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  1. Version of this ride report with pictures at:
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Manchester 100 ride 2005

    The Manchester 100 bike ride is an annual event in September offering 100km
    (63 miles) and 100 mile routes. In March Audrey wondered if she was capable
    of getting fit enough to do it. Steph responded with the challenge of "If I
    can, you can". We could, and we did.

    Our scheduled start time was 8am, with what seemed like about a quarter of
    the almost 4000 riders entered milling around in Wythenshawe Park. The day
    got off to a very bad start when Audrey had a puncture before reaching the
    start line, but fortunately that was the only mechanical problem all day.

    Our one and only successful overtaking manoeuvre of the day was achieved
    just a few hundred yards from the start. There were about three other groups
    keeping pace with us, but we were some of the slowest riders out there.

    The route started by going from Wythenshawe into Hale Barns, a very
    expensive Manchester suburb, inhabited by the least courteous drivers on the
    entire route. One driver honked when I took the lane at traffic lights which
    were too narrow for her to pass me, so I gave her a cheery wave, which
    seemed to infuriate her even more. From Hale Barns we went over the M60,
    through Ashley and past the Rostherne entrance to Tatton Park (stately
    home). This is a route that Audrey and I have done often on our regular
    Sunday training rides, but always in the other direction from Tatton towards
    home, after tea and cakes at the hall. The road along the wall of the estate
    is long and straight so the cars go rather fast. I'd rather be going faster
    down the hill than up it.

    By now the riders were quite spread out, so it seemed like we were on our
    own, but at each busy junction where there was a few seconds pause to get
    across a group of at least 10 cyclists formed in seconds. After going over
    the M6 by bridge at Tabley Hill the route crossed the busy A556 just south
    of junction 19, and on regrouping at the other side we had our first food of
    the day, working on the eat before you're hungry theory. 16 miles of ride
    done, and the legs were feeling as fresh as if we'd only just started. Quite
    a contrast to our first ride at the beginning of March, when I needed two
    hours in the bath to recover from only 13 miles!

    Still on familiar territory the route wound past the entrance to Arley Hall
    into Great Budworth, sadly too early for the ice-cream farm to be open. Up
    to this point the route had been flat apart from one climb in Hale Barns, so
    the 1 in 10 out of Great Budworth was a nasty shock. A flat few miles
    through Comberbach and Anderton to recover, then it was on into serious
    hills in Northwich. The Mossley Cycle Racing Team children's section had the
    right idea, peeling off for a cup of tea at a garden centre in Northwich.
    Very embarrassing to be burnt off by a bunch of 8 year olds when they passed
    us again later. We carried on up and down through Northwich, but the last 20
    yards of one steep hill up to a junction were just too much, so I got off
    and pushed.

    Just outside Northwich the rides split, the 100km riders turning south to
    Whitegate while the 100 mile riders continued east towards Norley. The
    marshall at this point was telling 50 mile riders to turn, which given that
    the distances were 63 miles or 100 miles was not exactly clear. Later we met
    one unfortunate woman who had signed up for 100km but got misled by the 50
    mile instruction into doing the 100 mile route.

    Near Whitegate we met Rob from the Dawdling Doctors cycling group, whom we
    ride with once a month. Rob kindly took this photo of us at about the
    halfway mark, still feeling quite good, even though the terrain had become
    rolling rather than flat. The day had been sunny from the outset - look at
    the shadows in this shot - and from here on the temperature was rather
    hotter than we'd have liked.

    There weren't many opportunities to take photos, as I didn't want to stop,
    but here's one of Audrey womanfully cresting one of those rolling hills.

    During the day we saw one recumbent trike, one upright Longstaff trike, one
    trailer bike and several tandems. Most riders were on touring or racing
    style bikes; mountain bikes were definitely in the minority. Every set of
    riders who were struggling, whether it was with mending punctures or blowing
    up because they'd set off too fast, were on mountain bikes.

    Rolling hills soon induced real hunger, so once we were able to find a shop
    in Winsford with cold drinks we stopped for lunch and attacked our
    sandwiches with gusto. But oh dear, getting back on after even a short stop
    was hard work, especially slogging up hills in the heat. It would have been
    better to get a bit further to Middlewich where the route flattens out
    again, but we were just too hungry to wait. Church Minshull comes to mind as
    a place with some particularly vicious hills, where we got to know several
    groups of riders who went at around our pace, stopping for breathers at the
    top of the hills.

    The only official stop on the 100km route was a pub in Middlewich, where we
    had a long cold drink. Some shade to cool off at this point would have been
    wonderful but there was none around, so I settled for washing my face in
    cold water and reapplying sun cream again. The pub was struggling hard to
    cope with so much custom; next time we'll follow the example of other riders
    and stop at a different one.

    Leaving Middlewich heading towards Lower Peover we met a traction engine
    slowly puffing its way downhill. No picture because I was more bothered
    about getting to the top of the hill, knowing that if I'd stopped halfway up
    I'd have to push the bike from there.

    On through Byley into Lower Peover and there were road signs for Knutsford,
    which is almost back on home territory. Our spirits were lifted by meeting
    the Dawdling Doctors out on their monthly run who rode alongside for a
    friendly chat for a bit.

    When I saw the first road sign that said Wilmslow, I declared time for food
    again. We hadn't felt hungry at this point, but I knew I needed some
    reserves to get me up the hill out of Wilmslow, so I ought to eat. And after
    two bites of sandwich I felt ravenous, so it was the right decision. The
    Dawdling Docs passed us while we ate, and then we passed them when they
    stopped for a pint. A refreshing cold drink was tempting, but I knew that
    getting started afterwards would be painful, so it was better to press on,
    having already got past the point of our previous personal best for the
    year.

    Wilmslow featured the only traffic jam on the ride, at 4pm on a Sunday
    afternoon. The ride followed the pre-bypass route of the A34, swooping down
    to the station and then back up the hill towards Handforth. My heart sank
    when I saw the marshall sat at the turning for the B1566 to Styal. This has
    a fast downhill, followed by a right hand bend and then up a short but very
    steep hill into Styal. This hill is my particular bugbear, costing me great
    effort to get up it when fresh. Could I cycle up without pushing after 60
    miles? Well yes, but only by trying every trick I know to take my mind off
    the pain and effort. I was motivated by the idea of being able to say I'd
    cycled the entire route, having by this point entirely forgotten that I'd
    got off and pushed in Northwich.

    From Styal it's pretty much all downhill through Gatley, past a group of
    three people sat in a drive in deckchairs. Wow, we had spectators. Just a
    bridge over the M60, then a bridge over the railway, through Northenden and
    we were back at the park.

    Audrey's partner Rob snapped the moment of triumph as we crossed the
    finishing line, to a round of applause.

    This wasn't quite the end of cycling for the day, as there were another 2
    miles home from Wythenshawe Park for me. We each did 68 miles, my personal
    best for 9 years and Audrey's personal best ever.

    Next year, 100 miles?

    Extra comments for urc:
    Lots of very fit male rears to be seen, phwooar quotient about 80%. (Helen
    Simmons is not the only dirty old woman in this group, I'm just less public
    about it.)

    At one point I idly counted visible panty lines, and came up with a ratio of
    about one third, ouch!

    The organisation could have been better. Three official stops on the 100
    miles, but only one after 40 miles on the 100km is too late for the less
    experienced riders. Anyone intending to do this ride take your own food,
    carry at least 2 water bottles (can refill at the official stop) and
    consider using a different pub that isn't swamped by cyclists.
    --
    Judge: A law student who marks his own papers.
    Henry Louis Mencken
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email hidden]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm>

  2. Steph Peters said:

    This wasn't quite the end of cycling for the day, as there were
    another 2 miles home from Wythenshawe Park for me. We each did 68
    miles, my personal best for 9 years and Audrey's personal best ever.

    Way cool! Well done both!

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck
    MARS Flight Crew http://www.mars.org.uk/
    UKRA #1108 Level 2 UYB
    Tripoli UK Member #9527 LSMR

  3. Steph and Audrey,

    I've been following your reports all year. The great day finally came,
    and you finished in style. Congratulations to both of you!

    Mike

  4. Steph Peters said:

    Version of this ride report with pictures at:
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Manchester 100 ride 2005

    The Manchester 100 bike ride is an annual event in September offering 100km
    (63 miles) and 100 mile routes. In March Audrey wondered if she was capable
    of getting fit enough to do it. Steph responded with the challenge of "If I
    can, you can". We could, and we did.


    And if Steph hadn't responded, and become the wonderful training
    partner and route planner/leader she has, I don't know if I would've
    made it. Having arranged to meet someone else gets you out of the
    house and on the bike on those less-than-ideal Sunday morning when,
    left to your own devices, good intentions are liable to turn into
    louning on the sofa with the papers.

    Quoted message said:

    Our scheduled start time was 8am, with what seemed like about a quarter of
    the almost 4000 riders entered milling around in Wythenshawe Park. The day
    got off to a very bad start when Audrey had a puncture before reaching the
    start line, but fortunately that was the only mechanical problem all day.

    And I'd had one the day before, too. Clearly I have failed to make
    the appropriate sacrifices ....

    Quoted message said:

    My heart sank
    when I saw the marshall sat at the turning for the B1566 to Styal. This has
    a fast downhill, followed by a right hand bend and then up a short but very
    steep hill into Styal. This hill is my particular bugbear, costing me great
    effort to get up it when fresh. Could I cycle up without pushing after 60
    miles? Well yes,

    Whereas I couldn't. Never have got up that hill yet so there was no
    chance of me doing it after 60 miles. Got overtaken by the team of
    kids from Mossley on that hill, too.

    Quoted message said:

    Next year, 100 miles?


    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.

  5. Steph Peters said:


    Anyone intending to do this ride take your own food,
    carry at least 2 water bottles (can refill at the official stop) and
    consider using a different pub that isn't swamped by cyclists.

    also, discourage any triathletes of your aquaintance from ringing you
    up to ask how you're getting on and tell you they've already finished
    the 100 miles, when you have 15 miles of the 100 km left to go.
    [censored].

  6. audrey of said:

    On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:14:23 +0100, Steph Peters
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Manchester 100 bike ride is an annual event in September offering 100km
    (63 miles) and 100 mile routes. In March Audrey wondered if she was capable
    of getting fit enough to do it. Steph responded with the challenge of "If I
    can, you can". We could, and we did.


    And if Steph hadn't responded, and become the wonderful training
    partner and route planner/leader she has, I don't know if I would've
    made it. Having arranged to meet someone else gets you out of the
    house and on the bike on those less-than-ideal Sunday morning when,
    left to your own devices, good intentions are liable to turn into
    louning on the sofa with the papers.


    In theory I reckon I could have made it on my own, but I damn well wouldn't
    have. The getting out of bed to meet someone factor is a huge kick towards
    success.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My heart sank
    when I saw the marshall sat at the turning for the B1566 to Styal. This has
    a fast downhill, followed by a right hand bend and then up a short but very
    steep hill into Styal. This hill is my particular bugbear, costing me great
    effort to get up it when fresh. Could I cycle up without pushing after 60
    miles? Well yes,

    Whereas I couldn't. Never have got up that hill yet so there was no
    chance of me doing it after 60 miles. Got overtaken by the team of
    kids from Mossley on that hill, too.


    I maintain that this is wholly a matter of gearing that my bike has and
    yours doesn't. One of these days you can try it on my bike, and I'm sure
    you will be able to ride up.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Next year, 100 miles?


    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.


    Well think on this, if we're going to do 100 miles in a day, then our
    regular weekend rides need to ease their way up to at least the 100km level,
    ulp! And we have to get faster, 8 hours 20 minutes for 100km scales up to
    13 hours 20 minutes for 100 miles, which is too slow.
    --
    Judge: A law student who marks his own papers.
    Henry Louis Mencken
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email hidden]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm>

  7. Steph Peters said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Next year, 100 miles?


    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.


    Well think on this, if we're going to do 100 miles in a day, then our
    regular weekend rides need to ease their way up to at least the 100km level,
    ulp!

    ulp indeed. But we did shamefessedly confess to sneaking a look at
    the AUK calendar and wondering .....

  8. audrey said:
    Steph Peters said:


    Quoted message said:

    >Next year, 100 miles?
    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.


    Well think on this, if we're going to do 100 miles in a day, then our
    regular weekend rides need to ease their way up to at least the 100km level,
    ulp!

    ulp indeed. But we did shamefessedly confess to sneaking a look at
    the AUK calendar and wondering .....

    Given the minimum speed requirements for AUK, maybe a short Brevet
    Populaire with a 12km/h limit would be a good target to aim for. You
    know you can easily do the distance now, can you do it in the time?

    Looking at the AUK calender is addictive. Riding an event doubly so.
    Reading amazing epics in Arrivee has this nasty suffusing of belief
    that you could do it too.

    ...d

  9. Steph Peters said:

    Version of this ride report with pictures at:
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Manchester 100 ride 2005


    <snip>
    Well done indeed; excellent report! A truly enjoyable achievement.
    Riding for pleasure; you can't beat it! :-))

  10. "Steph Peters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Version of this ride report with pictures at:
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Manchester 100 ride 2005

    The Manchester 100 bike ride is an annual event in September offering
    100km
    (63 miles) and 100 mile routes. In March Audrey wondered if she was
    capable
    of getting fit enough to do it. Steph responded with the challenge of "If
    I
    can, you can". We could, and we did.

    *Most excellent* Well done the pair of you.

    Quoted message said:


    Audrey's partner Rob snapped the moment of triumph as we crossed the
    finishing line, to a round of applause.

    ..jpg???

    Quoted message said:

    This wasn't quite the end of cycling for the day, as there were another 2
    miles home from Wythenshawe Park for me. We each did 68 miles, my personal
    best for 9 years and Audrey's personal best ever.

    Next year, 100 miles?

    Seems entirely do-able

    Quoted message said:

    Extra comments for urc:
    Lots of very fit male rears to be seen, phwooar quotient about 80%. (Helen
    Simmons is not the only dirty old woman in this group, I'm just less
    public
    about it.)

    But not any more - welcome to the dirty old woman club ;-)

    Cheers, and congratulations, helen s

  11. On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:27:15 +0100, "wafflycat"

    waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:


    .jpg???


    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

  12. audrey said:
    Steph Peters said:


    Quoted message said:

    >Next year, 100 miles?
    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.


    Well think on this, if we're going to do 100 miles in a day, then our
    regular weekend rides need to ease their way up to at least the 100km level,
    ulp!

    ulp indeed. But we did shamefessedly confess to sneaking a look at
    the AUK calendar and wondering .....

    Go for it. I did Manchester 100 (miles) several times and it was my
    target for the year, my biggest ride of the year. If you have the
    ddesire to complete, say, a 200 or 300 km randonee next year, plan a
    training programme and go for it. I am really pleased with myself with
    what I achieved this year, it was easier than I anticipated, nothing is
    beyond your reach. There are several good books on lonmg distance
    cycling which give practical advice but also encouragement.

  13. "audrey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:27:15 +0100, "wafflycat"

    waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:


    .jpg???


    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Ta muchly!!

    Well done ladies!

    Cheers, helen s

  14. in message <[email hidden]>, Steph Peters

    (') said:
    audrey of said:

    On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:14:23 +0100, Steph Peters

    Quoted message said:

    Next year, 100 miles?


    definitely going to think about it once I regain the use of my legs
    and the feeling in my rear.


    Well think on this, if we're going to do 100 miles in a day, then our
    regular weekend rides need to ease their way up to at least the 100km
    level,
    ulp! And we have to get faster, 8 hours 20 minutes for 100km scales up
    to 13 hours 20 minutes for 100 miles, which is too slow.

    Congratulations both!

    Don't assume you're so much slower than other people here. Rides longer
    than one is accustomed to need to be taken reasonably sedately or else
    you bonk and don't finish. Jon and my 100 miler of earlier this summer
    took nine hours 45 minutes, of which eight hours 20 were actually moving
    (12.4mph). But our 100Km last autumn took seven hours, at 12.1mph
    average. Eight hours 20 for 100Km is not 'too slow', and you will get
    faster if you keep cycling.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Woz: 'All the best people in life seem to like LINUX.'
    ;; <URL:http://www.woz.org/woz/cresponses/response03.html>

  15. Steph Peters said:

    Version of this ride report with pictures at:
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/manc100.htm

    Manchester 100 ride 2005

    (Excellent ride report snipped)

    What a superb effort from both of you. You started off with a goal that
    seemed barely possible, then working together you planned and trained
    made it happen. That's really excellent.

    Quoted message said:

    Next year, 100 miles?

    You wouldn't expect me to expect anything less of you, would you? Now
    you have a solid endurance base you can start thinking about working on
    the speed a bit. That doesn't mean you have to aim at a sub-hour 25 or
    anything silly, just working to get the average speed up enough to
    allow you to complete longer distances in a reasonable time. Reward
    yourselves with some recovery time first though. That means of course a
    few more gentle rides, not staying off the bikes!

    --
    Dave...

  16. dkahn400' of urlhttp://groups.google.com/url said:
    Steph Peters said:

    Next year, 100 miles?

    You wouldn't expect me to expect anything less of you, would you?


    OK, have a gloat, the nagging here is what has turned that from 'you have to
    be kidding' to a 'how can we do it' possible target.

    Quoted message said:

    Now
    you have a solid endurance base you can start thinking about working on
    the speed a bit. That doesn't mean you have to aim at a sub-hour 25 or
    anything silly, just working to get the average speed up enough to
    allow you to complete longer distances in a reasonable time. Reward
    yourselves with some recovery time first though. That means of course a
    few more gentle rides, not staying off the bikes!


    Someone at work remarked that we'd be taking it easy this Sunday, so I said
    yeah, I've only scheduled 35 miles, which left them somewhat gobsmacked.

    If anyone wants to come along meet at Chorlton Water Park at 10.30am. If
    fine then Trans Pennine Trail towards Warrington, lunch at Poplar 2000
    transport cafe (better than it sounds) and tea at Tatton. If it's rained
    all week then roads instead of the trail. Intended distance 35 miles.

    Please reply if you are intending to ride, so I know who to wait for.
    --
    Judge: A law student who marks his own papers.
    Henry Louis Mencken
    Steph Peters delete invalid from [email hidden]
    Tatting, lace & stitching page <http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm>

  17. Steph Peters said:

    Manchester 100 ride 2005
    We could, and we did.

    Well done ladies, you should be proud of yourselves - good effort!

    See you on a DD soon.

    bfn,

    Tony B

  18. Steph Peters said:
    dkahn400 said:
    Steph Peters said:

    Next year, 100 miles?

    You wouldn't expect me to expect anything less of you, would you?

    Quoted message said:

    OK, have a gloat, the nagging here is what has turned that
    from 'you have to be kidding' to a 'how can we do it' possible
    target.

    You could have done it this year if you'd set your minds to it. That's
    not a criticism BTW; you were perfectly justified in sticking to your
    original goal. You have to set your own targets rather than allowing
    other people to push you into their idea of what's right for you.

    However, you know you can do it based on what you've already achieved.
    The extra fitness required to ride 100 miles in a day rather than 100
    km is much less than the extra fitness required to ride 100km in a day
    rather than 10 or 20km. And having got this far I'm sure you want to go
    on getting fitter, stronger and leaner. As winter approaches you can
    take stock of the year and ask whether it was something you wanted to
    do once to show that you could, or whether it's something you could
    incorporate into your life from here on.

    You know enough about cycling, and you've learned enough about your own
    bodies, to be able to prepare sensibly so that the new goal, while it
    may still be a tough proposition, is a realistic prospect. I actually
    think you could look at completing a 200km audax ride within the
    standard time sometime next year and gain official randonneur status,
    working up to it though shorter brevet populaire events. But that's
    just my suggestion. As I said, you have to set your own goals.

    --
    Dave...

  19. dkahn400 said:

    However, you know you can do it based on what you've already achieved.
    The extra fitness required to ride 100 miles in a day rather than 100
    km is much less than the extra fitness required to ride 100km in a day
    rather than 10 or 20km. And having got this far I'm sure you want to go
    on getting fitter, stronger and leaner. As winter approaches you can
    take stock of the year and ask whether it was something you wanted to
    do once to show that you could, or whether it's something you could
    incorporate into your life from here on.

    The main problem with longer distances is the time it takes. Once over
    a certain level, you can pretty much keep going if you
    refuel/rewater/rest as needed.

    Quoted message said:

    You know enough about cycling, and you've learned enough about your own
    bodies, to be able to prepare sensibly so that the new goal, while it
    may still be a tough proposition, is a realistic prospect. I actually
    think you could look at completing a 200km audax ride within the
    standard time sometime next year and gain official randonneur status,
    working up to it though shorter brevet populaire events. But that's
    just my suggestion. As I said, you have to set your own goals.

    I found the step up to 200k to be a tough one, but then I did pick a
    ride that should have had a full AAA point. (>1800m climb in just over
    100k). Next year will be easier.

    ...d

  20. David Martin said:

    The main problem with longer distances is the time it takes. Once
    over a certain level, you can pretty much keep going if you
    refuel/rewater/rest as needed.

    That's why in my previous post I suggested they might want to think
    about working on their speed, in order to be able to complete longer
    rides within a reasonable time scale.

    Quoted message said:

    I found the step up to 200k to be a tough one, but then I did pick
    a ride that should have had a full AAA point. (>1800m climb in
    just over 100k).

    I never meant to give the impression it would be easy. For Audrey and
    Steph it would be a major undertaking, as was the recent 100k. But also
    like the recent 100k it's also not so extreme as to be unattainable.

    Quoted message said:

    Next year will be easier.

    For sure.

    --
    Dave...

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