but only certian kinds and your only aloud 3 to


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    > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    eliminated.
    > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate
    that drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus


    women

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    need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the


    same

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    amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.


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