Washington State Coastal route

Fleabit said:

We are planning to ride Highway 101 from Port Angeles, WA to Astoria, OR in early June. We have
heard that logging trucks are deadly to cyclists in some sections of this route. Does anyone have
any recent experience with this route who can give us any survival tips for our ride? Rodger &
Karen Denver, CO

I found the logging truck drivers, especially in Washington and Oregon to be very professional and
excellent drivers (highway 101). They know their trucks well. And quite frankly, having ridden from
Port Angeles to San Francisco once, and from SeaTac to San Francisco another time; I don't have any
impression of logging trucks other than they never bothered me - looked scary - but never seemed a
threat at all.

(RV's with novice drivers; that's what is deadly.)

I don't know any stats, but cyclists being hit by logging trucks on 101 is not something I've heard
discussed before - here or on any other cycling board.

Further down the coast - near Ft. Bragg - there seemed to be some serious contention between logging
/ gravel / wood chip trucks, and bicyclists - all seen as environmentalists (the enemy).

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Fleabit said:

We are planning to ride Highway 101 from Port Angeles, WA to Astoria, OR

in

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early June. We have heard that logging trucks are deadly to cyclists in some sections of this
route. Does anyone have any recent experience

with

Quoted message said:

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this route who can give us any survival tips for our ride? Rodger & Karen Denver, CO

I found the logging truck drivers, especially in Washington and Oregon to

be

Quoted message said:

very professional and excellent drivers (highway 101). They know their

trucks

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well. And quite frankly, having ridden from Port Angeles to San Francisco once, and from SeaTac to
San Francisco another time; I don't have any impression of logging trucks other than they never
bothered me - looked

scary -

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but never seemed a threat at all.

(RV's with novice drivers; that's what is deadly.)

I don't know any stats, but cyclists being hit by logging trucks on 101 is

not

Quoted message said:

something I've heard discussed before - here or on any other cycling

board.

Quoted message said:

Further down the coast - near Ft. Bragg - there seemed to be some serious contention between
logging / gravel / wood chip trucks, and bicyclists -

all

Quoted message said:

seen as environmentalists (the enemy).

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Chuck Anderson . Boulder, CO cycletourist.comcycletourist.comOpen ↗ Tolerance is recognizing that other
people have different ideals and needs than you. Compromise is acting on that knowledge.
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I agree. I have found most 18 wheel drivers in NW and
N. Calif. to be professional and most will give room when they can or stay behind until they can
pass. On some narrow winding roads with no shoulder it's best to pull off and let them pass if
possible Its for safety, survival and good manners. Most truckers will appreciate it, and it
presents a good image for bikers.

Now RV drivers and red-necks in pickups, that's another matter. The former are often geriatric and
incompetent to be driving RVs and can't judge distance nor the size of their vehicles. The latter
resent bikers on "their" roads. Just be on the watch for them.

And keep your red blinky lite going all the time 🙂

David Storm said:

"Chuck Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Fleabit said:

We are planning to ride Highway 101 from Port Angeles, WA to Astoria, OR

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

early June. We have heard that logging trucks are deadly to cyclists in some sections of this
route. Does anyone have any recent experience

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this route who can give us any survival tips for our ride? Rodger & Karen Denver, CO

I found the logging truck drivers, especially in Washington and Oregon to

be

Quoted message said:

very professional and excellent drivers (highway 101). They know their

trucks

Quoted message said:

well. And quite frankly, having ridden from Port Angeles to San Francisco once, and from SeaTac
to San Francisco another time; I don't have any impression of logging trucks other than they
never bothered me - looked

scary -

Quoted message said:

but never seemed a threat at all.

(RV's with novice drivers; that's what is deadly.)

I don't know any stats, but cyclists being hit by logging trucks on 101 is

not

Quoted message said:

something I've heard discussed before - here or on any other cycling

board.

Quoted message said:

Further down the coast - near Ft. Bragg - there seemed to be some serious contention between
logging / gravel / wood chip trucks, and bicyclists -

all

Quoted message said:

seen as environmentalists (the enemy).

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**********************************************
Chuck Anderson . Boulder, CO cycletourist.comcycletourist.comOpen ↗ Tolerance is recognizing that other
people have different ideals and needs than you. Compromise is acting on that knowledge.
***********************************************************

I agree. I have found most 18 wheel drivers in NW and
N. Calif. to be professional and most will give room when they can or stay behind until they can
pass. On some narrow winding roads with no shoulder it's best to pull off and let them pass if
possible Its for safety, survival and good manners. Most truckers will appreciate it, and it
presents a good image for bikers.

Now RV drivers and red-necks in pickups, that's another matter. The former are often geriatric and
incompetent to be driving RVs and can't judge distance nor the size of their vehicles. The latter
resent bikers on "their" roads. Just be on the watch for them.

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I use a big reflective slow-vehicle triangle taped to the rear of the bike.

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And keep your red blinky lite going all the time 🙂

David Storm said:

"Chuck Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Fleabit wrote:

> We are planning to ride Highway 101 from Port Angeles, WA to

Astoria, OR

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in

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> early June. We have heard that logging trucks are deadly to

cyclists in

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> some sections of this route. Does anyone have any recent experience

with

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> this route who can give us any survival tips for our ride? Rodger & Karen Denver, CO

I found the logging truck drivers, especially in Washington and Oregon

to

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be

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very professional and excellent drivers (highway 101). They know

their

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trucks

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well. And quite frankly, having ridden from Port Angeles to San

Francisco

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once, and from SeaTac to San Francisco another time; I don't have any impression of logging
trucks other than they never bothered me -

looked

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scary -

Quoted message said:

but never seemed a threat at all.

(RV's with novice drivers; that's what is deadly.)

I don't know any stats, but cyclists being hit by logging trucks on

101 is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

something I've heard discussed before - here or on any other cycling

board.

Quoted message said:

Further down the coast - near Ft. Bragg - there seemed to be some

serious

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

contention between logging / gravel / wood chip trucks, and

bicyclists -

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all

Quoted message said:

seen as environmentalists (the enemy).

--
**********************************************
Chuck Anderson . Boulder, CO cycletourist.comcycletourist.comOpen ↗ Tolerance is recognizing that other
people have different ideals and needs than you. Compromise is acting on that knowledge.
***********************************************************

I agree. I have found most 18 wheel drivers in NW and
N. Calif. to be professional and most will give room when they can or stay behind until they can
pass. On some narrow winding roads with no shoulder it's best to pull off and let them pass
if possible Its for safety, survival and good manners. Most truckers will appreciate it, and
it presents a good image for bikers.

Now RV drivers and red-necks in pickups, that's another matter. The former are often geriatric
and incompetent to be driving RVs and can't judge distance nor the size of their vehicles. The
latter resent bikers on "their" roads. Just be on the watch for them.

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I agree. I have found most 18 wheel drivers in NW and
N. Calif. to be professional and most will give room when they can or stay behind until they can
pass.

After all, a logging truck driver, unlike a Winnebago driver, has to be able to keep his rig upright
and undamaged on treacherous logging roads. I find log trucks much less intimidating than most other
large trucks, and a lot less frightening than a motorhome screaming down the road with the boarding
steps extended.

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