Waterlooville - Hampshire - Major Development Area

[Mark]

The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application is
for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with an
addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
lanes.

It's important that cyclists' needs are considered from the outset, so if
you're interested, local exhibitions are being held and there are
opportunities for comments to be submitted by post or online.

For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan crossings,
cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to turn
right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans for
cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.

Exhibitions are being at Waterlooville library and Denmead Community Centre
between April 5-22. Council officers will be available at Waterlooville
Library on April 6 from 9.30am-1pm, April 9 from 9.30am-12.30pm, April 14
from 4pm-7pm, and April 18 from 2pm-5pm, and at Denmead Community Centre on
April 7 from 10am-12noon, April 16 from 10am-12noon, and April 19 from
2pm-4pm.

The application can also be viewed at Avalon House, Chesil Street,
Winchester and the Civic Offices in Havant. Comments should be sent to
Winchester City Council Development Services, Avalon House, Chesil Street,
Winchester, SO23 OHU, by May 3.

More details:

http://www.winchester.gov.uk/SubTopic.asp?id=SX99EB-A7807533

Submit comments by following the link below (doesn't work with Firefox):

http://www.winchester.gov.uk/Topic.asp?id=SXEB8D-A77F5D60

Then clicking the "I Agree with the copyright notice and limitations" box
and click on "Public Access Link" from there click "Special Interest" on the
left hand menu, select the application "05/00500/OUT" by clicking the
clipboard symbol on the right, finally click the "submit comments" button.

 

[Not Responding]

Thanks Mark. I've been aware of the MDA for some time but it's a bit off
my patch so I'd lost track of the progress of the application.

BTW, is yours a real email address? I'm trying to put together a list of
local cyclists with an interest in planning & transport matters.

I can be contacted at f r a n c i s 2 0 0 2 (at) d e v o n s h i r e .
o r g but with a few fewer spaces[1].

[1] I used to change the 2002 suffix each year to combat spam but
haven't needed to for some time, as you can see.

 

[Colin McKenzie]

Mark wrote:

> The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
> develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application is
> for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with an
> addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
> lanes.

Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
overtake without changing lane.

> For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan crossings,
> cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
> lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to turn
> right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans for
> cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.

Also look for possible shorter routes than those available to motor
vehicles.

I'm not local, so won't comment further.

Colin McKenzie

 

[Mark]

"Not Responding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Mark. I've been aware of the MDA for some time but it's a bit off
> my patch so I'd lost track of the progress of the application.
>
> BTW, is yours a real email address? I'm trying to put together a list of
> local cyclists with an interest in planning & transport matters.
>
> I can be contacted at f r a n c i s 2 0 0 2 (at) d e v o n s h i r e .
> o r g but with a few fewer spaces[1].
>
> [1] I used to change the 2002 suffix each year to combat spam but
> haven't needed to for some time, as you can see.
>

Thanks for comments. I've sent you an e-mail, as I'd like to be on your
list.

 

[Mark]

"Colin McKenzie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark wrote:
>
> > The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
> > develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application
is
> > for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with
an
> > addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
> > lanes.
>
> Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
> one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
> overtake without changing lane.

This is a good point, especially as the two lanes in each direction converge
into one very shortly after the traffic lights, so unless one of the lanes
is left or right only at the lights, there will be racing to the single
lane.

>
> > For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan
crossings,
> > cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
> > lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to
turn
> > right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans
for
> > cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.
>
> Also look for possible shorter routes than those available to motor
> vehicles.

This is something I will study further.


>
> I'm not local, so won't comment further.

Thanks for your constructive comments.

>
> Colin McKenzie
>

 

[Adrian Boliston]

"Colin McKenzie" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mark wrote:
>
>> The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
>> develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This
>> application is for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150
>> Hambledon Road, with an addition of two sets of traffic lights and
>> widening it from two to four lanes.
>
> Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
> one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
> overtake without changing lane.

I would have thought that a wide n/s lane would *encourage* overtaking
without changing lane as a narrow n/s *forces* a lane change, so long as the
cyclist is correctly positioned and not a gutter groveller.