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  1. BEWARE!

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    I didn't check which one, but Norton picked it up and quarantined it.

    :-(
    --
    Gordon

  2. Gordon said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    I didn't check which one, but Norton picked it up and quarantined it.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I received an email earlier telling me that an email I'd sent (from my wilderness address) was
    infected with a virus and hadn't been delivered.

    I sent no such email. My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  3. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Gordon said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    I didn't check which one, but Norton picked it up and quarantined it.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I received an email earlier telling me that an email I'd sent (from my wilderness address) was
    infected with a virus and hadn't been delivered.

    I sent no such email. My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    Same here! Had these warnings for at least 4 days! I've never sent any Email with an attachment
    containing a virus. Plus my computers are clean also.

    Just ignore and delete IMO.

    --
    Craven Birds

    Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks. cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.comcravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com
    mysite.freeserve.comcravenbirds

  4. Craven Birds said:

    Just ignore and delete IMO.

    So it's not just me then.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  5. Following up to Gordon

    Quoted message said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    Its this navaad virus or whatever its called. Paul, did you send me an email called Emerson, Lake
    and Palmer? I suspect not. I have been getting lots of infected email "from" organisations I deal
    with, they are not the sort of places that would not be running protection, so i'm not sure how the
    virus writer made the connection between me and them?
    --
    Mike Reid Virtual Thames walk "fellwalk.co.ukthamesphoto.htm"

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Gordon said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    I didn't check which one, but Norton picked it up and quarantined it.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I received an email earlier telling me that an email I'd sent (from my wilderness address) was
    infected with a virus and hadn't been delivered.

    I sent no such email. My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    Paul
    --

    I get bouncebacks like that all the time telling me I'm spamming viruses. It's a consequence of your
    email being public, it's put on as the originator address.

    I've even been blacklisted by some addresses and had to write to the webmaster at the company
    concerned.

    I've even got a spam message to me, from .... me.

    In my mind this is worse than spam, it's making me out to be a spammer and that's bad for business
    because many people don't know that the "from" field is easy to forge.

    Bernard Hill Braeburn Software braeburn.co.ukbraeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Reid <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Following up to Gordon

    Quoted message said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    Its this navaad virus or whatever its called. Paul, did you send me an email called Emerson, Lake
    and Palmer? I suspect not. I have been getting lots of infected email "from" organisations I deal
    with, they are not the sort of places that would not be running protection, so i'm not sure how the
    virus writer made the connection between me and them?

    Someone has both addresses on their machine is one possibility.

    Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland

  8. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:59:50 +0000, Gordon <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    BEWARE!

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    This sounds like the MyDoom virus or a variant. Fakes the from address. Full details at
    us-cert.govTA04 028A.html

    Andrew

    aushiker.comaushiker.com - Aushiker: Hiking in Western Australia 2003 Bibbulmun Track End to Ender
    President, Perth Bushwalkers Club - perthbushwalkers.asn.auperthbushwalkers.asn.au

  9. Paul Saunders wrote

    Quoted message said:

    My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    Dead bounces like this happen because the spammers have to populate the 'From' field in the email
    with a valid email domain address to get through Mail Transfer Agents that are RFC821 compliant. The
    'To' field is populated with a target address which may or may not be valid. If it is invalid then
    the mail bounces back to the 'From' address. This makes it seem that you are getting returned mail
    from mail you never sent.

    Chris

  10. On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:17:43 +0800, Aushiker <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Gordon said:


    BEWARE!

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    This sounds like the MyDoom virus or a variant. Fakes the from address. Full details at us-cert.govTA04
    028A.html

    or probably a better link is us-cert.govSA04 028A.html

    Andrew

    aushiker.comaushiker.com - Aushiker: Hiking in Western Australia 2003 Bibbulmun Track End to Ender
    President, Perth Bushwalkers Club - perthbushwalkers.asn.auperthbushwalkers.asn.au

  11. Reid said:

    Paul, did you send me an email called Emerson, Lake and Palmer? I suspect not.

    I did actually (I was rather drunk at the time). Sorry, I forgot all about it, I'll write to you
    again about that.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  12. Aushiker said:

    This sounds like the MyDoom virus or a variant.

    Yep, that's the one.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  13. Bernard Hill said:

    I've even been blacklisted by some addresses and had to write to the webmaster at the company
    concerned.

    I sent out one email recently and it was returned, saying that IP address had been put in a
    blackhole, whatever that means.

    Quoted message said:

    I've even got a spam message to me, from .... me.

    I've had quite a few of those.

    Quoted message said:

    In my mind this is worse than spam, it's making me out to be a spammer and that's bad for business
    because many people don't know that the "from" field is easy to forge.

    Yes, I agree, but paradoxically, the more this sort of thing happens the more of a problem it will
    become and hopefully the more likely some action will be taken to deal with it.

    I've never agreed with the idea of policing the internet in the past, but things are getting out of
    hand with spam and viruses these days. Something needs to be done about it before the internet
    grinds to a halt, choking on the sheer quantity of garbage going through the system.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  14. "Jiffy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, what's happening here is that person A's PC is infected. Now, the


    virus

    Quoted message said:

    on A's computer sends out copies of itself to everyone on A's address


    book.

    Quoted message said:

    The sneaky bit is that the virus will put a name in the address book as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    sender. So, B receives an infected email that looks like it's from C but


    is

    Quoted message said:

    really from A. Hope that makes sense.

    Cheers, Jiffy

    That makes sense;-) Better still, I'd prefer people to use a bit of sense and not open attachments
    that they are not 100% sure are safe. Easy really unless prats do it to cause an hindrance!

    I cannot understand all this cr*p talked about viruses!

    --
    Craven Birds

    Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks. cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.comcravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com
    mysite.freeserve.comcravenbirds

  15. Remember a lot of viruses fake send headers... I got plagued during one outbreak by irate
    bounces......

    Richard Webb

  16. Paul Saunders said:

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I received an email earlier telling me that an email I'd sent (from my wilderness address) was
    infected with a virus and hadn't been delivered.

    I sent no such email. My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    It is probably someone that you know that is infected, the vrus scans the address book and picks out
    a name to appear in the from field, it then proagates itself.

    The worst one I have had, was when someone spammaed a load of people using me in the from line. My
    how I laughed as thousands of undeliverable e-mail 'came back to me'. No complaints or flames
    though, whic is not what I would have expected.

    --

    Please take the [censored] out of deemon when sending an e-mail.

  17. Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Gordon said:

    I just received an email faked to appear to come from Paul's address with a payload!

    I didn't check which one, but Norton picked it up and quarantined it.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I received an email earlier telling me that an email I'd sent (from my wilderness address) was
    infected with a virus and hadn't been delivered.

    I sent no such email. My machine is not infected and I'm not sending out viruses.

    Paul

    There's a lot of it about! :-(

    I had an email from a guy I have known since we first got out ham licences back in '63, and who has
    sent the odd joke or novelty in the past. I opened one a couple of weeks ago and got Bbeagle!

    Got rid of it and cleaned up the register file into which it plonks a couple of H_KEY lines.
    --
    Gordon

  18. Craven Birds said:

    That makes sense;-) Better still, I'd prefer people to use a bit of sense and not open attachments
    that they are not 100% sure are safe.

    Easy for knowlegeable computer users to say. It's the newbies who aren't aware of these things, and
    there are lots of them about.

    I have a friend who's had a computer for years and he still doesn't use a firewall or a virus
    checker. Whenever I mention it to him he dismisses them, saying he has no need for them.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  19. Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Craven Birds said:

    That makes sense;-) Better still, I'd prefer people to use a bit of sense and not open
    attachments that they are not 100% sure are safe.

    Easy for knowlegeable computer users to say. It's the newbies who aren't aware of these things, and
    there are lots of them about.

    I have a friend who's had a computer for years and he still doesn't use a firewall or a virus
    checker. Whenever I mention it to him he dismisses them, saying he has no need for them.


    Hands up anyone who has NEVER opened an attachment from an old friend who has sent various
    attachments over the years, without checking back with them first. Yeaah, ok, not recently. ;-)
    --
    Gordon

  20. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Craven Birds said:

    That makes sense;-) Better still, I'd prefer people to use a bit of sense and not open
    attachments that they are not 100% sure are safe.

    Easy for knowlegeable computer users to say. It's the newbies who aren't aware of these things,
    and there are lots of them about.

    I have a friend who's had a computer for years and he still doesn't use a firewall or a virus
    checker. Whenever I mention it to him he dismisses them, saying he has no need for them.

    Lol, A first rate Pr*t and a lot of office workers! in business. <sigh> After saying that it's the
    bl**ding IT technicians fault who maintain the systems :-(

    CB

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