Water Bottle

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water

bottle

Quoted message said:

because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the

narrow neck

Quoted message said:

doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched

hand

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washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

Likely written by evian or some other bottled water seller. The
bacteria would DIE soon after the water evaporates and dries. I've used
the same water bottle for years with no problem (never washed the damn
thing out...simple rinsed it off every now and again). Our bodies are
quite capable of warding off most bacteria...if it couldn't we'd likely
all be dead and extinct a long time ago.

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water

bottle

Quoted message said:

because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the

narrow neck

Quoted message said:

doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched

hand

Quoted message said:

washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

TIA

--
It rubs the lotion on its skin...
Or else it gets the hose again...
www.dwacon.com

There's another issue with reusing water bottles over and over for
months and months, ESPECIALLY if they're ever exposed to hot
temperatures (like in your car), and that's the leaching of the
plastic. Whether or not it warrants concern I'm not able to say, but
it is an issue that people are talking about -- not just bacteria.
MOst plastic bottles used to bottle water today are known to be fairly
good about non-leeching with one-time use before the expiration date,
but the issue I think is that the same cannot necessarily be said for
those bottles when they're used over and over again.

"dwacon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow
neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

So THAT explains the hundred or so dead bodies I saw coming to work this
morning.

I am glad that somebody finally figured it out.

Reminds me of the old George Carlin joke about being healthy as a kid
because they swam in raw sewage. Developed an immune system. And George
only drinks tap water. Never carries a water bottle. And even, gasp, drinks
right out of the tap by putting his mouth over the end.

Men's Health has a repuitation of being a drivel rag. I wonder why?

"dwacon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow

neck

Quoted message said:

doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

TIA

--
It rubs the lotion on its skin...
Or else it gets the hose again...
www.dwacon.com

Not likely to get to the level you want if you are paranoid. Most likely
the level of chlorine in your water supply will dictate this (closer to
source, the more you get). I am right down the street from the water
treatment plant, and sometimes my water smells like bleach (mmmm, bleach). I
have used the same soda bottle for water for fairly extensive periods
(months--but mostly stored in 'fridge between takes) with no adverse
effects. Hit it with a weak bleach solution now and again if you want (weak
bleach, the stuff is corrosive as hell)--rinse it out good and know that you
are probably deteriorating the plasticizers so that the structure is
weakened.
Most likely this was put forth by a seller of bottled water (they must go
nuts seeing the masses re-filling for the FREE water fountain).
--
Dr. Dickie
Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick
Proud member of the, "Vast right-wing conspiracy."

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:23:57 -0500, "dwacon" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

No that won't help.

Use the stuff they use to sterilize babies bottles maybe?

Ray

--
2002 1.8i eternal red

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:30:46 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of

Cans and Jars) said:

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

Life proliferates germs. Do you wrap yourself in a full body condom
every time you step outside your house?

Quoted message said:

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

They what?

Quoted message said:

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

Spend ten bucks on a nice Nalgene bottle (no germ worries, no plastic
leaching into your water worries, and less [censored] in a landfill to boot)
and stop thinking so much about the stupid [censored] you read in magazines.

http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2004/08/02/umbra-bottles/index.html
and
http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2005/01/10/umbra-bottles2/

Just to give worries about Lexan equal opportunity in this thread.

ff123

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your
water bottle because this proliferates germs.

Well not unless you've had a cold or let someone else use it - eww germ
backwash! I reuse plastic bottles occasionally, but toss most back
into be recycled. Here's a few other thoughts on this practice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reusing_water_bottles

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/bottles.asp

<<joni>>

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

What a load of [censored]! Where do these germs come from? They're probably all over
your body anyway. Washing them will remove most germs as water contains chlorine
or chloramines. Mens Health magazine are talking [censored]. Thats a myth just like
goldfish can live in a bowl or eating crust makes your hair turn curly.

Geezer From The Freezer said:

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

What a load of [censored]! Where do these germs come from? They're probably all over
your body anyway. Washing them will remove most germs as water contains chlorine
or chloramines. Mens Health magazine are talking [censored]. Thats a myth just like
goldfish can live in a bowl or eating crust makes your hair turn curly.

If it's the article I think it was, there was an ad/mention of the
nalgene bottle, including the price & website. It was just a thinly
disguised advertisement.

Dr_Dickie said:

"dwacon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow

neck

Quoted message said:

doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Any thots?

TIA

--
It rubs the lotion on its skin...
Or else it gets the hose again...
www.dwacon.com

Not likely to get to the level you want if you are paranoid. Most likely
the level of chlorine in your water supply will dictate this (closer to
source, the more you get). I am right down the street from the water
treatment plant, and sometimes my water smells like bleach (mmmm, bleach). I
have used the same soda bottle for water for fairly extensive periods
(months--but mostly stored in 'fridge between takes) with no adverse
effects. Hit it with a weak bleach solution now and again if you want (weak
bleach, the stuff is corrosive as hell)--rinse it out good and know that you
are probably deteriorating the plasticizers so that the structure is
weakened.
Most likely this was put forth by a seller of bottled water (they must go
nuts seeing the masses re-filling for the FREE water fountain).

Liquid dishwasher detergent. It's basically sodium phosphate and
chlorine bleach with maybe a little something for lemony freshness
thrown in. Add a few drops to bottle, a couple ounces of hot water,
and shake shake shake. Fill completely with hot water, let sit a
minute, and rinse out.

Also, especially if you get your issue of Mens Health off the
newsstand, it may be thoroughly infected with bacteria from dubious
strangers. To render Mens Health harmless, first put on a pair of
bright yellow dishwashing gloves to protect your hands (you know, the
kind that go up to the elbow). Then insert stopper in sink. Turn on
hot water and fill sink a couple of inches. Add Mens Health to hot
water. Pour in a cup of chlorine bleach. Wait two hours. Rinse in
cold water until chlorine smell is bearable. Enjoy.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

Only if you're sharing it with other guys in the gym.

Quoted message said:

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Freezing doesn't kill bacteria. It slows their growth so
the frozen thing stays closer to "fresh", which is really
just "minimally infected".

Freezing does kill some small animals and their eggs,
but a plastic bottle isn't a salmon filet, so that's not
really pertinent here.

Freezing does nothing to virii, though drying can "kill" some
of them.

Washing the bottle in water over 140 degrees for more
than 30 seconds should kill most of whatever you might be
worried about.

But then, washing it in cold water with soap would reduce
the number of whatever you were trying to kill to the
aforementioned level called "fresh".

I just fill mine. The handlebars on the spin-bike and
the knurled grips on the dumbbels are far more infected
than my water bottle ever will be.

Advertisers sell water for over a dollar a pint. Men's
Health is full of advertisers.

--Blair
"Or [censored]. Same difference."

Blair P. Houghton said:

dwacon said:

Read in Men's Health that it is bad to refill and reuse your water bottle
because this proliferates germs.

Quoted message said:

Only if you're sharing it with other guys in the gym.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The article went on to say that washing doesn't help because the narrow neck
doesn't get much in from the dishwasher and they also pooh pouched hand
washing.

I wonder if keeping the bottle in the freezer (between uses) would be
beneficial in killing the microscopic baddies?

Quoted message said:

Freezing doesn't kill bacteria. It slows their growth so
the frozen thing stays closer to "fresh", which is really
just "minimally infected".

It does kill some. For example, it kills cheese-making bacteria, which
works for both cheese-making and the relatives of cheese-makers which
make the cheesy smell in your trainers.

--
Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

Chris Malcolm said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Freezing doesn't kill bacteria. It slows their growth so
the frozen thing stays closer to "fresh", which is really
just "minimally infected".

It does kill some. For example, it kills cheese-making bacteria, which
works for both cheese-making and the relatives of cheese-makers which
make the cheesy smell in your trainers.

I'll try it and see. I made the mistake of leaving my
used gloves in my bag when I drove up to Vegas last week.

By the time I got there, my whole car smelled like
peanut-butter cheesy crackers.

Luckily, just washing the gloves in the room got it out
and I didn't have to have the whole bag laundered.

--Blair
"Yecch."