Warm, Safe Bicycle Communities

cenorthamerica wrote -

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Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Sydney is nice pretty much year round and our current prime minister wants
us to be the 53rd state (or whatever they are up to).

Get quite a few riders from Seattle here in your winter who find not riding
in the rain strange at first.

Its a long flight though. best, Andrew

Your temperature range pretty much limits you the West Coast of the US.
Jim
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Sydney. Yes that seems like a nice place. Is food as diverse as it is
in the US and Europe? how expensive is it? How much does the average
apartment cost?

Andrew Price said:

cenorthamerica wrote -

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Sydney is nice pretty much year round and our current prime minister wants
us to be the 53rd state (or whatever they are up to).

Get quite a few riders from Seattle here in your winter who find not riding
in the rain strange at first.

Its a long flight though. best, Andrew

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

San Diego is about it, even for California. Only rarely does it go above
or below those two marks. It is getting built up into a big conglomerate
city though so if country riding is your thing you have to go about 15
miles east of the ocean, at least. I lived there in 1969-1970 and there
was a lot of downtown traffic then, don't know about now.
Bill

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Warm and safe are pretty difficult to achieve. Southern US cities/towns
aren't usually known for their bicycle friendliness. I've heard good things
about Gainesville, Florida. It's a college town so bikes are pretty
accepted, but the traffic is bad and the crime rate is not good.

Andrew Price said:

cenorthamerica wrote -

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

I don't think you'll find temperatures that stay within those bounds
in the continental US. Maybe Hawaii. Key West Florida would be the
closest... I used to live there, and remember the abject horror over
the fact the temperature dropped to 42 once. It doesn't go (much)
above 90 either, but the humidity makes it feel hotter.

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Sydney is nice pretty much year round and our current prime minister wants
us to be the 53rd state (or whatever they are up to).

I lived in Sydney too, and it's a fantastic city (as cities go...),
but I'd stop WAY short of calling it a "bicycling community". Most of
the roads are ill-suited to road biking, though there are some great
off-road trails.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Bill Baka said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

San Diego is about it, even for California. Only rarely does it go above
or below those two marks. It is getting built up into a big conglomerate
city though so if country riding is your thing you have to go about 15
miles east of the ocean, at least. I lived there in 1969-1970 and there
was a lot of downtown traffic then, don't know about now.
Bill

That was my thinking as well. Even here in south Florida, it can drop
below 50, and it often goes above 90, plus there is the humidity. So on
an average summer day the heat index or "feels like" temp is often
somewhere around 110.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/

Ken C. M. said:

Bill Baka said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

San Diego is about it, even for California. Only rarely does it go
above or below those two marks. It is getting built up into a big
conglomerate city though so if country riding is your thing you have
to go about 15 miles east of the ocean, at least. I lived there in
1969-1970 and there was a lot of downtown traffic then, don't know
about now.
Bill

That was my thinking as well. Even here in south Florida, it can drop
below 50, and it often goes above 90, plus there is the humidity. So on
an average summer day the heat index or "feels like" temp is often
somewhere around 110.

Ken

I could have said Fort Bragg, on the coast north of S.F. where it seems
to be about 60-65F all the time, summer or winter. Florida has a lot
more humidity than Ca. for some reason and San Diego just seems to have
a nice balance. Just don't ever fly into their airport since the planes
go over houses at treetop level then dive at the end of the mountain to
make it down to the runway. Good way to lose composure.
Bill

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

How about somewhere around Nice? Nice Mediterranean climate and good
food. Traffic is a bit heavy along the coast but it is fairly light
inland and French drivers tend to be quite considerate of bicycles.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

Nice sounds good but the winters can be chilly, wet and long. Plus the
summers don't always get hot, which I like. The roads inland might be
ok but there's lots of hills. Still it is safe and the weather overall
is nice (did the word nice come from Nice?) and food should be good.
Thanks.

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Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Santa Barbara, CA is pretty nice (not Nice - though they have a part called
the Riviera for its Mediterranean look and fell...).
Temps are a bit colder than San Diego, and when it rains for 5 min
everything is flodded. But it's safe to ride (like most parts in California)
and there is a huge cycling scene (in the old days it wasn't uncommon to
spot Lance in the local club ride in January...). Also more commuters than
other places I know

bjorn

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

New Mexico has some nice towns, though I wouldn't recommend Albuquerque
(high crime area). Some towns such as Las Cruces are nondescript yet
surprisingly accommodating for cyclists. You won't find a lot of bike
paths, but the roads are lightly traveled in some places and you'll
actually have drivers wave to you (with all five fingers).

-JR

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Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Warm and safe are pretty difficult to achieve. Southern US cities/towns
aren't usually known for their bicycle friendliness. I've heard good things
about Gainesville, Florida. It's a college town so bikes are pretty
accepted, but the traffic is bad and the crime rate is not good.

Gets a lot colder than 50F in the winter in Gainesville. It's not South
Florida. The crime rate isn't great it isn't horrible either.

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

Warm and safe are pretty difficult to achieve. Southern US cities/towns
aren't usually known for their bicycle friendliness. I've heard good
things about Gainesville, Florida. It's a college town so bikes are
pretty accepted, but the traffic is bad and the crime rate is not good.

Gets a lot colder than 50F in the winter in Gainesville. It's not South
Florida. The crime rate isn't great it isn't horrible either.

But it's a mecca for bike thieves. I live southwest of G'ville on the gulf
coast, and the winter temps can hit the high 20s. No bike thievery worth
mentioning, though. I would imagine one could get by in Key West w/o a car,
but the drivers have a tendency to drunkenly run people over. Anybody know
about the desert Southwest(Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada)? Would seem to be a
pretty nice place, but I'm sure the crime rate is pretty high.

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Bill Baka said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.

San Diego is about it, even for California. Only rarely does it go above
or below those two marks. It is getting built up into a big conglomerate
city though so if country riding is your thing you have to go about 15
miles east of the ocean, at least. I lived there in 1969-1970 and there
was a lot of downtown traffic then, don't know about now.
Bill

That was my thinking as well. Even here in south Florida, it can drop
below 50, and it often goes above 90, plus there is the humidity. So on an
average summer day the heat index or "feels like" temp is often somewhere
around 110.

Ken--

Don't you like the humidity? Maybe I'm weird, but I do. Then again, I
grew up in south Lousiana, which is like the jungle. Humidity is
great---helps sweat out all the toxins! :-)

M

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Bill Baka said:

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>Does anyone know of any year round warm bicycle communties in the US or
>abroad? I would love it if the who city was filled with bike paths but
>this is probably not the case in the US. Temperature can't fall to less
>than 50F and can't go about 90F. Thanks.
>

San Diego is about it, even for California. Only rarely does it go above
or below those two marks. It is getting built up into a big conglomerate
city though so if country riding is your thing you have to go about 15
miles east of the ocean, at least. I lived there in 1969-1970 and there
was a lot of downtown traffic then, don't know about now.
Bill

That was my thinking as well. Even here in south Florida, it can drop
below 50, and it often goes above 90, plus there is the humidity. So on an
average summer day the heat index or "feels like" temp is often somewhere
around 110.

Ken--

Don't you like the humidity? Maybe I'm weird, but I do. Then again, I
grew up in south Lousiana, which is like the jungle. Humidity is
great---helps sweat out all the toxins! :-)

M

No Goose, I am NOT a great fan of humidity. I am used to it, but I don't
like it much. I would prefer a slightly drier climate.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/

Gooserider said:

Don't you like the humidity? Maybe I'm weird, but I do. Then again, I
grew up in south Lousiana, which is like the jungle. Humidity is
great---helps sweat out all the toxins! :-)

Smiley noted, but I've always felt like you don't really sweat more in
humidity (at a given skin surface temp.), it's just that it doesn't
evaporate. As such, it simply accumulates more. Having only spent an
appreciable amount of time in the Atlanta area, I wouldn't really be
able to compare to other environs. Thoughts?
\\paul

Paul Hobson said:

Gooserider said:

Don't you like the humidity? Maybe I'm weird, but I do. Then
again, I grew up in south Lousiana, which is like the jungle. Humidity
is great---helps sweat out all the toxins! :-)

Smiley noted, but I've always felt like you don't really sweat more in
humidity (at a given skin surface temp.), it's just that it doesn't
evaporate. As such, it simply accumulates more. Having only spent an
appreciable amount of time in the Atlanta area, I wouldn't really be
able to compare to other environs. Thoughts?
\\paul

Well I got to spend some time in Arizona, in the spring, and it was
nice. From what I have read, the humidity never goes over 40 or 45%, but
the daytime temps often get into the 110's. So like you said, here in FL
the sweat just accumulates on your skin, and doesn't evaporate, which is
what cools the human body. In a drier climate it evaporates more readily
so you "feel" a bit cooler given the same temps.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/

Gooserider said:

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Gets a lot colder than 50F in the winter in Gainesville. It's not South
Florida. The crime rate isn't great it isn't horrible either.

But it's a mecca for bike thieves.

Yep, and I was a victim. I had a bike stolen from in front of my dorm
back in 1975 (uh-oh, showing my age). This was pre-U bolt locks. Had to
start carrying it into the room each night, three floors up, with of
course no elevators.

The murder rate is about average, though the rape rate is high, probably
because it's a college town.