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  1. Chris just been reading your guide to Ben Nevis/Glencoe area. Gave me a
    lot of new ideas for an area I thought I knew well. Particularly liked
    some of the suggested low level walks suitable for the all too often
    dreich days.
    Here is a question. I have it in mind, God knows where from, possibly
    Gwen Moffat's book (now that is a name not often mentioned these days)
    that there is a steep scramble/easy climb up the west side of Aonach
    Dubh from somewhere above the waterfall . Looking from the road one can
    see that the angle of the cliff is easier in the middle. Do you know
    anything about this one? If it exists it would make a great start to a
    complete traverse of the massif.

    --
    Len Trim
    [email hidden]

  2. In message <[email hidden]>, Leonard Trim
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Chris just been reading your guide to Ben Nevis/Glencoe area. Gave me a
    lot of new ideas for an area I thought I knew well. Particularly liked
    some of the suggested low level walks suitable for the all too often
    dreich days.
    Here is a question. I have it in mind, God knows where from, possibly
    Gwen Moffat's book (now that is a name not often mentioned these days)
    that there is a steep scramble/easy climb up the west side of Aonach
    Dubh from somewhere above the waterfall . Looking from the road one can
    see that the angle of the cliff is easier in the middle. Do you know
    anything about this one? If it exists it would make a great start to a
    complete traverse of the massif.


    Len, I don't know anything about that route I'm afraid. I did once do a
    winter climb up the front of Gear Aonach but I haven't taken tried
    ascending the west side of Aonach Dubh. I'll go and look at it next time
    I'm in the area.

    Noel Williams' Scrambles in Lochaber describes a number of routes up the
    west face of Aonach Dubh. The route up Dinner-Time Buttress could be the
    one you mean.

    I haven't heard Gwen Moffat mentioned in many years. I have a copy of
    her Space Below My Feet dating from 1977. I can't remember which routes
    are in it and there's no index.

    Glad to hear you're finding my guide useful.

    Chris

  3. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Len, I don't know anything about that route I'm afraid. I did once do a
    winter climb up the front of Gear Aonach but I haven't taken tried
    ascending the west side of Aonach Dubh. I'll go and look at it next time
    I'm in the area.

    Quoted message said:

    Noel Williams' Scrambles in Lochaber describes a number of routes up the
    west face of Aonach Dubh. The route up Dinner-Time Buttress could be the
    one you mean.
    I haven't heard Gwen Moffat mentioned in many years. I have a copy of
    her Space Below My Feet dating from 1977. I can't remember which routes
    are in it and there's no index.

    Quoted message said:

    Glad to hear you're finding my guide useful.

    Quoted message said:

    Chris

    Dinner-Time Buttress; now that rings a bell! Must go and check out
    Noel's book.

    --
    Len Trim
    [email hidden]

  4. Leonard Trim said:

    Gwen Moffat's book

    Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  5. The message <[email hidden]>
    from SteveO contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    ISTR she also wrote a book called 'Two Star Red'. No idea which came first.

    --
    Roger Chapman

  6. Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> wrote in news:+
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I haven't heard Gwen Moffat mentioned in many years. I have a copy of
    her Space Below My Feet dating from 1977. I can't remember which routes
    are in it and there's no index.


    Hmm - didn't find it on a train, did you ;-) I really enjoyed that book but
    left it at Waterloo around 1977. Must pick up a secondhand copy sometime.

    Stuart

  7. In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from SteveO contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    ISTR she also wrote a book called 'Two Star Red'. No idea which came first.


    She wrote quite a few books, many of them detective stories.

    Space Below My Feet is her climbing autobiography and has many
    interesting stories of the British hills in the forties and fifties. She
    was the first British woman to become a qualified mountain guide.

  8. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    ISTR she also wrote a book called 'Two Star Red'. No idea which came first.


    She wrote quite a few books, many of them detective stories.

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet is her climbing autobiography and has many
    interesting stories of the British hills in the forties and fifties. She
    was the first British woman to become a qualified mountain guide.

    I couldn't remember what was in what but ISTR that Two Star Red wasn't
    fiction. She was married for a time to a Mountain Rescue bloke (Johnnie
    Lees?) and it might have covered that period of her Life.

    I have a book published in 1958 containing photos of 4 "British
    professional mountain guides". Three men leading on steep rock and Gwen
    leading on steep snow (looking very attractive). If she is still alive
    she must be in her 80s. Anyone know?

    --
    Roger Chapman

  9. In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >Gwen Moffat's book

    > Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    > cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    ISTR she also wrote a book called 'Two Star Red'. No idea which came first.


    She wrote quite a few books, many of them detective stories.

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet is her climbing autobiography and has many
    interesting stories of the British hills in the forties and fifties. She
    was the first British woman to become a qualified mountain guide.

    I couldn't remember what was in what but ISTR that Two Star Red wasn't
    fiction. She was married for a time to a Mountain Rescue bloke (Johnnie
    Lees?) and it might have covered that period of her Life.

    I have a book published in 1958 containing photos of 4 "British
    professional mountain guides". Three men leading on steep rock and Gwen
    leading on steep snow (looking very attractive). If she is still alive
    she must be in her 80s. Anyone know?

    According to this website her last book was published in 2002 and she's
    written 32 books, starting with Space Below My Feet:

    http://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/gmoffat.html

    She seems to be based in the States now and a number of her books are
    about journeys there.

    Two Star Red is obviously a rare and quite valuable book. Abe books has
    two for sale - at $125 and $354.51. It seems to be subtitled A Book
    About RAF Mountain Rescue. Johnnie Lees appears in Space Below My Feet,
    ISTR.

  10. In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >Gwen Moffat's book

    > Space Below My Feet; another one for the list o'phile list of lists, a
    > cracking book; same ilk as Tom Patey

    ISTR she also wrote a book called 'Two Star Red'. No idea which came first.


    She wrote quite a few books, many of them detective stories.

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet is her climbing autobiography and has many
    interesting stories of the British hills in the forties and fifties. She
    was the first British woman to become a qualified mountain guide.

    I couldn't remember what was in what but ISTR that Two Star Red wasn't
    fiction. She was married for a time to a Mountain Rescue bloke (Johnnie
    Lees?) and it might have covered that period of her Life.

    I have a book published in 1958 containing photos of 4 "British
    professional mountain guides". Three men leading on steep rock and Gwen
    leading on steep snow (looking very attractive). If she is still alive
    she must be in her 80s. Anyone know?

    According to this website her last book was published in 2002 and she's
    written 32 books, starting with Space Below My Feet:

    http://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/gmoffat.html

    She seems to be based in the States now and a number of her books are
    about journeys there.

    Two Star Red is obviously a rare and quite valuable book. Abe books has
    two for sale - at $125 and $354.51. It seems to be subtitled A Book
    About RAF Mountain Rescue. Johnnie Lees appears in Space Below My Feet,
    ISTR.

  11. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Two Star Red is obviously a rare and quite valuable book. Abe books has
    two for sale - at $125 and $354.51. It seems to be subtitled A Book
    About RAF Mountain Rescue. Johnnie Lees appears in Space Below My Feet,
    ISTR.

    I read that and Space beneath my feet a very long time ago and I can
    remember very little of what was in either book and nothing to point to
    one in preference to the other.

    I may be getting mixed up but ISTR that Johnnie Lees was the senior NCO
    of one of the Scottish RAF teams. We had him as a guest at a Club Dinner
    one year (circa 1970).

    --
    Roger Chapman

  12. Chris Townsend said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    She wrote quite a few books, many of them detective stories.

    Really?
    (not that I'm doubting what you say, just interesting, is all)

    Quoted message said:

    Space Below My Feet is her climbing autobiography and has many
    interesting stories of the British hills in the forties and fifties. She
    was the first British woman to become a qualified mountain guide.

    🙂

    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  13. Chris Townsend said:
    Quoted message said:

    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    >> >Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    According to this website her last book was published in 2002

    Very interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/gmoffat.html

    OOH ER!! PW don't look!!!

    "Retribution:

    In a remote Lakeland dale white-washed cottages nestle in lush
    gardens, sheep roam the fells and the Rutting Beck runs crystal clear:
    in short, a Cumbrian paradise. But Melinda Pink, visiting on holiday,
    knows better. She knows that yard-thick walls do more than shelter
    their occupants from the elements; they can also muffle screams. For
    there are serpents in paradise; dead sheep go unburied, tax dodges and
    benefit fraud are rife; the proprietor of the tearooms falls prey to a
    rumour of salmonella poisoning -and then the village busybody is found
    caught up in the jetsam of the flooded beck."

    nematodes are mentioned on... page 14, I reckon!
    ;-)

    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  14. In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Two Star Red is obviously a rare and quite valuable book. Abe books has
    two for sale - at $125 and $354.51. It seems to be subtitled A Book
    About RAF Mountain Rescue. Johnnie Lees appears in Space Below My Feet,
    ISTR.

    I read that and Space beneath my feet a very long time ago and I can
    remember very little of what was in either book and nothing to point to
    one in preference to the other.

    I may be getting mixed up but ISTR that Johnnie Lees was the senior NCO
    of one of the Scottish RAF teams. We had him as a guest at a Club Dinner
    one year (circa 1970).


    After the RAF he became Warden Service Officer with the Peak District
    National Park. This is covered in Space Below My Feet I think.

    Johnnie Lees died in 2002. I found a few web references:

    http://www.unity.edu/facultypages/womersley/people.htm

    http://www.peakdistrict.org/auth/services/rangers/history.htm

  15. SteveO said:
    Chris Townsend said:
    Quoted message said:

    from Chris Townsend <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    > >> >Gwen Moffat's book

    Quoted message said:

    According to this website her last book was published in 2002

    Very interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/gmoffat.html

    OOH ER!! PW don't look!!!

    "Retribution:

    In a remote Lakeland dale white-washed cottages nestle in lush
    gardens, sheep roam the fells and the Rutting Beck runs crystal clear:
    in short, a Cumbrian paradise. But Melinda Pink, visiting on holiday,
    knows better. She knows that yard-thick walls do more than shelter
    their occupants from the elements; they can also muffle screams. For
    there are serpents in paradise; dead sheep go unburied, tax dodges and
    benefit fraud are rife; the proprietor of the tearooms falls prey to a
    rumour of salmonella poisoning -and then the village busybody is found
    caught up in the jetsam of the flooded beck."

    nematodes are mentioned on... page 14, I reckon!

    Oo errr!

    get this...

    "Underage sex and extramarital affairs are not confined to the inner
    cities. Against a backdrop of a stark and beautiful countryside is
    woven a thread of love and lust"
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  16. Don't you love the ways threads develop?

    --
    Len Trim
    [email hidden]

  17. Leonard Trim wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Don't you love the ways threads develop?

    Indeed. And with that in mind, let me give you the summary plot of how this
    thread, and indeed the group, is going to develop over the next few months:

    Passions rise on urw in January with the discovery of a new GPS attachment
    for cameras. An outbreak of a new computer worm, called a nematode, causes
    havoc when it's found to randomly add and delete munros to people's lists.
    In February a new poster causes crisis when he suggests that hidden satanic
    messages can be found in a popular new backpacking book, believed to be
    'wear jeans when walking, you know you want to', 'heavy gear is good gear'
    and 'it's all [censored]'. Owners of kettley things despair as metal fatigue sets
    in and in Aberfeldy, the weather forecast isn't the only thing that's
    turning up the heat. In March an older member of urw is arrested after
    climbing an under-height Marilyn - 'the map told me she was a little above
    the limit', he later sobs. A new bothy opens in the Cairngorms, and as the
    first disturbing reports of mis-use of sleeping mats and mountain caps come
    in from Anne Sochach's Lairig Ghru bothy and leisure palace development,
    postings on urw drop to a new low. 'We just fancied a weekend in Scotland'
    several regular posters later comment. The better spring weather sees
    fashions change, with some urw posters in favour of Ronhill's new 'Anne
    Sochach' range of walking fetish gear, including hotpants, stockings made
    from ronhill tracksters and false beards, with others violently against -
    until the pictures of one regular contributor are published, when opinions
    unite - but which way?

    T.
    More and stronger tablets please nurse...and one of those comfy jackets
    too...

  18. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:23:15 -0000, "Tony Buckley"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't you love the ways threads develop?

    Indeed. And with that in mind, let me give you the summary plot of how this
    thread, and indeed the group, is going to develop over the next few months:

    Passions rise on urw in January with the discovery of a new GPS attachment
    for cameras. An outbreak of a new computer worm, called a nematode, causes
    havoc when it's found to randomly add and delete munros to people's lists.
    In February a new poster causes crisis when he suggests that hidden satanic
    messages can be found in a popular new backpacking book, believed to be
    'wear jeans when walking, you know you want to', 'heavy gear is good gear'
    and 'it's all [censored]'. Owners of kettley things despair as metal fatigue sets
    in and in Aberfeldy, the weather forecast isn't the only thing that's
    turning up the heat. In March an older member of urw is arrested after
    climbing an under-height Marilyn - 'the map told me she was a little above
    the limit', he later sobs. A new bothy opens in the Cairngorms, and as the
    first disturbing reports of mis-use of sleeping mats and mountain caps come
    in from Anne Sochach's Lairig Ghru bothy and leisure palace development,
    postings on urw drop to a new low. 'We just fancied a weekend in Scotland'
    several regular posters later comment. The better spring weather sees
    fashions change, with some urw posters in favour of Ronhill's new 'Anne
    Sochach' range of walking fetish gear, including hotpants, stockings made
    from ronhill tracksters and false beards, with others violently against -
    until the pictures of one regular contributor are published, when opinions
    unite - but which way?

    T.
    More and stronger tablets please nurse...and one of those comfy jackets
    too...


    Lol! Superb :-)))

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \

  19. Tony Buckley said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't you love the ways threads develop?

    Indeed. And with that in mind, let me give you the summary plot of how this
    thread, and indeed the group, is going to develop over the next few months:

    <snip>

    Thank you!

    You've just saved me having to spend most of my free time glued to my
    computer! I'll pop back again in March and you can tell me what's
    going to happen in the Summer.

    Judith

  20. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    Indeed. And with that in mind, let me give you the summary plot of how this
    thread, and indeed the group, is going to develop over the next few months:

    Passions rise on urw in January with the discovery of a new GPS attachment
    for cameras. An outbreak of a new computer worm, called a nematode, causes
    havoc when it's found to randomly add and delete munros to people's lists.


    Nurse! It's time for Tony's dried frog pills!
    --
    All the best to everyone in 2005
    - Fran

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