Weight lifting: slow

yes
this a.m did 80 minutes.
over sleep 140 minutes.
8/14= 4/7
double your rest time
so if you
work 8 h
travel time 3h
sleep 8 h
19/24
5 h=
1 hour wts
sleep = 10
2 h to run

sav 1 h for I don't have a life no mor.

endurance = many reps light weights
speed = many fast reps light weights.
strength=heavy weights few reps.
Books numerous on body building.

I run first then lift
when lift first then run rips big leg an back.
when after lift. not run.
I run at end.

found run before take 90%
lift before take 40%

so was sent to girl area in lift.
fell off house too.

w I well never do gym again.
unless I get a job that well pay money.
havent found one in 4 to 5 years.
Butt I know were the bull is.
thee big $ me slave.
and I get abused.
and no job......
no unemployment
no zero Die Die Die......
3 feet of snow
near zero temps.
strong winds.
white out in light. no glass.
zero 10¢ cans.
spring soon in march 21 2005.
I wait it out.
no replies.
no one at golf offices for hire.
no ne factory built yet for car jobs sent...
no returns still
use to it.
allrady sent a zillion times.
and rd tape.
all my fault.
a lot of irs bills now to come again.
I not die......
I just learn to smile while every one else die
butt face wheeler. Lowtuc.

I still got 70 80 minute lift in.

What is the rationale for going so slow?

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My weight lifting routine used to be 3 sets of 8-12 reps for each
exercise. Then I switched to a very slow lift taking 14-20 seconds to
complete each exercise and then do this without stopping to muscle
exaustion. Now,I start off using regular speed, go to a very slow speed
and then switch to a lighter weight and go to exhaustion without
stopping.

My objective is not body building but just to get in shape for other
sports.

Any suggestions? Any research done on this?

Jack

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My weight lifting routine used to be 3 sets of 8-12 reps for each
exercise. Then I switched to a very slow lift taking 14-20 seconds to
complete each exercise and then do this without stopping to muscle
exaustion. Now,I start off using regular speed, go to a very slow speed
and then switch to a lighter weight and go to exhaustion without
stopping.

My objective is not body building but just to get in shape for other
sports.

Any suggestions? Any research done on this?

Jack

Don't overcomplicate things, try 2 sessions a week, one light weights, one
heavy. Make it so that they don't interfere with your running or recovery
from running. Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench for you jack...

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What is the rationale for going so slow? <<

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Sam,

Super slow lifting is the new thing. There are some new exercise places
around there that feature just that. The rationale is that working your
muscles to exhaustion with slow lifts gets you in shape faster and with
less time invested than the traditional 3 rounds of 8-12 reps for each
exercise. I know of no research that says super slow is better or worse
than the old way.

Jack

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didgerman said:

Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench
for you jack

I happen to like flies; they're good for the shoulders, back,
and back of the shoulders and that's good for running as well.
You don't just run with your quads and calves...

you must be quite the sight running down the path on your hands.

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Jack said:

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>What is the rationale for going so slow? <<

===
Sam,

Super slow lifting is the new thing. There are some new exercise places
around there that feature just that. The rationale is that working your
muscles to exhaustion with slow lifts gets you in shape faster and with
less time invested than the traditional 3 rounds of 8-12 reps for each
exercise. I know of no research that says super slow is better or worse
than the old way.

Jack

Supposedly Hugh Jackman bulked up and got his well chiseled
physique by doing slow lifts for his role of Wolverine in X-Men.

Well, does anyone here want to get bulked up?

Here is what looks like a decent review/overview
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/super-slow-weight-training.html

This is not very favorable...

From a sport performance standpoint, slow makes little sense. You do not
want slow movements during performance. In fact, most of the time you want
to speed up the movement (this does not mean getting sloppy and dangerous
with technique).

didgerman said:

Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
making your muscle stand out.

I suppose it depends.
What kind of "fly" you are bothered about?

The kind with wings are quite annoying.

The kind with zippers, though...

;-)

Fly as in mexican flies.

bad mistake.
next thing you know. there well be kids,
a house,
bills
a boss.
and latter.
well wait. it never ends........

and then die......
and still on planet.
great I can do any thing I want to.
No Boss
No work
No money
and I can evan call you all cheap low mileage A ) 0 (......... an you
do zero too.
just like I need a job and you think I am a comedean.
lift weights.

sure. why not.
butt don't take the fly.
un less your a pro and make millions.
then it is o.k.

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didgerman said:

Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench
for you jack

I happen to like flies; they're good for the shoulders, back,
and back of the shoulders and that's good for running as well.
You don't just run with your quads and calves...

Nope, flies are for shaping your pecs.

Interesting article. Thanks. I need to reread it. The article says
intensity during super slow lifts is less than regular. That has not
been my experience. Try it yourself. Do 10 seconds contracting and 5
seconds expanding for 8-10 reps. According to my HRM, my HR goes higher
on super slow than regular. Intensity might be defined differently in
the article than I define it myself.

Jack

didgerman said:

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didgerman said:

Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench
for you jack

I happen to like flies; they're good for the shoulders, back,
and back of the shoulders and that's good for running as well.
You don't just run with your quads and calves...

Nope, flies are for shaping your pecs.

Nope. They also work the shoulders and can be used
to specifically target shoulders, rotator cuff, and
back.

Sam said:

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Jack said:

>>What is the rationale for going so slow? <<

===
Sam,

Super slow lifting is the new thing. There are some new exercise places
around there that feature just that. The rationale is that working your
muscles to exhaustion with slow lifts gets you in shape faster and with
less time invested than the traditional 3 rounds of 8-12 reps for each
exercise. I know of no research that says super slow is better or worse
than the old way.

Jack

Supposedly Hugh Jackman bulked up and got his well chiseled
physique by doing slow lifts for his role of Wolverine in X-Men.

Well, does anyone here want to get bulked up?

Not all runners must necessarily look like a pogo
stick 🙂

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Here is what looks like a decent review/overview
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/super-slow-weight-training.html

This is not very favorable...

It's effectiveness is debatable. Some say the original
slow lift studies were flawed and regular speed lifting
develops greater strength.

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didgerman said:

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didgerman wrote:
>
> Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
> making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench
> for you jack

I happen to like flies; they're good for the shoulders, back,
and back of the shoulders and that's good for running as well.
You don't just run with your quads and calves...

Nope, flies are for shaping your pecs.

Nope. They also work the shoulders and can be used
to specifically target shoulders, rotator cuff, and
back.

Ok, you're talking about 'flies' other than lying back on the bench then. In
any case, flies are not for developing power or endurance, they're just for
shaping muscle. For running the best weights are always lifting, flies are
strictly for bodybulding.
That's my opinion anyway.

didgerman said:

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didgerman said:

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>
> didgerman wrote:
>>
>> Don't bother with things like 'flies', they're all just for
>> making your muscle stand out. Get lifting, squats and bench
>> for you jack
>
> I happen to like flies; they're good for the shoulders, back,
> and back of the shoulders and that's good for running as well.
> You don't just run with your quads and calves...

Nope, flies are for shaping your pecs.

Nope. They also work the shoulders and can be used
to specifically target shoulders, rotator cuff, and
back.

Ok, you're talking about 'flies' other than lying back on the bench then.

Yes, but those also still work the shoulders...

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In
any case, flies are not for developing power or endurance, they're just for
shaping muscle.

Any weight bearing exercise can be used for
developing endurance vs. building muscle mass.

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For running the best weights are always lifting, flies are
strictly for bodybulding.
That's my opinion anyway.

It's a wrong presumption. "Bodybuilding" is sport unto
itself (usually involving steriods, if I'm not mistaken.)
But the general exercises are often the same whether
sculpting or strength/endurance training.