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"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

I'd like to know how they would "police" this as a group of four could just
say they were two separate groups of two and had been caught up by the other
group. Two cyclists cycling abreast could say one was overtaking the other
but as they were going quite similar speeds the "overtake" was just taking a
while to complete!

Adrian Boliston wrote on 22/07/2006 09:41 +0100:

Quoted message said:

I'd like to know how they would "police" this as a group of four could just
say they were two separate groups of two and had been caught up by the other
group. Two cyclists cycling abreast could say one was overtaking the other
but as they were going quite similar speeds the "overtake" was just taking a
while to complete!

You've not come across rural American policing I take it?

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Adrian Boliston said:

I'd like to know how they would "police" this as a group of four could just
say they were two separate groups of two and had been caught up by the other
group. Two cyclists cycling abreast could say one was overtaking the other
but as they were going quite similar speeds the "overtake" was just taking a
while to complete!

thats a nice view of of their police - "good point, we cant prove it so
we'll give you the benefit of the doubt". I doubt they're that
reasonable when the regime proposed such unreasonable laws.

same is true here too sadly, among our conspicuous yet undefined %age of
[censored] bleaschmnn.

Tony Raven said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

Isn't this a bit out of date? It is from 2001.

--
Don Whybrow

Sequi Bonum Non Time

"Men are from Mars, Women are from Cadburys." - Ian Rodwell,
Mainframe Developers PP Forum

Quoted message said:

You've not come across rural American policing I take it?

Unless you can say in all honesty ''but my dad's the next president of
the usa'' they may well get the batons out if you sass them. Aint no
cameras out here, boy.

Don Whybrow wrote on 22/07/2006 10:01 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

Isn't this a bit out of date? It is from 2001.

Yes and it was defeated but interesting to see what legislation others
have to deal with. I found another one in Ohio which was a law to make
cyclists cycle against the traffic on rural roads (instigated by their
version of Carlie Annetts whose husband was killed by being hit from
behind riding into the sun). That too was defeated by concerted cyclist
opposition.

Interestingly though in Ohio you do get points on your drivers license
for cycling offences which may be the origin of the myth over here.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Don Whybrow said:

Tony Raven said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

Isn't this a bit out of date? It is from 2001.

Indeed, refering to Mr Armstrong:

This is where the winner of two Tours lives...

Note it doesn't say which tours.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Tony Raven said:

Adrian Boliston wrote on 22/07/2006 09:41 +0100:

Quoted message said:

I'd like to know how they would "police" this as a group of four could
just say they were two separate groups of two and had been caught up
by the other group. Two cyclists cycling abreast could say one was
overtaking the other but as they were going quite similar speeds the
"overtake" was just taking a while to complete!

You've not come across rural American policing I take it?

Here's an example.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/5197792.stm

"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to oppose
the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

jtaylor wrote on 22/07/2006 15:43 +0100:

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Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to oppose
the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

Oh FFS jtaylor, stop your bloody cross posting. If I'd wanted my post
posted in rbt I would have done it myself - I don't need idiots like you
doing it for me.

*Plonk*

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

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"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to oppose
the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

Yawn...so there was a dunce in the Texas legislature in '01.

Cal

jtaylor said:

Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to
oppose the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

You misspelled cross-posted. Hell, you've done it about a hundred times
just in the last few months; one would think you'd have the terminology down
pat by now.

Tired, tired stuff...

BS

"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

Did anyone look at the date on this? It is five years old! Hardly worthy of
newsgroup space.

--
Dave Lloyd
So open minded, my brains dribbled out.

Tony Raven said:

jtaylor wrote on 22/07/2006 15:43 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to oppose
the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

Oh FFS jtaylor, stop your bloody cross posting. If I'd wanted my post
posted in rbt I would have done it myself - I don't need idiots like you
doing it for me.

*Plonk*

Is that the burnt odor of discord wafting from AHZ heaven?

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Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to oppose
the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

That's what r.b.soc is for. *PLONK*

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"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[snip: tired old reposting of ancient history which didn't actually
happen anyway]

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Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to
oppose the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists' freedoms.

Look, just /stop/ setting out to make trouble, will you?

--
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Morning had broken, and we had run out of gas for the welding torch.

Tony Raven said:

Yes and it was defeated but interesting to see what legislation others
have to deal with. I found another one in Ohio which was a law to make
cyclists cycle against the traffic on rural roads (instigated by their
version of Carlie Annetts whose husband was killed by being hit from
behind riding into the sun). That too was defeated by concerted cyclist
opposition.

Here in the US politicians often introduce bills which have no chance to
pass nor do the introducers intend on passage. The point is to seem to
address some tiny segment of the population's immediate concerns.

For example, perhaps some incident occurred causing injury or death
whilst a group of cyclists were pedaling down a rural TX road. A
newspaper says this would not have occurred if it hadn't be such a large
group. The relatives of the dead or injured 'demand' (according to the
newspaper which riled them up) something be done.

Thus their representative introduces this silliness. It fails to pass,
but the representative did his 'job', the people are shut up and there
is no harm done.

-paul

Phil Cook said:

Don Whybrow said:

Tony Raven said:

Just came across this law that was proposed for Texas:
http://www.bicycle-law.com/txaction.htm

Isn't this a bit out of date? It is from 2001.

Indeed, refering to Mr Armstrong:

This is where the winner of two Tours lives...

Note it doesn't say which tours.

Note the captialization. Here in the US few follow cycling so a Tour
means the TdF.

Simon Brooke said:

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jtaylor ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Reposted for the benefit of any readers of r.b.t who might want to
oppose the increasing nanny-state erosion of USofA cyclists'
freedoms.

Look, just /stop/ setting out to make trouble, will you?

Whaddya, new? He's /flailor/...