Water

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic OXYGENATED water!

David

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic OXYGENATED water!

Of course. That goes without saying.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>How much should we drink each day?
>
>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic OXYGENATED water!

Of course. That goes without saying.

Apparently not. Cause I did.

I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type that
requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of water"
would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives most
people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.

Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents feeding it a
lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wouldn't have happened with organic oxygenated water.

Oops, did it again. Sorry.

David

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find contradictions all
over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses, etc, so which is correct?

The net is useful, especially when you have a load of experts on a newsgroup
🙂

Thanks again m8's

Sin

I found that three litres a day keeps my body healthy and happy. Now
it's a minimum, being on cyclosporine and desferal. I refill 1 L or 1.5L
bottles in the morning and make sure I go through them all over the
course of a day (and other drinks don't count). I also replace the
bottles pretty regularly.

Cheers,

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
> "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>How much should we drink each day?
>>
>>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
>> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>>etc, so which is correct?
>
> You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?
>
> Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
> bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.
>
> You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
> glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
> horrible agony.
>
> Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic OXYGENATED water!

Of course. That goes without saying.

Apparently not. Cause I did.

I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type that
requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of water"
would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives most
people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.

Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents feeding it a
lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
Did they just force feed the kid?

Quoted message said:

Wouldn't have happened with organic oxygenated water.

Oops, did it again. Sorry.

David

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>How much should we drink each day?
>>>
>>>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
>>> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>>>etc, so which is correct?
>>
>> You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?
>>
>> Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
>> bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.
>>
>> You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
>> glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
>> horrible agony.
>>
>> Be sure you get organic water of course.
>
>Organic OXYGENATED water!

Of course. That goes without saying.

Apparently not. Cause I did.

I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type that
requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of
water"
would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives
most
people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.

Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents feeding
it a
lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
Did they just force feed the kid?

Doesn't take much. Newborns are extremely sensitive to alterations in normal
feeding. Without frequent, regular, feedings of breast milk or a properly
designed formula, their serum proteins, electrolytes, and glucose get out of
whack quickly. They have very immature homeostatic mechanisms to control
these, and no reserves of fat and muscle and glycogen. A few days of feeding
just water can do it. The resulting cerebral edema, if treated early, can be
reversed. But occasionally...

David

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote >

Quoted message said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents feeding
it a lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
Did they just force feed the kid?

Doesn't take much. Newborns are extremely sensitive to alterations in

normal

Quoted message said:

feeding. Without frequent, regular, feedings of breast milk or a properly
designed formula, their serum proteins, electrolytes, and glucose get out

of

Quoted message said:

whack quickly. They have very immature homeostatic mechanisms to control
these, and no reserves of fat and muscle and glycogen. A few days of

feeding

Quoted message said:

just water can do it. The resulting cerebral edema, if treated early, can

be

Quoted message said:

reversed. But occasionally...

Were they poor*, stupid**, or worried about their baby being fat***?
Or just damn unlucky?

S.
has a brand new niece

* too poor for formula and didn't have enough breast milk
** uneducated
*** from Hollyweird

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find contradictions all
over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses, etc, so which is correct?

The net is useful, especially when you have a load of experts on a newsgroup
🙂

Thanks again m8's

Sin

Why not just drink 8 and you will have both recommdations covered.

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
>>> "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>How much should we drink each day?
>>>>
>>>>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
>>>> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>>>>etc, so which is correct?
>>>
>>> You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?
>>>
>>> Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
>>> bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.
>>>
>>> You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
>>> glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
>>> horrible agony.
>>>
>>> Be sure you get organic water of course.
>>
>>Organic OXYGENATED water!
>
> Of course. That goes without saying.

Apparently not. Cause I did.

I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type that
requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of
water"
would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives
most
people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.

Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents feeding
it a
lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
Did they just force feed the kid?

Doesn't take much. Newborns are extremely sensitive to alterations in normal
feeding. Without frequent, regular, feedings of breast milk or a properly
designed formula, their serum proteins, electrolytes, and glucose get out of
whack quickly. They have very immature homeostatic mechanisms to control
these, and no reserves of fat and muscle and glycogen. A few days of feeding
just water can do it. The resulting cerebral edema, if treated early, can be
reversed. But occasionally...

Amazing. What would get into these people's head to feed a baby only
water for a few days? Did they have a reason for this idiotic behavior?

Quoted message said:

David

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
> >>> "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>>>How much should we drink each day?
> >>>>
> >>>>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
> >>>> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
> >>>>etc, so which is correct?
> >>>
> >>> You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?
> >>>
> >>> Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
> >>> bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.
> >>>
> >>> You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
> >>> glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
> >>> horrible agony.
> >>>
> >>> Be sure you get organic water of course.
> >>
> >>Organic OXYGENATED water!
> >
> > Of course. That goes without saying.
>
> Apparently not. Cause I did.
>
> I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type
> that
> requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of
> water"
> would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives
> most
> people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.
>
> Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents
> feeding
> it a
> lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.

Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
Did they just force feed the kid?

Doesn't take much. Newborns are extremely sensitive to alterations in
normal
feeding. Without frequent, regular, feedings of breast milk or a properly
designed formula, their serum proteins, electrolytes, and glucose get out
of
whack quickly. They have very immature homeostatic mechanisms to control
these, and no reserves of fat and muscle and glycogen. A few days of
feeding
just water can do it. The resulting cerebral edema, if treated early, can
be
reversed. But occasionally...

Amazing. What would get into these people's head to feed a baby only
water for a few days? Did they have a reason for this idiotic behavior?

As I mentioned to Selene, different cultures can have some strange
practices. And ignorance crosses all cultural barriers. Imagine you are a
poor, uneducated, 90 IQ, woman with no social support from older, more
experienced women. (of course, you would still have fine kitchen appliances)

Your newborn keeps vomiting the formula the hospital gave you to take home.
When 'you' have an upset stomach, you don't eat for a couple days, and you
feel better. The baby takes water ok, and keeps it down. So, feed baby water
until it feels better. Two days later, baby must be feeling better because
it doesn't cry anymore. Three days later, baby won't wake up.

Simple formula intolerance becomes little tiny pine box.

David

Helgi Briem said:

pvd said:

How much should we drink each day?

I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all costs.

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all costs.

Indeed. Once you've seen a water farm, you'll be sickened and never want to
touch farmed water again.

Quoted message said:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all costs.

Indeed. Once you've seen a water farm, you'll be sickened and
never want to touch farmed water again.

Shudder. All those water molecules crowded in there,
oxygen to oxygen, hydrogen bonds all rubbing against
each other. It's awful.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> "Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> > "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >>"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> >>> "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >>>>How much should we drink each day?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
>> >>>> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>> >>>>etc, so which is correct?
>> >>>
>> >>> You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?
>> >>>
>> >>> Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
>> >>> bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.
>> >>>
>> >>> You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
>> >>> glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
>> >>> horrible agony.
>> >>>
>> >>> Be sure you get organic water of course.
>> >>
>> >>Organic OXYGENATED water!
>> >
>> > Of course. That goes without saying.
>>
>> Apparently not. Cause I did.
>>
>> I have never been able to relate in any way to the personality type
>> that
>> requires precise directions to all aspects of life. "Drink plenty of
>> water"
>> would be fine for me. "Eat less, exercise more" works well, but drives
>> most
>> people nuts. To the financial benefit of every silly infomercial diet.
>>
>> Did have a baby die from severe hyponatremia due to the parents
>> feeding
>> it a
>> lot of water, so, "plenty of water" isn't universally good.
>
> Wha???How much water do you have to feed a baby to actually kill it??!!
> Did they just force feed the kid?

Doesn't take much. Newborns are extremely sensitive to alterations in
normal
feeding. Without frequent, regular, feedings of breast milk or a properly
designed formula, their serum proteins, electrolytes, and glucose get out
of
whack quickly. They have very immature homeostatic mechanisms to control
these, and no reserves of fat and muscle and glycogen. A few days of
feeding
just water can do it. The resulting cerebral edema, if treated early, can
be
reversed. But occasionally...

Amazing. What would get into these people's head to feed a baby only
water for a few days? Did they have a reason for this idiotic behavior?

As I mentioned to Selene, different cultures can have some strange
practices. And ignorance crosses all cultural barriers. Imagine you are a
poor, uneducated, 90 IQ, woman with no social support from older, more
experienced women. (of course, you would still have fine kitchen appliances)

Your newborn keeps vomiting the formula the hospital gave you to take home.
When 'you' have an upset stomach, you don't eat for a couple days, and you
feel better. The baby takes water ok, and keeps it down. So, feed baby water
until it feels better. Two days later, baby must be feeling better because
it doesn't cry anymore. Three days later, baby won't wake up.

Simple formula intolerance becomes little tiny pine box.

I guess in the grand scheme of stupid human behavior, this is not one of
the "biggies" but it's sad. As I have said, I would not last one week
doing your job.

Quoted message said:

David

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Helgi Briem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all costs.

Indeed. Once you've seen a water farm, you'll be sickened and
never want to touch farmed water again.

Shudder. All those water molecules crowded in there,
oxygen to oxygen, hydrogen bonds all rubbing against
each other. It's awful.

Not to mention the runoff from the big corporate water farms.

Usenet Posting said:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:04:40 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of

Cans and Jars) said:

Helgi Briem said:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:39:40 -0000, "pvd" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>How much should we drink each day?
>
>I have searched around on the net a little, only to find
> contradictions all over the place, 8-12 glasses, 7-8 glasses,
>etc, so which is correct?

You see 7-8 glasses as contradicting 8-12 glasses?

Well of course it has no relation to your bodyweight,
bodyfat percentage, glass size or anything.

You must drink precisely 8.65 standard size 33.3ml
glasses of water in every 24 hour period or you will die in
horrible agony.

Be sure you get organic water of course.

Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all costs.

I looked for organic water. Apparently it does not exist. Something
about H2O being H2O.

I just think it is a conspiracy.

SHHHHHHHHH

Helgi Briem said:

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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in

message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all

costs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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Indeed. Once you've seen a water farm, you'll be sickened and
never want to touch farmed water again.

Shudder. All those water molecules crowded in there,
oxygen to oxygen, hydrogen bonds all rubbing against
each other. It's awful.

City Not Worried About Contamination From Dihydrogen Monoxide Spill

KELOWNA, BRITISH COLUMBIA-- Okanagan residents are being assured that
the crash of a delivery truck containing 18-tonnes of dihydrogen
monoxide poses little risk to themselves or the local environment. The
unfortunate accident, which disrupted local traffic for six hours, has
been contained by the city's Haz-Mat specialists, who safely reduced
the chemical threat through their quick, responsive actions.

The emergency unit was dispatched to the scene of the overturned liquid
transport container, and Queensway Avenue was closed-off so that the
chemical decontamination unit could be set up to combat the threat of
disaster.
Although everything was done to prevent pollution, some of the clear,
odorless liquid may have escaped into the atmosphere--although nearby
residents weren't evacuated, and it is presumed that the misty cloud of
vapour will dissipate safely.

"We were extremely cautious when dealing with this spill," said Captain
Yves Trough, HazMat spokesperson. "Dihydrogen monoxide is a very
dangerous chemical, and can be very tricky to contain. Thankfully, the
threat was reduced significantly due of the professionalism shown by
our crew."

"Safety first," said Capt Trough. "No matter what the substance,
chemical, or liquid, my people endure. And I can safely say our boys
minimized the health hazard this time, due to my leadership, their
disciplined training, and of course my quick-thinking."

Eventually, the team was able to remove all of the threatening liquid
containers, most of which were unruptured. But even the compromised
plastic containers of dihydrogen monoxide were removed to a safe
decontamination station, where they will be disposed of in a safe
manner.

Some are concerned that the dihydrogen monoxide will seep into
groundwater and possibly make its way into the drinking water reserves,
but most informed citizens believe that the liquid poses little threat.

Capt. Trough demurred to the praise of the team's heroic actions.
"Whether the substance at the spill site is dihydrogen monoxide or just
plain water, we're going to treat it the same way."

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Helgi Briem said:

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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in

message

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> Organic is way better than farmed - avoid farmed water at all

costs.

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>
Indeed. Once you've seen a water farm, you'll be sickened and
never want to touch farmed water again.

Shudder. All those water molecules crowded in there,
oxygen to oxygen, hydrogen bonds all rubbing against
each other. It's awful.

City Not Worried About Contamination From Dihydrogen Monoxide Spill

KELOWNA, BRITISH COLUMBIA-- Okanagan residents are being assured that
the crash of a delivery truck containing 18-tonnes of dihydrogen
monoxide poses little risk to themselves or the local environment. The
unfortunate accident, which disrupted local traffic for six hours, has
been contained by the city's Haz-Mat specialists, who safely reduced
the chemical threat through their quick, responsive actions.

The emergency unit was dispatched to the scene of the overturned liquid
transport container, and Queensway Avenue was closed-off so that the
chemical decontamination unit could be set up to combat the threat of
disaster.
Although everything was done to prevent pollution, some of the clear,
odorless liquid may have escaped into the atmosphere--although nearby
residents weren't evacuated, and it is presumed that the misty cloud of
vapour will dissipate safely.

"We were extremely cautious when dealing with this spill," said Captain
Yves Trough, HazMat spokesperson. "Dihydrogen monoxide is a very
dangerous chemical, and can be very tricky to contain. Thankfully, the
threat was reduced significantly due of the professionalism shown by
our crew."

"Safety first," said Capt Trough. "No matter what the substance,
chemical, or liquid, my people endure. And I can safely say our boys
minimized the health hazard this time, due to my leadership, their
disciplined training, and of course my quick-thinking."

Eventually, the team was able to remove all of the threatening liquid
containers, most of which were unruptured. But even the compromised
plastic containers of dihydrogen monoxide were removed to a safe
decontamination station, where they will be disposed of in a safe
manner.

Some are concerned that the dihydrogen monoxide will seep into
groundwater and possibly make its way into the drinking water reserves,
but most informed citizens believe that the liquid poses little threat.

Capt. Trough demurred to the praise of the team's heroic actions.
"Whether the substance at the spill site is dihydrogen monoxide or just
plain water, we're going to treat it the same way."

At the University where I used to teach, the organic lab was above the
campus police station. One Friday, the water main was shut off (used for
aspirators in the lab). Several faucets were left on full blast. Over the
weekend, the water came back on, and the police station was slightly flooded
(dripping in from the ceiling). Several of the officers had to be taken to
the emergency room with severe burning sensations, sickness, and
lightheadedness. That is until they learned it was only water!
Never underestimate the power of the mind.

--
Dr. Dickie
Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick
Proud member of the, "Vast right-wing conspiracy."