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  1. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified that it's
    Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

  2. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified that
    it's Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

    Question, can a national federation say whether or not it has been contacted
    in this matter? Several have said they haven't been notified--USAC, France,
    Italy, Australia. Of the top ten in the Tour, that leaves Menchov and
    Kloden as the likely candidates, although it is disturbing that there has
    been no statement from Landis or Phonak.

  3. On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:15:30 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified that it's
    Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

    As in a "liar" ?

    It's not looking very good is it...

    1. Landis has gone AWOL

    ". "According to sources in France, the rider concerned is said to
    have tested positive for testosterone after last Thursday’s stage
    through the Alps to Morzine"

    ". "“I will say that I am extremely angry and feel very let down by
    this,” McQuaid said. “The credibility of the sport is at stake. "

    Clearly it's not Leppy or Moncoutier we're talking about here is
    it..The fact that the UCI chose to disclose this news is most likely
    to prepare the opinion.

    Wouldn't it be ironic that Landis doped and got caught and that
    Ullrich and Basso couldn't race and didn't test positive ?

  4. B. Lafferty said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified that
    it's Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

    Question, can a national federation say whether or not it has been contacted
    in this matter? Several have said they haven't been notified--USAC, France,
    Italy, Australia. Of the top ten in the Tour, that leaves Menchov and
    Kloden as the likely candidates, although it is disturbing that there has
    been no statement from Landis or Phonak.


    To repeat what I wrote in another thread: German, Swiss and Austrian
    federations also denied being contacted. That (swiss) eliminates Kloeden.

  5. Keith ha scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't it be ironic that Landis doped and got caught and that
    Ullrich and Basso couldn't race and didn't test positive ?

    Yes, indeed.
    Still that was a good show.
    Wasn't it?

    Sergio
    Pisa

  6. So how long until someone claims it is all a big French stitch-up? I'm
    sure someone's going to come out with that line..... !!

  7. :

    Quoted message said:

    So how long until someone claims it is all a big French stitch-up? I'm
    sure someone's going to come out with that line..... !!

    .....LOL....Some of my non-bike riding buddies who know zilch about the
    sport have already blamed the French.In fact after Landis won on Sunday
    they were already wondering aloud "wonder if them French are gonna
    claim he was on dope?"

  8. "Ernst Noch" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified that
    it's Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

    Question, can a national federation say whether or not it has been
    contacted in this matter? Several have said they haven't been
    notified--USAC, France, Italy, Australia. Of the top ten in the Tour,
    that leaves Menchov and Kloden as the likely candidates, although it is
    disturbing that there has been no statement from Landis or Phonak.


    To repeat what I wrote in another thread: German, Swiss and Austrian
    federations also denied being contacted. That (swiss) eliminates Kloeden.

    I put my money on Menchov or Schleck (Rasmussen or Boogerd also are
    possible).

  9. <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ....LOL....Some of my non-bike riding buddies who know zilch about the
    sport have already blamed the French.In fact after Landis won on Sunday
    they were already wondering aloud "wonder if them French are gonna
    claim he was on dope?"

    Actually, the french medias are surprinsgly quiet about this.No name have
    been given yet. If if it was Armstrong, they would be all over him right
    now, but they seem to like Landis (if it's really him)

  10. trg said:

    I put my money on Menchov or Schleck (Rasmussen or Boogerd also are
    possible).

    try Landis.... Phonak has confirmed it.

    (oh, no - forgot that acording to rbr neither USP/Discovery or Phonak
    riders do dope, regardeless of their teams trackrecord or testing
    positive)

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    PowerMac G5: 1.6GHz, 1,25GB RAM, 300+300GB SATA, 16xDVD DL, Bluetooth
    mus+tastatur, R9600PRO, iSight, eyeTV200 & LaCie Photon18Vision TFT.

  11. in message <[email hidden]>, trg

    (') said:

    "Ernst Noch" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    >


    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified
    > that
    > it's Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.

    Question, can a national federation say whether or not it has been
    contacted in this matter? Several have said they haven't been
    notified--USAC, France, Italy, Australia. Of the top ten in the
    Tour, that leaves Menchov and Kloden as the likely candidates,
    although it is disturbing that there has been no statement from
    Landis or Phonak.


    To repeat what I wrote in another thread: German, Swiss and Austrian
    federations also denied being contacted. That (swiss) eliminates
    Kloeden.

    I put my money on Menchov or Schleck (Rasmussen or Boogerd also are
    possible).

    Yup. Couldn't possibly be an American, could it? We all know it's the
    Europeans who cheat.

    Errmmm...

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

  12. "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    trg said:

    I put my money on Menchov or Schleck (Rasmussen or Boogerd also are
    possible).

    try Landis.... Phonak has confirmed it.

    (oh, no - forgot that acording to rbr neither USP/Discovery or Phonak
    riders do dope, regardeless of their teams trackrecord or testing
    positive)

    --

    Dumbass,

    It had nothing to do with any team.

    UCI said that the cyclist's federation had been contacted. USAC denied
    having been contacted. As did Italy, France, Belgium, Spain, Australia,
    Germany, Austria. Among the big name riders, that left Luxembourg (Schleck),
    Russia (Menchov), Netherlands (Boogerd), and Danmark (Rasmussen ).

    As Rick said to Louie,

    "I was misinformed."

  13. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, trg

    (') said:

    "Ernst Noch" <[email hidden]> a crit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    B. Lafferty wrote:
    > "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28910-2287959,00.html
    >>


    http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Primo_Piano/2006/07_Luglio/27/doping.shtml

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> All Landis and Phonak have to do is say they haven't been notified
    >> that
    >> it's Landis. Let's hope he isn't Tyler II.
    >
    > Question, can a national federation say whether or not it has been
    > contacted in this matter? Several have said they haven't been
    > notified--USAC, France, Italy, Australia. Of the top ten in the
    > Tour, that leaves Menchov and Kloden as the likely candidates,
    > although it is disturbing that there has been no statement from
    > Landis or Phonak.
    To repeat what I wrote in another thread: German, Swiss and Austrian
    federations also denied being contacted. That (swiss) eliminates
    Kloeden.

    I put my money on Menchov or Schleck (Rasmussen or Boogerd also are
    possible).

    Yup. Couldn't possibly be an American, could it? We all know it's the
    Europeans who cheat.

    Errmmm...

    --

    Dumbass,

    May I respectfully refer you to my prior answer, to wit:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/tree/browse_frm/thread/202e32d73e376704/4e21136f30a0e604?rnum=1&hl=en&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.bicycles.racing%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F202e32d73e376704%2Fe506b1511397d651%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3D%26rnum%3D1%26hl%3Den%26#doc_e506b1511397d651

    Referentially Yours,

  14. Quoted message said:

    Keith ha scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't it be ironic that Landis doped and got caught and that
    Ullrich and Basso couldn't race and didn't test positive ?

    Yes, indeed.
    Still that was a good show.
    Wasn't it?

    I've been assured by very peccable sources that it was a good show
    because it was clean.

  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, indeed.
    Still that was a good show.
    Wasn't it?

    Tim Lines said:

    I've been assured by very peccable sources that it was a good show
    because it was clean.

    Can't be a clean show though since they swore on tv.

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