Weight loss with elliptical

Misael said:

First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need to
know

I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers are
ok.

They're very good.

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I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight

No. The more calories you burn, the better.

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(about 60-70% of max cardio rate
for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of

More like 80-90%. Only do less than that if you're tired from previous workouts.

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machine, can I remain within this range?

Yes (within 60-70 or 80-90)

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Is it recommended for weight lose?

Yes (the elliptical machine is), and no (not at 60-70% max heart rate)

Cheers,
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Misael said:

First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need to
know

I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers are
ok.

Yes, ellipticals are great for losing weight. One way to get a great
workout is to listen to an mp3 player (or any other music source that's
permissible in your gym), really get going for the fast/energetic songs
and then ease back down for the slower songs. Being able to adjust your
tempo that easily is one of the things I like about the elliptical -
unlike the treadmill where you'd have to guess: hmm, is this song 7mph or
7.5?

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I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight (about
60-70% of max cardio rate for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of
machine, can I remain within this range? Is it recommended for weight
lose? Thanks a lot

I don't know what the optimimum range is, although Donovan has already
provided some input on that. My own target is to push as hard as I can
over the course of the hour so that I can get through the hour but also I
really know I've done something when I lock the gym back up.

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Misael said:

First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need to
know

I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers are
ok.

They're very good.

Quoted message said:

I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight

No. The more calories you burn, the better.

Correct, but you'll burn more over the course of the day if you do a
long, slow run of one hour.

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(about 60-70% of max cardio rate
for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of

More like 80-90%. Only do less than that if you're tired from previous workouts.

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machine, can I remain within this range?

Yes (within 60-70 or 80-90)

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Is it recommended for weight lose?

Yes (the elliptical machine is), and yes (not at 60-70% max heart rate)

I corrected his ignorance above.

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Martha S. Gallagher said:

One way to get a great
workout is to listen to an mp3 player

Yes idiot, that'll help you lose weight SO MUCH BETTER.

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Martha S. Gallagher said:

Yes, ellipticals are great for losing weight. One way to get a great
workout is to listen to an mp3 player (or any other music source that's
permissible in your gym), really get going for the fast/energetic songs
and then ease back down for the slower songs. Being able to adjust your
tempo that easily is one of the things I like about the elliptical -
unlike the treadmill where you'd have to guess: hmm, is this song 7mph or
7.5?

So, to qualify your statement. How much do you weigh? And try not to
scare us.

TBR

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more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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Martha S. Gallagher said:

Yes, ellipticals are great for losing weight. One way to get a great
workout is to listen to an mp3 player (or any other music source that's
permissible in your gym), really get going for the fast/energetic songs
and then ease back down for the slower songs. Being able to adjust your
tempo that easily is one of the things I like about the elliptical -
unlike the treadmill where you'd have to guess: hmm, is this song 7mph or
7.5?

So, to qualify your statement. How much do you weigh? And try not to
scare us.

Is the idea of varying the intensity during the course of a workout really
so out there? It seemed pretty much like the idea of fartlek that Mistress
Krista describes on her site, except that I use the lineup of songs on my
playlist to determine when I speed up or slow down rather than a stop
watch. I find it makes my workout more enjoyable than just setting the
treadmill for a steady pace for an hour and chugging along, but maybe
that's just me. I find I do the same thing when I'm swimming - one lap of
butterfly can really get my heart going and then I'll do a lazy
backstroke back.

147.5 this morning. I'm 5'6" and maintaining a 60 lb loss for over 2
years. I'd still like to lose another 20 lb of fat, but at the same time
I've recently started working w/ a trainer and my goals are to increase my
strength and LBM. Since I'm quite sure I still qualify as a newbie, I'm
hoping that I can do those things while still losing fat or at least
maintaining my status quo. My weight is almost exactly the same as it was
when I started strength training, but some of my measurements are down an
inch or so, so I think everything is trending in the right direction.

When I get to the point where I don't seem to be able to make any more
gains in strength while following my current diet/cardio program, then I'm
going to have to make a decision as to how to proceed, but so far I seem
to be making progress.

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Misael said:

First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need to
know

I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers are
ok.

They are ok.

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I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight (about
60-70% of max cardio rate for at least 30-40 minutes).

Try 75%+ instead.

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Misael said:

First of all, sorry for my english, I'll try to explain what I need to
know

I have to lose weight and don't know if elliptical cross trainers are
ok. I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight (about
60-70% of max cardio rate for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of
machine, can I remain within this range? Is it recommended for weight
lose? Thanks a lot
Nando, Italy

I'm an older woman and I found that long-slow cardio didn't help me lose
fat. Doing intensive cardio, like intervals or working at a very hard
pace helps, and so does weightlifting. There's nothing wrong wiht
elliptical machines but listen to Donovan: go hard and fast on it - at
least in spurts, i.e., intervals.

Dally

Martha S. Gallagher said:

147.5 this morning. I'm 5'6" and maintaining a 60 lb loss for over 2
years. I'd still like to lose another 20 lb of fat, but at the same time
I've recently started working w/ a trainer and my goals are to increase
my strength and LBM. Since I'm quite sure I still qualify as a newbie,
I'm hoping that I can do those things while still losing fat or at least
maintaining my status quo. My weight is almost exactly the same as it
was when I started strength training, but some of my measurements are
down an inch or so, so I think everything is trending in the right
direction.

Welcome to the group, Martha, but immediately stop using your real name!
You will live to regret it someday. Anonymous is the way to go!

Dally

Dally said:

Martha S. Gallagher said:

147.5 this morning. I'm 5'6" and maintaining a 60 lb loss for over 2
years. I'd still like to lose another 20 lb of fat, but at the same time
I've recently started working w/ a trainer and my goals are to increase
my strength and LBM. Since I'm quite sure I still qualify as a newbie,
I'm hoping that I can do those things while still losing fat or at least
maintaining my status quo. My weight is almost exactly the same as it
was when I started strength training, but some of my measurements are
down an inch or so, so I think everything is trending in the right
direction.

Welcome to the group, Martha, but immediately stop using your real name!
You will live to regret it someday. Anonymous is the way to go!

Who said that?

Must be some "anonymous" person!! ;o)

Donovan Rebbechi said:

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I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight

No. The more calories you burn, the better.

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(about 60-70% of max cardio rate
for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of

More like 80-90%. Only do less than that if you're tired from
previous workouts.

Yes, but you're a pretty well trained runner, Donovan.

Do you really think that the typical "wants to lose weight"
person can really stay at 80-90% of his max HR for 30-40
minutes?

I'd say you'd have to pretty near elite anyway to do that
and if you were, you wouldn't be worrying about losing
a few pounds or using an elliptical?

I suspect that a chubby person who tried to lose weight
your way would give up after 5 minutes or less and probably
never try again.

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Helgi Briem said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Quoted message said:

I know that a low intensity program is ideal to lose weight

No. The more calories you burn, the better.

Quoted message said:

(about 60-70% of max cardio rate
for at least 30-40 minutes). With this type of

More like 80-90%. Only do less than that if you're tired from
previous workouts.

Yes, but you're a pretty well trained runner, Donovan.

Do you really think that the typical "wants to lose weight"
person can really stay at 80-90% of his max HR for 30-40
minutes?

I'd say you'd have to pretty near elite anyway to do that
and if you were, you wouldn't be worrying about losing
a few pounds or using an elliptical?

I suspect that a chubby person who tried to lose weight
your way would give up after 5 minutes or less and probably
never try again.

What you say is absolutely correct Helgi! ;o)

Hey Dally,

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Martha S. Gallagher wrote:

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147.5 this morning. I'm 5'6" and maintaining a 60 lb loss for over 2 years.

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Welcome to the group, Martha, but immediately stop using your real name! You
will live to regret it someday. Anonymous is the way to go!

Thanks for the welcome.

I've been posting to usenet using my real name since at least 1995
(probably earlier, but that's as far as google can find me). So far, no
one's hunted me down and killed me. I even used to post my contact
information on the neijia list and *that* was a tough room. I'm afraid I'm
just not interesting enough to get my own stalker.

Sad, really, but there it is.

<g>

Martha

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