Was Lance palying head games?

Bill,
It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
Ride yer bike instead.

Brian
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After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just have been doing a

bit

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more work, and might just be in better shape than we all thought.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/may04/may21news2
I wish that I thought Jan was doing the same.
Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more totally dominant
performance just to make his case, then go home and play with Sheryl.
Bill C

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Bill,
It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
Ride yer bike instead.

If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor that I just made up that
Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he finishes up on GC. The
new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the table.
Bill C

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Bill,
It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
Ride yer bike instead.

If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor that I just made up

that

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Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he finishes up on GC.

The

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new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the table.
Bill C

OK. You're not just trolling, you're trolling+ You should still get out for
a ride!

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From: "B. Lafferty" [email hidden]

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Bill,
It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
Ride yer bike instead.

If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor that I just made up

that

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Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he finishes up on GC.

The

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new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the table.
Bill C

If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go Finland
didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?

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Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern

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If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go Finland
didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?

I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good one. If
you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering the the
hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty damn
good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really good
picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was in a
black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro, reading
a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.
Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays with
Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.
Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn good.
Go Lyne
Bill C

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From: "Sierraman" [email hidden]
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern

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If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go

Finland

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didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?

I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good

one. If

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you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering

the the

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hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty

damn

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good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really

good

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picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was

in a

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black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro,

reading

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a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.
Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays

with

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Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.

Who cares. Rebecca Twig is still looking great. If she rides masters
track, I'll pay to see her in Lycra again and start following women's racing
in depth. Did you get out for a ride, or are you just sitting there, bored
and horny, thinking about women's racing? God, I'm bored, too.

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From: "Sierraman" [email hidden]
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern

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If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go

Finland

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didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?

I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good

one. If

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you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering

the the

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hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty

damn

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good.

Bessette is very consistent, IMO, she is in the top 5 riders in the world,
if I stop to think a little I might have to bump her down to the top ten but
she is like I said, very consistent at giving great results in just about
anything she enters. However last year in the worlds she failed miseably in
both the TT and the road. In her interview she couldn't account for the bad
results except that she did her best. She was coming off a broken
collarbone.

Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really good

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picture of her.

Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might notice her twisted
buckteeth, which she needs to take some of her race earnings and head to the
specialists for either train tracks or some vaneers.

A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was in a

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black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro,

reading

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a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.

I saw a photo of Bessettes from last years race, not sure which summer
classic, but on the podium she was wearing something that looked like when
girls wrap towels around their waist on the beach. Kind of odd.

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Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays

with

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Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.

Jeanson is a no go this year, and if she fails at the games, she could end
up with a zero year. Actually her bad luck started last year at the worlds
and she hasn't produced any results since.

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Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn

good.

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Go Lyne

Yup, USA three out of top 4 in Tour de L'Aude. Luperini won the Tour De
Berne this year a short while back.

BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road race,
after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.

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Bill C

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BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage is
pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,

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after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.

Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish of
the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?

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BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours of coverage

is

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pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for the mens road

race,

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after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the
sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman was.
What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.

Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera at the finish

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the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?

Well, It seems what I got was from edited edition as interviews with Jeanson
and Bessette were mixed in. If edited then maybe there was better footage
that wasn't included in the final cut. Regardless what happened was
unfortunate. Actually what happened was the cameraman had the camera on the
spanish winner, and I guess he wasn't really on top of the action because he
turned the camera back too late to really catch the sprint for the other
places. They never did replay a nice follow through on the sprint for the
other finishers. If that was original edited version, it sucked compared to
the womens finish. In the womens coverage of the road race the CBC dropped
the ball and missed airing the first few laps of the womens road race but
when it came to the finish it was extremely well done. They replayed it over
and over, at different angles with photo finish and more. You couldn't of
asked for more, but when it came to the mens road race they dropped the ball
right at the end. Another point is if they used cameramen that have covered
other Pro cycling races or were the cameramen new to covering cycling races
but in view of what happened in the womens race, maybe the mens race was
botched in the editing room. I blame the cameraman based on what I saw him
do with the camera. It was a blunder, but like you say if there were other
angles of the footage, it's too bad it didn't make the final cut for airtime
or reruns.

The final of the Womens race was one of most exciting race finishes I have
ever seen. Longo broke away early and stayed out and extended her lead.
Finally Cooke panicked and took up the chase. When Cooke tired she became
angry when others wouldn't take up the chase. Things were chaotic because
all the girls would't work together in the chase. This added to Longos lead.
Finally Melchers took up the chase, and twice she lead the charge up the
climbs cutting lead down. Again Cooke took the lead and then finally again
Melchers. The five girls in the break were going balls to the walls,
Melchers, Lungskog, Cooke, Olga, Rasa I think. They caught Longo at the
final corner. Longo gave it all she has, she was flying but it wasn't enough
as the Top girls were too strong. Coming out of the Corner Melchers started
the sprint early and only Lungskog could catch her. Cooke was unable to
catch up. At the last moment Lunkskog lunged over towards Melchers and
caught her wheel briefly before powering forward at the last instance to
beat Melchers. Like last year I understand Melchers filed a protest as it
seems Lungskog and Melchers always seems to be joined at the hip at the
finish.

Anyway, here's the clip! This is cool finish!

10 megs

http://216.219.161.193/temp/Worlds-2003-End-Sprint.mpg

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From: "Sierraman" [email hidden]
Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM Eastern

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If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I wonder why Go

Finland

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didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that Luperini was
favored to make a big effort there?

I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any excuse is a good

one. If

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you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering section. Considering

the the

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hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th, currently, is pretty

damn

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good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a really

good

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picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was

in a

Quoted message said:

black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so exotic and Euro,

reading

Quoted message said:

a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image", but it worked.
Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long as she stays

with

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Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not sure how she does
without the handlers.
Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn

good.

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Go Lyne
Bill C

Here's a photo of Bessette contesting the sprint with Luperini in the Tour
De Berne.

http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/files/lyne3may04/lyss_sprint.jpg

http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/may3lyne.html

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After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just have been doing a

bit

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more work, and might just be in better shape than we all thought.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/may04/may21news2
I wish that I thought Jan was doing the same.
Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more totally dominant
performance just to make his case, then go home and play with Sheryl.

Here's a clue Bill - he beat Chris Horner on Bald Mountain. If that didn't
tell you something about his condition I don't know what would.

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After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just have been doing a

bit

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more work, and might just be in better shape than we all thought.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/may04/may21news2
I wish that I thought Jan was doing the same.
Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more totally dominant
performance just to make his case, then go home and play with Sheryl.
Bill C

He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks like sub 6% bodyfat,
anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel King, Jan.

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He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks like sub 6%

bodyfat,

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anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel King, Jan.

Judging by looks can be deceiving.

First, probably at least 70% of the peloton is sub 6% bodyfat.

Second, if the skinfold/caliper method is used, your bodyfat is not directly
related to the measurements. (Going into Al Bundy mode) 10 years ago when I
was on the US pursuit team and we had a month long training camp in
Australia, by the end of the camp I had the lowest sum of skin thickness by
measuring 7 sites. However, when factoring in age I was only mid pack
because I was the oldest (about 12 years older than a couple of they other
guys). Supposedly more fat is attached to your organs as you get older. I
don't know if the tables are specifically for endurance athletes or just the
general population, though.

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He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks like sub 6%
bodyfat, anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel King, Jan.

Judging by looks can be deceiving.

Perhaps I'm being deceived but at the Tour Formerly Known As The Midi
Libre LANCE is looking kinda sleek if you know what I mean and I'm sure
that you do.

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Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might notice her twisted
buckteeth, which she needs to take some of her race earnings and head to the
specialists for either train tracks or some vaneers.

Yeah, but she could make it work for her, like the actor Steve Buscemi.

Steve

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He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks like sub 6%
bodyfat, anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel King, Jan.

Judging by looks can be deceiving.

Perhaps I'm being deceived but at the Tour Formerly Known As The Midi
Libre LANCE is looking kinda sleek if you know what I mean and I'm sure
that you do.

Well, Mick Jagger still looks sleek. It's not the package, but the aging
process inside that will matter the most come July. Still an open question.

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From: "Sierraman" [email hidden]
Date: 5/21/2004 11:01 PM Eastern

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Here's a photo of Bessette contesting the sprint with Luperini in the Tour
De Berne.

http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/files/lyne3may04/lyss_sprint.jpg

http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/may3lyne.html

Cool, thanks. I hadn't checked Tim's site in ages since it wasn't being
updated. Nice new redesign and current news.
Thanks again.
Bill C

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Supposedly more fat is attached to your organs as you get older. I
don't know if the tables are specifically for endurance athletes or just

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general population, though.

Are you trying to tell us about your fat head?

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After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just have been doing a

bit

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more work, and might just be in better shape than we all thought.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/may04/may21news2

Yes, he really does look fantastic. I just hope he is not the same dominate
force that he has been in the past. It's like the Lakers. It's not much
fun watching them squash everyone during the playoffs.

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I wish that I thought Jan was doing the same.

Yes, I hope Jan proves to be a worthy adversary (read: near nemesis) to
Lance this year. I wouldn't mind watching another 2003 Tour unfold this
year. I have a feeling that Lance is going to crush everyone under his
SPD-SL cleats, tho.

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Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more totally dominant
performance just to make his case, then go home and play with Sheryl.
Bill C