Weight for Specialized Sequoia Comp

Quoted message said:

I may wish I did not bring up the "W" word, but bicycle manufacturers
never like to include weight on their spec sheets. What should I
expect for the weight of a 2008 Specialized Sequoia Comp, size 58 cm?
The new Sequoia line is due to be available sometime in September
2007.

Same question for the baseline version of its racier cousin, the
Specialized Roubaix? The baseline (I hate to call it "entry level"😉
has an aluminum frame, with carbon seatstays and fork.

Bill

When you're done with the test drive, ask the LBS to weigh it for you.

-bdbafh

Quoted message said:

I may wish I did not bring up the "W" word, but bicycle manufacturers
never like to include weight on their spec sheets. What should I
expect for the weight of a 2008 Specialized Sequoia Comp, size 58 cm?
The new Sequoia line is due to be available sometime in September
2007.

Same question for the baseline version of its racier cousin, the
Specialized Roubaix? The baseline (I hate to call it "entry level"😉
has an aluminum frame, with carbon seatstays and fork.

Bill

Yup, serves me right for bringing up the "W" word. Just one semi-
serious and respectful reply from 9 responses. Kind of blows away my
otherwise positive impression of this technical group. After pawing
through all the other tangible specifications, it would be nice to
have this tidbit of info to add to my purchase decision, but no such
luck.

And the dealer? He avoids discussing bicycle weight also. Guess I'll
have to bring my fish scales into the shop if I really want to find an
answer before purchase.

Bill

Quoted message said:

Yup, serves me right for bringing up the "W" word. Just one semi-
serious and respectful reply from 9 responses. Kind of blows away my
otherwise positive impression of this technical group. After pawing
through all the other tangible specifications, it would be nice to
have this tidbit of info to add to my purchase decision, but no such
luck.

And the dealer? He avoids discussing bicycle weight also. Guess I'll
have to bring my fish scales into the shop if I really want to find an
answer before purchase.

It is interesting to know bike weight, but not that practical an
everyday statistic. If you are like me, the first thing I do with a new
bike anyway is to mount my favorite computer, lights, reflector,
tool/supply pouch on it. Some people here are not that tactful, but
their point is well made. The best way for most of us to reduce the
weight of the overall rider/bike package is to exercise and reduce our
own weight.

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Sep 6, 8:28 am, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:

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This weight thing is outta hand and just plain silly: In June, I went
on a local club-organized century/metric century. I rode my vintage
Motobecane because it suited my mood; at the start, another rider
admired the leather handlebar cover, then asked, with a sraight face
and serous tone: "What's the weight penalty?".

Quoted message said:

15#, mostly PBR, mackerels, and pasta with white beans--but delicious
and worth it!

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As far as the bike, I've wanted to restore me up one of those classic
Motobecanes since I kept seeing a couples' locked up by Navy Pier
every time I rode by. Restored to be a rider, not a garage queen, so
it would be befouled by some Japanoparts.

Viva Japanoparts! My Moto has a French saddle (Ideale 92) and headset
(Stronglight). The rest is a mix of Shimano stuff with the exception
of a pair of MA-2 rims and Cinelli bar and stem (modified to fit the
French steerer tube.

I'm guessing that's far more complicated than grinding down a JIS fork
crown, which is my most wacky mod on that bike region.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I may wish I did not bring up the "W" word, but bicycle manufacturers
never like to include weight on their spec sheets. What should I
expect for the weight of a 2008 Specialized Sequoia Comp, size 58 cm?
The new Sequoia line is due to be available sometime in September
2007.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Yup, serves me right for bringing up the "W" word. Just one semi-
serious and respectful reply from 9 responses. Kind of blows away my
otherwise positive impression of this technical group. After pawing
through all the other tangible specifications, it would be nice to
have this tidbit of info to add to my purchase decision, but no such
luck.

And the dealer? He avoids discussing bicycle weight also. Guess I'll
have to bring my fish scales into the shop if I really want to find an
answer before purchase.

I think my friend Todd Fahrner put it very well this way:

"Asking how much a beautiful, sensible, comfortable bike weighs
is like asking a beautiful, sensible, easygoing person the
dimensions of their sex organs. Especially if you ask in the
first 30
seconds. It's not that you can't be curious, but it's sort of a
vulgar
preoccupation whose real significance to happiness is vastly
overstated." (From http://clevercycles.com/?p=193)

Of course, if your bike-object of desire is neither beautiful, nor
sensible, nor easygoing, nor comfortable-- if in fact it has no other
virtues beyond how much it weighs-- then your keen interest in the
matter makes more sense.

Chalo

landotter said:

On Sep 6, 3:04 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

landotter said:

> This weight thing is outta hand and just plain silly: In June, I went
> on a local club-organized century/metric century. I rode my vintage
> Motobecane because it suited my mood; at the start, another rider
> admired the leather handlebar cover, then asked, with a sraight face
> and serous tone: "What's the weight penalty?".

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

15#, mostly PBR, mackerels, and pasta with white beans--but delicious
and worth it!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As far as the bike, I've wanted to restore me up one of those classic
Motobecanes since I kept seeing a couples' locked up by Navy Pier
every time I rode by. Restored to be a rider, not a garage queen, so
it would be befouled by some Japanoparts.

Quoted message said:

Viva Japanoparts! My Moto has a French saddle (Ideale 92) and headset
(Stronglight). The rest is a mix of Shimano stuff with the exception
of a pair of MA-2 rims and Cinelli bar and stem (modified to fit the
French steerer tube.

I'm guessing that's far more complicated than grinding down a JIS fork
crown, which is my most wacky mod on that bike region.

Did you use a crown race cutter? Or some other method..........?

As for the stem, it only needs to go from 22.2mm to 22mm. About an
hours work, total, including polishing, etc.

Chalo said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I may wish I did not bring up the "W" word, but bicycle manufacturers
never like to include weight on their spec sheets. What should I
expect for the weight of a 2008 Specialized Sequoia Comp, size 58 cm?
The new Sequoia line is due to be available sometime in September
2007.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Yup, serves me right for bringing up the "W" word. Just one semi-
serious and respectful reply from 9 responses. Kind of blows away my
otherwise positive impression of this technical group. After pawing
through all the other tangible specifications, it would be nice to
have this tidbit of info to add to my purchase decision, but no such
luck.

Quoted message said:

And the dealer? He avoids discussing bicycle weight also. Guess I'll
have to bring my fish scales into the shop if I really want to find an
answer before purchase.

I think my friend Todd Fahrner put it very well this way:

"Asking how much a beautiful, sensible, comfortable bike weighs
is like asking a beautiful, sensible, easygoing person the
dimensions of their sex organs. Especially if you ask in the
first 30
seconds. It's not that you can't be curious, but it's sort of a
vulgar
preoccupation whose real significance to happiness is vastly
overstated." (Fromhttp://clevercycles.com/?p=193)

Of course, if your bike-object of desire is neither beautiful, nor
sensible, nor easygoing, nor comfortable-- if in fact it has no other
virtues beyond how much it weighs-- then your keen interest in the
matter makes more sense.

IOW, if the bike is an ugly, logo-festooned, souless piece of mass
produced welded metal and CFRP, the weight is the last refuge of
satisfaction.

Ozark Bicycle said:

landotter said:

On Sep 6, 3:04 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On Sep 6, 8:28 am, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > This weight thing is outta hand and just plain silly: In June, I went
> > on a local club-organized century/metric century. I rode my vintage
> > Motobecane because it suited my mood; at the start, another rider
> > admired the leather handlebar cover, then asked, with a sraight face
> > and serous tone: "What's the weight penalty?".

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> 15#, mostly PBR, mackerels, and pasta with white beans--but delicious
> and worth it!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> As far as the bike, I've wanted to restore me up one of those classic
> Motobecanes since I kept seeing a couples' locked up by Navy Pier
> every time I rode by. Restored to be a rider, not a garage queen, so
> it would be befouled by some Japanoparts.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Viva Japanoparts! My Moto has a French saddle (Ideale 92) and headset
(Stronglight). The rest is a mix of Shimano stuff with the exception
of a pair of MA-2 rims and Cinelli bar and stem (modified to fit the
French steerer tube.

Quoted message said:

I'm guessing that's far more complicated than grinding down a JIS fork
crown, which is my most wacky mod on that bike region.

Did you use a crown race cutter? Or some other method..........

Nah, old race came off easy with an old screwdriver and a mallet, then
ground down till it fit a standard 1" race.

Quoted message said:

As for the stem, it only needs to go from 22.2mm to 22mm. About an
hours work, total, including polishing, etc.

Bench grinder and a polishing wheel. Along with beer, you can
accomplish much!

Chalo said:

I think my friend Todd Fahrner put it very well this way:

"Asking how much a beautiful, sensible, comfortable bike weighs
is like asking a beautiful, sensible, easygoing person the
dimensions of their sex organs. Especially if you ask in the
first 30
seconds. It's not that you can't be curious, but it's sort of a
vulgar
preoccupation whose real significance to happiness is vastly
overstated." (From http://clevercycles.com/?p=193)

Thanks, Chalo. That puts it very well.

Mark J.

I feel your pain, Bill :-(

Am also looking at a 2008 Spec. Sequoia Comp vs. Spec. Roubaix
'baseline' triple... Seems like the wheel set (Shimano RS-10's?) is
better than those on the Roubaix, both with 105 all around, and (at
least in theory) a more relaxed geometry for easier ride...

Done a lot of research, and for whatever that little bit of extra
info may or may not be worth - I would also like to know what the
weights of both bikes are :-). I respect folks opinions, and
largely agree, but I'd still like the info... what, we're not
allowed to ask or get this info? I'm not into being told what I may
ask for.

Will go to a nearby LBS and get back to you with the weights. This
LBS simply puts a bike on the scale when asked, and lets the
requester look - no hassle, no good, no bad - just another piece of
data.

Cheers!

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