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    Mark
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    The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
    develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application is
    for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with an
    addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
    lanes.

    It's important that cyclists' needs are considered from the outset, so if
    you're interested, local exhibitions are being held and there are
    opportunities for comments to be submitted by post or online.

    For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan crossings,
    cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
    lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to turn
    right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans for
    cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.

    Exhibitions are being at Waterlooville library and Denmead Community Centre
    between April 5-22. Council officers will be available at Waterlooville
    Library on April 6 from 9.30am-1pm, April 9 from 9.30am-12.30pm, April 14
    from 4pm-7pm, and April 18 from 2pm-5pm, and at Denmead Community Centre on
    April 7 from 10am-12noon, April 16 from 10am-12noon, and April 19 from
    2pm-4pm.

    The application can also be viewed at Avalon House, Chesil Street,
    Winchester and the Civic Offices in Havant. Comments should be sent to
    Winchester City Council Development Services, Avalon House, Chesil Street,
    Winchester, SO23 OHU, by May 3.

    More details:

    http://www.winchester.gov.uk/SubTopic.asp?id=SX99EB-A7807533

    Submit comments by following the link below (doesn't work with Firefox):

    http://www.winchester.gov.uk/Topic.asp?id=SXEB8D-A77F5D60

    Then clicking the "I Agree with the copyright notice and limitations" box
    and click on "Public Access Link" from there click "Special Interest" on the
    left hand menu, select the application "05/00500/OUT" by clicking the
    clipboard symbol on the right, finally click the "submit comments" button.

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  2. Not Responding
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    Thanks Mark. I've been aware of the MDA for some time but it's a bit off
    my patch so I'd lost track of the progress of the application.

    BTW, is yours a real email address? I'm trying to put together a list of
    local cyclists with an interest in planning & transport matters.

    I can be contacted at f r a n c i s 2 0 0 2 (at) d e v o n s h i r e .
    o r g but with a few fewer spaces[1].

    [1] I used to change the 2002 suffix each year to combat spam but
    haven't needed to for some time, as you can see.

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  3. Colin McKenzie
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    Mark said:

    The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
    develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application is
    for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with an
    addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
    lanes.

    Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
    one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
    overtake without changing lane.

    Quoted message said:

    For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan crossings,
    cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
    lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to turn
    right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans for
    cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.

    Also look for possible shorter routes than those available to motor
    vehicles.

    I'm not local, so won't comment further.

    Colin McKenzie

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  4. Mark
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    "Not Responding" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Mark. I've been aware of the MDA for some time but it's a bit off
    my patch so I'd lost track of the progress of the application.

    BTW, is yours a real email address? I'm trying to put together a list of
    local cyclists with an interest in planning & transport matters.

    I can be contacted at f r a n c i s 2 0 0 2 (at) d e v o n s h i r e .
    o r g but with a few fewer spaces[1].

    [1] I used to change the 2002 suffix each year to combat spam but
    haven't needed to for some time, as you can see.

    Thanks for comments. I've sent you an e-mail, as I'd like to be on your
    list.

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  5. Mark
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    #5

    "Colin McKenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark said:

    The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
    develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This application


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150 Hambledon Road, with


    an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    addition of two sets of traffic lights and widening it from two to four
    lanes.

    Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
    one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
    overtake without changing lane.

    This is a good point, especially as the two lanes in each direction converge
    into one very shortly after the traffic lights, so unless one of the lanes
    is left or right only at the lights, there will be racing to the single
    lane.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    For example you may wish the planners to consider ASL's, toucan


    crossings,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cycling audit, integration with existing infrastructure, wider nearside
    lanes and careful use of filter lanes to make it easier for cyclists to


    turn

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    right at the lights, etc. It may also be worth asking about the plans


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cyclists needs over the whole MDA plan.

    Also look for possible shorter routes than those available to motor
    vehicles.

    This is something I will study further.

    Quoted message said:


    I'm not local, so won't comment further.

    Thanks for your constructive comments.

    Quoted message said:


    Colin McKenzie

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  6. Adrian Boliston
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    Colin McKenzie said:
    Mark said:

    The first planning application has been submitted by George Wimpey to
    develop part of the MDA to the west of Waterlooville. This
    application is for about 500 homes and has a change to the B2150
    Hambledon Road, with an addition of two sets of traffic lights and
    widening it from two to four lanes.

    Have a very close look at the width of those 4 lanes. If the nearside
    one is narrow, cyclists will get squeezed by drivers trying to
    overtake without changing lane.

    I would have thought that a wide n/s lane would *encourage* overtaking
    without changing lane as a narrow n/s *forces* a lane change, so long as the
    cyclist is correctly positioned and not a gutter groveller.

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