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  1. http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    The study was conducted from 1988 to 2000 and led by researchers at
    Wageningen University in the Netherlands and other European
    universities. More than 2,300 healthy people ages 70 to 90 answered
    questions about their eating habits and activities. Researchers noted
    that the study suggests a strong association between healthy habits
    and longer life but offers no proof.

    In a separate study in the same journal, researchers from the Second
    University of Naples in Italy found that Mediterranean-style diets
    helped patients with "metabolic syndrome," which increases the risk of
    heart disease and diabetes and affects 1 in 4 American adults.

    People with the syndrome are fat around the middle, have high blood
    pressure and cholesterol deposits in their arteries, and do not
    properly process glucose. After two years, 44% of those on the
    Mediterranean diet still had features of metabolic syndrome, compared
    with 86% of others.

    This research confirms the results of earlier studies, experts say. A
    previous study of heart-attack survivors showed that the mortality
    rate was 70% lower among those who followed a prescribed Mediterranean
    diet compared with people on a low-fat diet.

    "The Mediterranean experience makes it clear that healthy eating is
    completely consistent with wonderful eating," says Walter Willett,
    chairman of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health.

    Yet getting more Americans to adopt healthy living will be a
    challenge, says Dario Giugliano, an author of the metabolic syndrome
    study. Experts say only 1 in 5 Americans eat the recommended five to
    nine servings of fruits and vegetables a day.

  2. It doesn't matter if we start eating like (some type of) Mediterranean or
    not.
    Could just as well be Chinese, Masai, or any other traditional diet of whole
    nutritious foods. The important thing is to QUIT EATING LIKE AN AMERICAN
    (fast food, processed food, sugar, trans fat, no nutrients, empty calories,
    too many
    carbs, etc...).

    Alan

    "Roman Bystrianyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link:


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Quoted message said:


    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    The study was conducted from 1988 to 2000 and led by researchers at
    Wageningen University in the Netherlands and other European
    universities. More than 2,300 healthy people ages 70 to 90 answered
    questions about their eating habits and activities. Researchers noted
    that the study suggests a strong association between healthy habits
    and longer life but offers no proof.

    In a separate study in the same journal, researchers from the Second
    University of Naples in Italy found that Mediterranean-style diets
    helped patients with "metabolic syndrome," which increases the risk of
    heart disease and diabetes and affects 1 in 4 American adults.

    People with the syndrome are fat around the middle, have high blood
    pressure and cholesterol deposits in their arteries, and do not
    properly process glucose. After two years, 44% of those on the
    Mediterranean diet still had features of metabolic syndrome, compared
    with 86% of others.

    This research confirms the results of earlier studies, experts say. A
    previous study of heart-attack survivors showed that the mortality
    rate was 70% lower among those who followed a prescribed Mediterranean
    diet compared with people on a low-fat diet.

    "The Mediterranean experience makes it clear that healthy eating is
    completely consistent with wonderful eating," says Walter Willett,
    chairman of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health.

    Yet getting more Americans to adopt healthy living will be a
    challenge, says Dario Giugliano, an author of the metabolic syndrome
    study. Experts say only 1 in 5 Americans eat the recommended five to
    nine servings of fruits and vegetables a day.

  3. Quit eat processed food exacly :-) and no cancle dinner.. and IF u
    need to eat someting... Protein 😉

    On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:01:45 -0600, "Alan Wright" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    It doesn't matter if we start eating like (some type of) Mediterranean or
    not.
    Could just as well be Chinese, Masai, or any other traditional diet of whole
    nutritious foods. The important thing is to QUIT EATING LIKE AN AMERICAN
    (fast food, processed food, sugar, trans fat, no nutrients, empty calories,
    too many
    carbs, etc...).

    Alan

    "Roman Bystrianyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link:


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Quoted message said:


    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    The study was conducted from 1988 to 2000 and led by researchers at
    Wageningen University in the Netherlands and other European
    universities. More than 2,300 healthy people ages 70 to 90 answered
    questions about their eating habits and activities. Researchers noted
    that the study suggests a strong association between healthy habits
    and longer life but offers no proof.

    In a separate study in the same journal, researchers from the Second
    University of Naples in Italy found that Mediterranean-style diets
    helped patients with "metabolic syndrome," which increases the risk of
    heart disease and diabetes and affects 1 in 4 American adults.

    People with the syndrome are fat around the middle, have high blood
    pressure and cholesterol deposits in their arteries, and do not
    properly process glucose. After two years, 44% of those on the
    Mediterranean diet still had features of metabolic syndrome, compared
    with 86% of others.

    This research confirms the results of earlier studies, experts say. A
    previous study of heart-attack survivors showed that the mortality
    rate was 70% lower among those who followed a prescribed Mediterranean
    diet compared with people on a low-fat diet.

    "The Mediterranean experience makes it clear that healthy eating is
    completely consistent with wonderful eating," says Walter Willett,
    chairman of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health.

    Yet getting more Americans to adopt healthy living will be a
    challenge, says Dario Giugliano, an author of the metabolic syndrome
    study. Experts say only 1 in 5 Americans eat the recommended five to
    nine servings of fruits and vegetables a day.


  4. [email hidden] (Roman Bystrianyk) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    Little dairy? Really? Then what do the mediterraneans do with all
    the cheese they make? Export it? Feed it to the dogs?

  5. 22 Sep 2004 16:01:54 -0700 in article
    <[email hidden]> [email hidden]

    (Tony Lew) said:

    [email hidden] (Roman Bystrianyk) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    Little dairy? Really? Then what do the mediterraneans do with all
    the cheese they make? Export it? Feed it to the dogs?


    The best example of Mediterranean diet is the traditional Cretan diet, which
    contains relatively low amount of dairy products. Only fermented dairy
    products, feta cheese and yoghurt made of goat or sheep milk are used. And
    yes, Mediterranean countries do export cheese.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  6. Thu, 23 Sep 2004 02:17:13 +0300 in article
    <[email hidden]> Matti Narkia

    Quoted message said:

    22 Sep 2004 16:01:54 -0700 in article
    <[email hidden]> [email hidden]

    (Tony Lew) said:

    Little dairy? Really? Then what do the mediterraneans do with all
    the cheese they make? Export it? Feed it to the dogs?


    The best example of Mediterranean diet is the traditional Cretan diet, which
    contains relatively low amount of dairy products. Only fermented dairy
    products, feta cheese and yoghurt made of goat or sheep milk are used. And
    yes, Mediterranean countries do export cheese.


    There is an interesting comment about cheese in thearticle

    Serge Renaud: from French paradox to Cretan miracle.
    Lancet 2000; 355: 48 - 52.
    <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol355/iss9197/full/llan.355.9197.news.2419.1>

    "Renaud's answer is simple. The participants in the Lyon
    study ate like Cretans: no butter, cream, or milk; lots of
    vegetables, fruit, bread, and cereals; and little meat. For
    the study, Renaud designed a margarine similar in
    composition to olive oil, but enriched in alpha-linolenic
    acid. Patients ate cheese ("a 9000 year old invention not
    linked to coronary disease"😉 and, of course, drank wine.
    Other linolenic acid-rich ingredients of the Cretan diet--
    walnuts, snails, and purslane--were replaced by his
    margarine. Although linolenic acid's protective effects have
    been corroborated in other studies, Ducimetière warns that
    "the extraordinary [Lyon] results await confirmation"."

    See also

    de Lorgeril M, Renaud S, Mamelle N, Salen P, Martin JL, Monjaud I,
    Guidollet J, Touboul P, Delaye J.
    Mediterranean alpha-linolenic acid-rich diet in secondary prevention of
    coronary heart disease.
    Lancet. 1994 Jun 11;343(8911):1454-9. Erratum in: Lancet 1995 Mar
    18;345(8951):738.
    PMID: 7911176 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7911176&dopt=Abstract>

    de Lorgeril M, Salen P, Martin J-L, Monjaud I, Delaye J, Mamelle N:
    Mediterranean diet, traditional risk factors and the rate of
    cardiovascular complications after myocardial infarction. Final report of
    the Lyon Diet Heart Study.
    Circulation 1999, February 16, 99:779-785
    <URL:http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/99/6/779>

    Leaf A.
    Dietary prevention of coronary heart disease: the Lyon Diet Heart Study.
    Circulation. 1999 Feb 16;99(6):733-5.
    <URL:http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/99/6/733>

    --
    Matti Narkia

  7. Quoted message said:

    "We should all eat like a Mediterranean",

    I think this would depend on WHICH Mediterrenean! (coming from a
    Mediterranean family I know of what I speak!!)

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Roman Bystrianyk) said:

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    What a useless freaking study! How much lower was the mortality rate
    among elderly people who combined ANY diet plan or WOE with 30 minutes
    of daily exercise, moderate drinking, and no tobacco use?!

    Don't like your initial results? Keep adding factor elements until you
    see a number you like. Ridiculous.

    KeS

  9. Alan Wright said:

    Could just as well be Chinese, Masai, or any other traditional diet of whole
    nutritious foods. The important thing is to QUIT EATING LIKE AN AMERICAN
    (fast food, processed food, sugar, trans fat, no nutrients, empty calories,
    too many
    carbs, etc...).

    Or you might just start eating like a old time American rather than the
    modern version of the diet, that would still be a huge improvement...

  10. Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:37:06 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]> "Dropped 21"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "We should all eat like a Mediterranean",

    I think this would depend on WHICH Mediterrenean! (coming from a
    Mediterranean family I know of what I speak!!)


    Like an average Cretan used to eat in 1960s and earlier (ok, we might not be
    able to get purslane and Cretan snails, but following the main principles of
    the traditional Cretan diet would probably be a healthy choice for the vast
    majority of people in modern western societies).

    --
    Matti Narkia

  11. Kevin Stevens <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Roman Bystrianyk) said:

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    What a useless freaking study! How much lower was the mortality rate
    among elderly people who combined ANY diet plan or WOE with 30 minutes
    of daily exercise, moderate drinking, and no tobacco use?!

    Don't like your initial results? Keep adding factor elements until you
    see a number you like. Ridiculous.

    KeS

    I wouldn't blast the study based on short excerpts from news
    organizations. The news usually goes for the simple, easy, overall
    message. If you look at the actual study, it was done to determine the
    effects of the diet, excercise, moderate drinking, no smoking, both
    together and seperately. It appears to be well designed and covered a
    10 year period. There were benefits to all components, the combined
    effect was just the best result.

  12. Chet Hayes said:

    Kevin Stevens <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Roman Bystrianyk) said:

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    What a useless freaking study! How much lower was the mortality rate
    among elderly people who combined ANY diet plan or WOE with 30 minutes
    of daily exercise, moderate drinking, and no tobacco use?!

    Don't like your initial results? Keep adding factor elements until you
    see a number you like. Ridiculous.

    KeS

    I wouldn't blast the study based on short excerpts from news
    organizations. The news usually goes for the simple, easy, overall
    message. If you look at the actual study, it was done to determine the
    effects of the diet, excercise, moderate drinking, no smoking, both
    together and seperately. It appears to be well designed and covered a
    10 year period. There were benefits to all components, the combined
    effect was just the best result.

    But without data like true mortality (not the BS "relational" mortality),
    the study is useless. It's like the study that gave two drugs to two
    different groups of people. The average LDL level dropped farther with
    one drug, and the relative number of deaths due to heart disease also
    dropped farther with that drug. The authors said that this "proved" that
    lowering LDL was beneficial, when that's not what the study proved at
    all. (What it indicated was that if you took one drug and not another
    your relative risk of heart disease was lower.) Without access to the
    real data, none of us know what the results of this study are.

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

  13. "Chet Hayes" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    effects of the diet, excercise, moderate drinking, no
    smoking, both

    Moderate drinking? No smoking? That doesn't sound like any
    person from the Mediterranean that I've ever known.

    --
    Bob
    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  14. Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    22 Sep 2004 16:01:54 -0700 in article
    <[email hidden]> [email hidden]

    (Tony Lew) said:

    [email hidden] (Roman Bystrianyk) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    September 22, 2004,
    Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm

    Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    Mediterranean way.

    In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    Little dairy? Really? Then what do the mediterraneans do with all
    the cheese they make? Export it? Feed it to the dogs?


    The best example of Mediterranean diet is the traditional Cretan diet, which
    contains relatively low amount of dairy products. Only fermented dairy
    products, feta cheese and yoghurt made of goat or sheep milk are used. And
    yes, Mediterranean countries do export cheese.\

    Then why is it called the "Mediterranean" diet when most Mediterraneans
    don't eat like that?

  15. In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Lew
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    I have no idea which part of the 'Meditteranean' this is supposed to
    describe, but it's not a part I've ever visited. The Greeks scarf down
    vast amounts of potatoes, bread and sugar, the Provencals (who fit the
    bill best) like lamb and beef, and cheese too, and the Italians eat meat
    and cheese. It's a fantasy. And there are plenty of obese people in
    Southern Italy, Greece and Spain.

    --
    Jane Lumley

  16. 23 Sep 2004 09:52:07 -0700 in article
    <[email hidden]> [email hidden]

    (Tony Lew) said:

    Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    22 Sep 2004 16:01:54 -0700 in article
    <[email hidden]> [email hidden]

    (Tony Lew) said:

    [email hidden] (Roman Bystrianyk) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=264
    >
    > Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA Today,
    > September 22, 2004,
    > Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-09-21-mediterranean-usat_x.htm
    >
    > Two new studies confirm the health benefits of eating the
    > Mediterranean way.
    >
    > In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    > mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    > so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    > moderate drinking and no tobacco use.
    >
    > Although experts say there is no single Mediterranean diet, doctors
    > say cuisines from these regions favor olive oil rather than butter and
    > include lots of legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, fish, vegetables and
    > potatoes but little meat and dairy.

    Little dairy? Really? Then what do the mediterraneans do with all
    the cheese they make? Export it? Feed it to the dogs?


    The best example of Mediterranean diet is the traditional Cretan diet, which
    contains relatively low amount of dairy products. Only fermented dairy
    products, feta cheese and yoghurt made of goat or sheep milk are used. And
    yes, Mediterranean countries do export cheese.\

    Then why is it called the "Mediterranean" diet when most Mediterraneans
    don't eat like that?

    As I understand it, the name originates from _traditional_ Mediterranean
    diets. During last decades the diets may have deteriorated also in the
    Mediterranean area. _Traditional_ Mediterranean diets have common features
    which distinguishes the Mediterranean diet pattern for example from
    American, English, German, Northern European, or Japanese diet pattern. Best
    features of Mediterranean diets have been analyzed and many studies have
    used a scoring system for measuring the adherence to the best common
    features of traditional Mediterranean diets. In these scoring systems
    generally above median consumption of beneficial components and below median
    consumption of detrimental components increase the adherence score.
    Generally, beneficial components are vegetables, legumes, fruits and nuts,
    cereal, and fish, and detrimental components are meat, poultry, and dairy
    products. Therefore, if a person uses for example a lot of meat and dairy
    products, his/her adherence score will be lower.

    The scoring system used in the subject study

    Mediterranean Diet, Lifestyle Factors, and 10-Year Mortality in
    Elderly European Men and Women.
    The HALE Project.
    Kim T. B. Knoops, MSc; Lisette C. P. G. M. de Groot, PhD; Daan
    Kromhout, PhD; Anne-Elisabeth Perrin, MD, MSc; Olga Moreiras-
    Varela, PhD; Alessandro Menotti, MD, PhD; Wija A. van Staveren,
    PhD
    JAMA, September 22/29, 2004; 292:1433-1439.
    <URL:http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/292/12/1433>

    is described there as follows:

    "To assess the association of diet and the lifestyle factors
    with mortality, a low-risk group was defined for diet and
    lifestyle factors. For dietary intake, the low-risk group
    was defined as those who had a score of at least 4 on a
    modified version of the Mediterranean diet score proposed by
    Trichopoulou et al.4

    The modified Mediterranean diet score comprised 8
    components: ratio of monounsaturated to saturated fat;
    legumes, nuts, and seeds; grains; fruit; vegetables and
    potatoes; meat and meat products; dairy products; and fish.
    Intake of each component was adjusted to daily intakes of
    2500 kcal (10.5 MJ) for men and 2000 kcal (8.5 MJ) for
    women. The sex-specific median intake values were taken as
    cutoff points. The diet score varied from 0 (low-quality
    diet) to 8 (high-quality diet). For the components
    monounsaturated fatty acids to saturated fatty acids (MUFA
    to SAFA) ratio; fruits and fruit products; vegetables and
    potatoes; legumes, nuts, and seeds; fish; and grains, a
    value of 1 was assigned to persons whose consumption was at
    least as high as the sex-specific median value, and 0 to the
    others. The vegetables group of the original Mediterranean
    diet score was replaced by the vegetables and potatoes group
    because the European classification system (EUROCODE) was
    used when the 2 food groups were assessed together.16 For
    meat and meat products and dairy products, a value of 1 was
    assigned to persons whose consumption was less than the sex-
    specific median and 0 to the others.

    The low-risk group for alcohol was defined as those who
    consumed more than 0 g of alcohol per day. Alcohol
    consumption was initially divided into 3 groups: 0 g, 1 to
    29 g, and 30 g or more of alcohol per day. However, the
    Kaplan-Meier survival curves of the 3 alcohol groups showed
    no difference in survival between participants who consumed
    between 1 g to 29 g of alcohol per day and those who
    consumed 30 g or more alcohol per day.

    For smoking, individuals were considered to be at low risk
    if they had never smoked or had stopped smoking more than 15
    years ago.17-19

    Individuals with a score in the intermediate and the highest
    tertile on the Voorrips or Morris questionnaire were
    considered the low-risk group for physical activity.14-15

    A lifestyle score was calculated by adding the individual
    scores for diet, physical activity level, smoking status,
    and alcohol intake. Individuals scored 1 point if they
    belonged to the low-risk group for diet or a particular
    lifestyle factor and 0 if they belonged to the high-risk
    group. In total, an individual could obtain 4 points: 1
    point for a Mediterranean diet and 3 points for the
    healthful lifestyle factors."

    This scoring system left out alcohol from Mediterranean diet score, because
    it was included as a separate factor. Other scoring systems have included
    alcohol. The above cited "the Mediterranean diet score proposed by
    Trichopoulou et al.4" is described in the study

    Trichopoulou A, Costacou T, Bamia C, Trichopoulos D.
    Adherence to a Mediterranean diet and survival in a Greek population.
    N Engl J Med. 2003 Jun 26;348(26):2599-608.
    PMID: 12826634 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    <URL:http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/348/26/2599?ijkey=954de3729cd4bf6a762b30acdf92d99b1f97f246>

    as follows:

    "A scale indicating the degree of adherence to the
    traditional Mediterranean diet was constructed by
    Trichopoulou et al.6 and revised to include fish intake.35 A
    value of 0 or 1 was assigned to each of nine indicated
    components with the use of the sex- specific median as the
    cutoff. For beneficial components (vegetables, legumes,
    fruits and nuts, cereal, and fish), persons whose
    consumption was below the median were assigned a value of 0,
    and persons whose consumption was at or above the median
    were assigned a value of 1. For components presumed to be
    detrimental (meat, poultry, and dairy products, which are
    rarely nonfat or low-fat in Greece), persons whose
    consumption was below the median were assigned a value of 1,
    and persons whose consumption was at or above the median
    were assigned a value of 0. For ethanol, a value of 1 was
    assigned to men who consumed between 10 and 50 g per day and
    to women who consumed between 5 and 25 g per day. Finally,
    for fat intake, we used the ratio of monounsaturated lipids
    to saturated lipids, rather than the ratio of
    polyunsaturated to saturated lipids, because in Greece,
    monounsaturated lipids are used in much higher quantities
    than polyunsaturated lipids. Thus, the total Mediterranean-
    diet score ranged from 0 (minimal adherence to the
    traditional Mediterranean diet) to 9 (maximal adherence)."

    "A scale indicating the degree of adherence to the traditional Mediterranean
    diet was constructed by Trichopoulou et al.6" in the above excerpt refers to
    the study

    Trichopoulou A, Kouris-Blazos A, Wahlqvist ML, Gnardellis C,
    Lagiou P, Polychronopoulos E, Vassilakou T, Lipworth L,
    Trichopoulos D.
    Diet and overall survival in elderly people.
    BMJ. 1995 Dec 2;311(7018):1457-60.
    PMID: 8520331 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    <URL:http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/311/7018/1457>

    An excerpt from there:

    "For analysis the frequency of consumption of different food
    items was quantified approximately in terms of the number of
    times a month the food was consumed, as done by Graham et
    al4 and Katsouyanni et al.5 Thus, daily consumption was
    multiplied by 30 and weekly consumption by 4, a value of 0
    was assigned to food items rarely or never consumed. Food
    items were considered in groups as recommended by Davidson
    and Passmore6 and used by Graham et al,4 Dales et al,7 and
    Trichopoulou et al.8 Food frequencies were translated into
    food quantities in grams per day on the basis of standard
    portion size estimations, and they were further adjusted to
    daily intakes of 2500 kcal for men and 2000 kcal for women.
    Nutrient intakes for individual people were estimated by
    multiplying the nutrient contents of a selected typical
    portion for each specified food item by the frequency that
    the food item was eaten a month and adding these estimates
    for all food items. Data on the nutrient composition of
    Greek foods and recipes were based on a nutrient database
    developed in Greece by the department of nutrition and
    biochemistry, National School of Public Health.9 The
    estimation of portion size was based on the results from
    previous validation studies.3 10 11

    Composite scores are often used to describe total diet;
    these scores are necessary for the evaluation of
    epidemiological associations,11 12 although they require
    some operational definitions. We used the food groups
    recommended by Davidson and Passmore6 in devising a score
    except that we combined starchy roots with cereals and did
    not consider sugars and syrups for which no systemic health
    implications have been documented over and beyond their
    contribution to net energy intake. The traditional
    Mediterranean diet is also defined in terms of these food
    groups with the addition of moderate intake of ethanol13 14
    and therefore can be reasonably scored in terms of eight
    component characteristics: high monounsaturated:saturated
    fat ratio; moderate ethanol consumption (there were no men
    who drank more than seven glasses of wine a day and no women
    who drank more than two glasses of wine a day so that no
    study subject could be considered a heavy drinker); high
    consumption of legumes; high consumption of cereals
    (including bread and potatoes); high consumption of fruits;
    high consumption of vegetables; low consumption of meat and
    meat products; and low consumption of milk and dairy
    products. We used as a cut off point for all characteristics
    the corresponding median values specific for each sex. We a
    priori hypothesised that a diet with more of these
    components has beneficial health effects whereas a diet with
    fewer of these components would be less healthy. These
    considerations are based on the collective epidemiological
    and biological evidence as summarised in the report of the
    National Academy of Science1 and a recent critical
    overview.15 In our study sample only 34 subjects (or 19% of
    the total) were found to have two or fewer of the eight
    desirable dietary components, whereas 104 subjects (57%)
    were found to have four or more of the eight desirable
    components, a reasonable pattern given the attachment of
    elderly rural Greeks to their traditional diet.

    The statistical analysis was undertaken by modelling the
    data through Cox's proportional hazards regression.16 This
    approach takes into account not only the event of death but
    also the time until its occurrence. An assumption in the
    model is that the rate ratio is constant over follow up
    time. Initially, eight Cox's models were developed; these
    controlled for age at enrolment (in three month intervals),
    sex (0=female, 1=male), and current smoking status (0=non-
    smoker, 1=smoker) and evaluated alternatively the eight
    individual components of the diet score adjusted for energy.
    An additional Cox's model was developed that controlled for
    age at enrolment, sex, and current smoking status and
    evaluated the total diet score as a predictor of the hazard
    of death. Survival curves were plotted by using the Kaplan-
    Meier method."

    --
    Matti Narkia

  17. "Roman Bystrianyk" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Liz Szabo,, "We should all eat like a Mediterranean", USA
    Today,

    Yes indeed. Let's see... If I eat like they do
    (traditionally) in La Camargue, in southern France, will
    that be "Mediterranean" enough?

    http://frenchfood.about.com/od/beefveal/r/gardiane.htm
    http://www.enprovence.com/ljones/cuisine/cuisi001.html
    http://berncity.tripod.com/provence.html (Note the wild boar
    stew.)

    --
    Bob
    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  18. Bob in CT <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Chet Hayes said:

    Kevin Stevens <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Roman Bystrianyk) wrote:

    > In a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association,
    > mortality rates were 65% lower among elderly people who combined a
    > so-called Mediterranean diet with 30 minutes of daily exercise,
    > moderate drinking and no tobacco use.

    What a useless freaking study! How much lower was the mortality rate
    among elderly people who combined ANY diet plan or WOE with 30 minutes
    of daily exercise, moderate drinking, and no tobacco use?!

    Don't like your initial results? Keep adding factor elements until you
    see a number you like. Ridiculous.

    KeS

    I wouldn't blast the study based on short excerpts from news
    organizations. The news usually goes for the simple, easy, overall
    message. If you look at the actual study, it was done to determine the
    effects of the diet, excercise, moderate drinking, no smoking, both
    together and seperately. It appears to be well designed and covered a
    10 year period. There were benefits to all components, the combined
    effect was just the best result.

    But without data like true mortality (not the BS "relational" mortality),
    the study is useless.

    And did you read the actual study to see what data was recorded and
    reported before coming to the conclusion that the study was useless?

    It's like the study that gave two drugs to two

    Quoted message said:

    different groups of people. The average LDL level dropped farther with
    one drug, and the relative number of deaths due to heart disease also
    dropped farther with that drug. The authors said that this "proved" that
    lowering LDL was beneficial, when that's not what the study proved at
    all.

    And what does drawing incorrect inferences have to do with this? In
    this example, you're right, the data doesn't show that the lowering of
    LDL was the mechanism, only that the drug reduced the incidence of
    heart disease. That would certainly be jumping to conclusions. What
    evidence do you have that this was done with the current study?

    (What it indicated was that if you took one drug and not another

    Quoted message said:

    your relative risk of heart disease was lower.) Without access to the
    real data, none of us know what the results of this study are.

    OK, but without access how do you know it's useless based on a news
    report excerpt?

  19. Opinicus said:

    Yes indeed. Let's see... If I eat like they do (traditionally) in La
    Camargue, in southern France, will that be "Mediterranean" enough?

    This certainly qualified as mediterrannean back when I lived there...
    Though the diet in southern France is not homogeneous. What you describe
    is the southest area, which is pretty close to the standard
    mediterrannean diet. Though even there, you have local variations. Just
    move 100km north of Camargue, and the diets already start to shift (fish
    soups and seashells disappear, salted cod becomes more common, garlic
    and thym get even more common...).
    The southwest past (Toulouse) is a weird mix of features from the
    mediterrannea (vegetables, olive oil, fruits, garlic...) and really
    specific parts (duck, goose, duck and good fat, beans, foie gras...).
    This is a pretty unique diet, and actually at the root of the "French
    paradox". People in that area exhibit exceptionnal health, "despite" a
    pretty non-standard diet (and a heavy rugby&party tradition).
    Likewise, North Africa is still mediterrannean (olive oil, garlic and
    herbs, beans, cereals, fish...) but adds its own mix (mutton and lamb,
    honey...).
    There might be a common trait among all the mediterrannean diets, but
    each country is very specific, that's probably one of the areas of the
    world where you have the most diverse diets in the smallest area. That's
    also what makes studying these diets so hard, a lot of tiny factors
    change when you move around.

  20. And walk like an Egyptian? <LOL>
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