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  1. in message <[email hidden]>, Pete Biggs

    (') said:
    Jellylegs said:

    Can anyone tell me if i could use WD40 as chain lube,
    i was thinking of using it instead of expensive lube,what
    i was planning to do was spray some on eveytime i go
    out riding,the reasoning for WD40 is it evaporates away
    so it doesn't attract dirt so none of the sludge that builds
    up on your chain,any thoughts on this.

    Been there, tried that. If it's evaporated, it won't be lubricating.
    Actually, it takes time for the majority to evaporate, leaving your
    wheel rim to get splattered by the runny liquid in the mentime, which
    turns
    black when ridden, by the way. Some dirt will still stick and work
    its way in and won't be flushed out by squirting more WD40 on, unless
    perhaps a whole can is used.

    I'm afraid there's no magic answer. There's at least one considerable
    downside to every chain lube. The cleanest ones are very expensive
    for a start.

    Inventors: self lubricting chain please. Get cracking! :-)

    Been done. <URL:http://www.scotoiler.com/active.asp>. Friends who use it
    like it. Downside: little tubes all over the bike.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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    You, you, you! You make a grown man cry...
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  2. Simon Brooke said:
    Quoted message said:

    Inventors: self lubricting chain please. Get cracking! :-)

    Been done. <URL:http://www.scotoiler.com/active.asp>. Friends who use
    it like it. Downside: little tubes all over the bike.

    Nice answers Simon and Tone but I'd like a self-lubing *dry* chain. Metal
    that sheds a fine lubricating dust or something.... I do realise I'm in
    Cloud Cuckooland, of course.... as usual :-)

    ~PB

  3. Quoted message said:

    Inventors: self lubricting chain please. Get cracking! :-)

    A lot of motorcycles use chains with two O-ring seals on every pin; the
    use of WD40 or similar on the outside prevents rust (or it would if I
    could be arsed to so it, which I never am) and the factory grease on the
    inside keeps the pins lubed. I should imagine the major cause of chain
    stretch (which of course is NOT stretch, but the opening up of internal
    clearances due to wear between plates and pins resulting in increasing
    pitch errors) is much reduced by sealing the dirt out - IME nothing
    buggers up tight clearances quicker than a nice road grime grinding paste.

    Of course, motorcycle chains are much bigger than bicycle chains, it
    would be difficult to seal a bicyle chain using O-rings. Also I assume a
    sealed chain would be less efficient what with seal friction and all.

    But then, bicycle chain is cheap enough (£8 for the fixer!!) so who
    needs seals?

    bfn,

    Tony B

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Pete Biggs
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Inventors: self lubricting chain please. Get cracking! :-)

    Been done. <URL:http://www.scotoiler.com/active.asp>. Friends who use it
    like it. Downside: little tubes all over the bike.

    Used these things on both motorbikes and they are *excellent* for
    motorbike chains. I would have thought it all a bit fiddly for a bike
    though.

  5. Pete Biggs said:
    Simon Brooke said:
    Quoted message said:

    Inventors: self lubricting chain please. Get cracking! :-)

    Been done. <URL:http://www.scotoiler.com/active.asp>. Friends who use
    it like it. Downside: little tubes all over the bike.

    Nice answers Simon and Tone but I'd like a self-lubing *dry* chain. Metal
    that sheds a fine lubricating dust or something.... I do realise I'm in
    Cloud Cuckooland, of course.... as usual :-)

    Would be nice if graphite could be used in some way.

  6. Jellylegs said:

    Can anyone tell me if i could use WD40 as chain lube,
    i was thinking of using it instead of expensive lube,what
    i was planning to do was spray some on eveytime i go
    out riding,

    You can, provided you do exactly that - spray it on *every* time you use
    the bike. If you don't use the bike frequently, it is probably a good
    idea to use it after each ride too. If you use the bike a lot, all that
    spraying of WD40 is probably going to work out more expensive than
    lubricating the chain properly.

    Quoted message said:

    the reasoning for WD40 is it evaporates away
    so it doesn't attract dirt so none of the sludge that builds
    up on your chain,any thoughts on this.

    It was the recommended chain lubricant on the Bickerton for just that
    reason - it stopped the inside of the bag getting horribly dirty and
    greasy when the bike was folded up. This is probably a good idea for
    folders that get put in bags, but I reckon it's better to use a proper
    lubricant for everything else.

    --
    Andrew

  7. In article said:
    Alan Braggins said:

    On the other hand, at least in laboratory conditions, lubrication
    doesn't actually seem to make much difference to chain efficiency.
    (http://www.ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp50-2000.pdf)

    But what about longetivity?

    If there's no more energy absorbed by an unlubricated chain, it
    seems unlikely it would wear faster.
    But that's where the "in laboratory conditions" makes an important
    difference. They speculate that the main job of lubricant is to
    be something that isn't dirt, because dirt can act as a grinding
    paste which does effect efficiency and wear. (So can rust, which
    is one reason a water dispersant like WD-40 is better than nothing.)

  8. Alan Braggins said:

    I'd only expect rust to be a problem if the chain got wet, in which
    case the water might carry more grit into an unlubricated chain than
    a lubricated one. If the unlubricated chain doesn't suffer from stiff
    links in the lab, then presumably if it does on the road that's
    because of dirt getting in (then not into the same place that causes
    "stretch"😉, or because of rust.

    Unlubricated chain being ridden/stored in damp air is enough to cause
    rust, unfortunately, then probably stiff links because of it.

    ~PB

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