Road Cycling · Public discussion

Water bottle cage location:

Steve Leuty · 2003-05-17T00:30:46+00:00

Got a question. I see that most (if not all road bicycle racers) have water bottle cages mounted on the frames of bikes. I've also seen cages mounted under the saddle. What is the difference and is there really a benefit either way. I know that it's easier to reach for the bottles on the frame but that is all. I've used both set ups and once I got used to the under the saddle style, it was quite easy to reach for the bottles. Any advice? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Started by Steve Leuty · 17 May 2003 · Last activity 23 May 2003 · 12 posts · 1,770 views

← Back to Road Cycling

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

01 / Original postWater bottle cage location:Steve Leuty · 17 May 2003 02 / This pagePosts 1–12Page 1 of 1 · chronological order 03 / Latest replyPost #12Serge · 23 May 2003

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section: Road Cycling
Published: 17 May 2003
Last activity: 23 May 2003
Original author: Steve Leuty
Posts: 12
Discussion status: Public discussion
Total views: 1,770
Views / 30 days: 0
Topics: Time trials

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Original post
Steve Leuty
Archived post

17 May 2003, 00:30 UTC #1

Got a question. I see that most (if not all road bicycle racers) have water bottle cages mounted on
the frames of bikes. I've also seen cages mounted under the saddle. What is the difference and is
there really a benefit either way. I know that it's easier to reach for the bottles on the frame but
that is all. I've used both set ups and once I got used to the under the saddle style, it was quite
easy to reach for the bottles. Any advice?
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- newsfeeds.comnewsfeeds.com - The #1
Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Report
J999w
Archived post

17 May 2003, 14:30 UTC #2

In the OLD days (1980's) for a short time it was _cool_ to strap your spare waterbottle under the
saddle with a toe strap. Then we learned that it made it a lot harder to rock the bike from side
to side when climbing or sprinting, and it was an easy place to grab during a sprint to balk
another rider !
jw wb9uai

Report
Serge
Archived post

17 May 2003, 20:30 UTC #3

Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic. Frame mounts are better for road racing - better bike hanling uphill and downhill, easy
"grab and push" after wheel replacement, ets.

Report
John Forrest To
Archived post

17 May 2003, 21:30 UTC #4

"Serge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic.
How do you know it's more aerodynamic?
JT
--
*******************************************
NB: reply-to address is munged
Visit jt10000.comjt10000.com
*******************************************

Report
Tim Mullin
Archived post

18 May 2003, 00:00 UTC #5

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
"Serge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic.
How do you know it's more aerodynamic?
Because every time you hit a decent bump, most behind-the-saddle mounts
less drag, and less weight, too. Kinda sucks on a long ride on a hot day, though....

Report
Hawke
Archived post

18 May 2003, 00:00 UTC #6

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
"Serge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic.
How do you know it's more aerodynamic?
Sailors and some cyclists are aware of an effect called "apparent wind".
What happens is that when you go faster you create your own wind and the wind direction moves
forward towards the bow.
Sailors take advantage of this by pointing their boats higher and triming their sails with
the sheets.
Cyclists can enjoy this advantage by having two water bottles on the frame which create a
"sail" effect.
Hawke

Report
Stewart Fleming
Archived post

18 May 2003, 06:00 UTC #7

John Forrest Tomlinson said:
"Serge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic.
How do you know it's more aerodynamic?
It certainly isn't in a crosswind.

Report
Bob Schwartz
Archived post

19 May 2003, 02:30 UTC #8

Steve Leuty said:
[ on the frame or under the saddle?]
analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html
Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

Report
Steve Leuty
Archived post

19 May 2003, 04:30 UTC #9

--------------050405080602050705050106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Nice data. I've decided to mount the bottles on the frame. That's where I've been mounting them any
way. I've always wondered though. Thanks. Steve Leuty
Bob Schwartz said:
Steve Leuty said:
[ on the frame or under the saddle?]
analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html
Bob Schwartz [email hidden]
--------------050405080602050705050106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title>
</head> <body> Nice data. I've decided to mount the bottles on the frame. That's where I've been
mounting them any way. I've always wondered though. Thanks. Steve Leuty Bob
Schwartz wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="[email hidden]"> <pre
wrap="">Steve Leuty <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href=""][email hidden]"><[email hidden]></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote
type="cite"> <pre wrap="">[ on the frame or under the saddle?] </pre> </blockquote> <pre
wrap=""> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStud
y.html">analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html</a>
Bob Schwartz <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=""][email hidden]">[email hidden]</a>
</pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>
--------------050405080602050705050106--
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- newsfeeds.comnewsfeeds.com - The #1
Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Report
J999w
Archived post

19 May 2003, 08:30 UTC #10

Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
[ on the frame or under the saddle?]
analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html
Bob Schwartz
Where's the legend for each graph? How do we know which line represents what?
jw

Report
Steve Leuty
Archived post

23 May 2003, 01:30 UTC #11

--------------000204000304020909060305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Steve Leuty
J999w said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
[ on the frame or under the saddle?]

analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html
Bob Schwartz
Where's the legend for each graph? How do we know which line represents what?
jw
--------------000204000304020909060305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body>
Steve Leuty J999w wrote: <blockquote type="cite"
cite="[email hidden]"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote
type="cite"> <pre wrap="">[ on the frame or under the saddle?] </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="analyticcycling.comRiderAeroStudy.html">--
analyticcycling.com/RiderAeroStudy.html</a>
Bob Schwartz
</pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Where's the legend for each graph? How do we know
which line represents what?
jw </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>
--------------000204000304020909060305--
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- newsfeeds.comnewsfeeds.com - The #1
Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

Report
Serge
Archived post

23 May 2003, 20:00 UTC #12

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
"Serge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Bottle mounts behind the saddle are used for time trials and triathlones - -this is more
aerodynamic.
How do you know it's more aerodynamic?
JT
Actually, I am guessing. There were "aero" bike saddles with protusion back, right where the bottles
are, they got quickly outlawd by FIRC.
I think the whole trend started with "aero" triathlone bikes with NO place for conventional water
cage, and then the "areo" fad followed.

Report

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.

Jump through the discussion

What we know about this thread

Continue through CyclingForums

Active in this thread