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  1. What do they all have to do with one another? Nothing! It's Non Sequitur Hour(tm)!

    1.) First day of real snow here, and already the bozos are dumping their SUVs into the ditches.
    Jonesy-spawn and SWMBO join your's truly for a little Tacos del Mar action 10 miles from home. Get
    out with full bellies, and the snow has come down pretty well, but that's not the problem - the
    temp has decreased 5 degrees, and what *was* wet and slushy is now icy. Even in an AWD vehicle,
    you have to take it easy on all-season (read "no-season"😉 tires. Yup, that's right - the snows,
    mounted on rims and ready to go, are sitting in the garage awating the jack and some beers. [censored].

    OK, so, take it slow. Except Mr. (Ms.) impatient behind me doesn't want to go 25mph - which is
    pretty fast for the conditions. Guy ahead in a late model Mustang begins to fish-tail and then
    obviously hammers on the brakes. I start giving the brake pedal the foot-activated massage, and the
    guy (gal) behind gives me the brights from 10 feet away. I'm looking for a place to ditch, so that I
    can miss the Mustang, who is obviously in over his/her head, AND stay out of the way of a 2.5 ton
    SUV, who is gonna run his/her high bumper right up my ass if the Mustang guy really gets wild (I
    have plenty of room still, but you never know what's gonna happen.)

    Just when I think I have it under control, dumbass behind me whips out to pass. Ah, [censored] - now
    what's gonna happen? I tell everyone to relax, 'cuz I'm gonna take the sheetmetal damage from going
    off-road in order to not get involved with the other two vehicles, and start planning my angle off
    the road so as to not get the car too messed up. Dumbass behind gets even with me and FINALLY
    notices Mustang is gonna go off-road. He/she hammers the brakes, and rotates the ass-end of the
    vehicle away from the road crown (opposite side of the road) and is on a vector to go off-road
    ass-first, away from us. I ease right to get the left wheels onto the dirt shoulder, and go past the
    Mustang, which went off nose-first. The SUV does indeed go off ass-first and slams hard into
    opposite ditch. I find a place to stop, so I can check on them, just as a local PD guy in a cruiser
    lights his blues and pulls over by the Mustang. OK, says I, and drive home.

    Didn't get to sleep until 3AM - I was way over-stimulated by that encounter - which lasted all of
    about 15 seconds in real time. Funny

    that's all there is to it.

    One might draw a conclusion over the relative risks of particular activities from this tale. Or one
    might not.

    2.) I live close to work, and sometimes I just climb on the bike and push a tall gear, just for the
    exercise. And because I can put the bike in my office and nobody yells at me. So, about a week
    ago, I'm riding along, and I look across the street, and there's a student riding a Walgoose FS
    bike-shaped toy, I smile to myself, because he's on the (double-wide) sidewalk, no helmet, in deck
    shoes. It's a sad smile - so many of the students are just clueless about riding bikes around,
    brand of bike notwithstanding. So, he comes to an intersection, and bunny-hops off the walk into
    the crosswalk, and I hear a big "SNAP!" I look more closely and his shock mount has come away from
    the downtube. I resist breaking out in full laughter, but only because I can see he's not hurt,
    and is clearly upset at breaking his toy. No need to heap insult upon injury. A six-inch bunny
    hop. Wow. "Best $90 I ever spent..."

    3.) The new bike was mostly identical to the beater bike in every dimension, which is why I've had
    such an easy time adjusting to the slight differences. But one thing that was a little different
    was the seat tube angle. OK, no big deal. Except that most seatposts nowadays have a slight rear
    offset for the clamp, which would also be no big deal - unless you need that 5mm of forward
    adjustment for your saddle. Guess what? Yup, had to get a new seatpost after doing another KOPS
    test. Well, not new - a nice Thomson Elite from eBay. Good way to save $40. I looked around, and
    it seems that Thomson is on the short list of seatposts that have a clamp without any rear offset.
    I was curious as to why there are so many posts with the clamp at sometimes over 1cm of rear
    offset - is it because people are buying frames that are too small? Now I have a 31.6mm x 350mm
    Answer Carbolite post to get rid of. Maybe I'll mate it to a Fuel frame some time next year.
    Unless someone wants to buy it... 😉

    And with that, Non Sequitur Hour(tm) wraps up 55 minutes early...
    --
    Jonesy

    E-mail me: rfjonsey *at* hotmail *dot* com

  2. Jonesy said:

    What do they all have to do with one another? Nothing! It's Non Sequitur Hour(tm)!

    1.) First day of real snow here, and already the bozos are dumping their SUVs into the ditches.

    When I lived in Boulder, I always associated snow, ditches and SUVs with recent transplants from S.
    California. Seemed pretty accurate.

    Quoted message said:

    Didn't get to sleep until 3AM - I was way over-stimulated by that encounter - which lasted all of
    about 15 seconds in real time. Funny

    Quoted message said:

    that's all there is to it.

    One might draw a conclusion over the relative risks of particular activities from this tale. Or
    one might not.

    None drawn here. I was recently discussing the realtive lack of gaurd rails on US 550 (The Silver
    Dollar Highway) between Purgatory and Ouray. Frightening really, considering the chances of snow,
    ice and a 1000 ft plunge to certain death. We had no conclusions from that either

    Quoted message said:

    2.) I live close to work, and sometimes I just climb on the bike and


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Wow. "Best $90 I ever spent..."

    Too bad really. I suspect that many people who buy those bikes really can't afford much more, and
    simply don't understand that they would be far better off waiting and saving to buy something used
    and better. And sometimes that bike is more than just a toy for the rider. Too bad.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Jonesy

    E-mail me: rfjonsey *at* hotmail *dot* com

    I like your style Jonesy, enough to believe you don't care if I like it.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

  3. How much for the set post I just bought a fuel I like the short stem .But a carbon post with some
    set back would be cool .send reply to [email hidden] with a price thanks

    --
    J/O Trailblazer At large !!

  4. [email hidden] (Jonesy) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    OK, so, take it slow. Except Mr. (Ms.) impatient behind me doesn't want to go 25mph - which is
    pretty fast for the conditions. Guy ahead in a late model Mustang begins to fish-tail and then
    obviously hammers on the brakes. I start giving the brake pedal the foot-activated massage, and
    the guy (gal) behind gives me the brights from 10 feet away. I'm looking for a place to ditch, so
    that I can miss the Mustang, who is obviously in over his/her head, AND stay out of the way of a
    2.5 ton SUV, who is gonna run his/her high bumper right up my ass if the Mustang guy really gets
    wild (I have plenty of room still, but you never know what's gonna happen.)

    Just when I think I have it under control, dumbass behind me whips out to pass. Ah, [censored] - now
    what's gonna happen? I tell everyone to relax, 'cuz I'm gonna take the sheetmetal damage from
    going off-road in order to not get involved with the other two vehicles, and start planning my
    angle off the road so as to not get the car too messed up. Dumbass behind gets even with me and
    FINALLY notices Mustang is gonna go off-road. He/she hammers the brakes, and rotates the ass-end
    of the vehicle away from the road crown (opposite side of the road) and is on a vector to go
    off-road ass-first, away from us. I ease right to get the left wheels onto the dirt shoulder, and
    go past the Mustang, which went off nose-first. The SUV does indeed go off ass-first and slams
    hard into opposite ditch. I find a place to stop, so I can check on them, just as a local PD guy
    in a cruiser lights his blues and pulls over by the Mustang. OK, says I, and drive home.

    Didn't get to sleep until 3AM - I was way over-stimulated by that encounter - which lasted all of
    about 15 seconds in real time. Funny how time dilates when you are in imminent danger.


    <snip>

    Been there, done that: groups.google.comgroups
    storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net

    JD

  5. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Jonesy) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Been there, done that:


    groups.google.comgroups
    awson.webtv.net

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    Whipsnakes are child's play. This would really give MV something to complain about.... ;-)
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

  6. Jonesy said:

    What do they all have to do with one another? Nothing! It's Non Sequitur Hour(tm)! OK, says I, and
    drive home.

    Didn't get to sleep until 3AM - I was way over-stimulated by that encounter - which lasted all of
    about 15 seconds in real time. Funny

    Quoted message said:

    that's all there is to it.

    The first snow is always amateur hour for the new CA immigrants around here. We have electronic AWD
    on my wife's rig, which is awesome, but it doesn't help a whole lot when idiots are determined to
    lose it. I load my pickup down in the back and drive carefully.

    Quoted message said:


    One might draw a conclusion over the relative risks of particular activities from this tale. Or
    one might not.

    2.) I live close to work, and sometimes I just climb on the bike and push a tall gear, just for
    the exercise.

    When I was a starving student at your 'hood, I had an old 3 spd bike that worked only in its highest
    gear, and I'd ride it to school from my apt way off campus. Note to DaveW, I was riding singlespeeds
    before they were so cool. Add to that aerobics & raquetball during the day, and karate every night,
    it was all I could do to take in enough calories.

    Let's say I outgrew that problem, shall we? heheh

    Paladin Thank God for The Coug, eh?

  7. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Been there, done that:


    groups.google.comgroups
    awson.webtv.net

    Quoted message said:

    "Hard braking with both brakes happened immediately and the next nanosecond told me to pitch the
    bike sideways to hit the deer broadside to minimize damage to both of us."

    I did *exactly* the same thing once when a car ran a redlight in fornt of me and my motorcycle.

    Serious time dilation.

    Pete

  8. Paladin <[email hidden]> had this to say "]news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:


    When I was a starving student at your 'hood, I had an old 3 spd bike that worked only in its
    highest gear, and I'd ride it to school from my apt way off campus. Note to DaveW, I was riding
    singlespeeds before they were so cool. Add to that aerobics & raquetball during the day, and
    karate every night, it was all I could do to take in enough calories.

    Let's say I outgrew that problem, shall we? heheh

    Paladin Thank God for The Coug, eh?

    Aww c'mon. did you think it was so cool at the time? 🙂

  9. Craig Brossman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jonesy said:

    What do they all have to do with one another? Nothing! It's Non Sequitur Hour(tm)!

    1.) First day of real snow here, and already the bozos are dumping their SUVs into the ditches.

    When I lived in Boulder, I always associated snow, ditches and SUVs with recent transplants from
    S. California. Seemed pretty accurate.

    Here's the totally weird thing - I grew up on the west side of the Cascades, which is a pretty mild
    climate. Hardly ever snows in the wintertime. Hardly ever suns in the summertime, either...

    Anywho, I was a snow newbie when I came over here, and I've never had a problem with it. I guess I
    just expect others to think about the conditions like I do. A stupid expectation, I guess.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2.) I live close to work, and sometimes I just climb on the bike and


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Wow. "Best $90 I ever spent..."

    Too bad really. I suspect that many people who buy those bikes really can't afford much more, and
    simply don't understand that they would be far better off waiting and saving to buy something used
    and better. And sometimes that bike is more than just a toy for the rider. Too bad.

    Yeah. They don't even think of going by one of the 5 relatively LBSs that exist 'round these parts.
    There's even a pawn shop that had some real MTBs sitting outside - older, to be sure, but still on
    par with the beater I took to McCall last summer. (Well, before I added a Bomber, but still...)

    Heck, the LBS right in town had an older Fisher, with a Judy, for $89.99. The drivetrain looked
    good, it had decent tires, and the saddle and grips were in really good shape. And now is the time
    of year to pick one up.

    The *mart stores are where those folks shop for the household [censored], and the bikes are where you can
    get an eye on them...

    "Man, if I had a bike, I wouldn't have to walk everywhere."

    Yup, BTDT. Except I went to a bike shop and dropped coin on a real MTB. Just about broke the bank,
    back before I had a car, made minimum wage as a "hydroceramic engineer" (trans.: laboratory
    dishwasher.)

    Quoted message said:

    I like your style Jonesy, enough to believe you don't care if I like it.

    Heh. I had to think about that a minute. I always appreciate sincere compliments from people,
    even those I have never met. But my self-worth is not wrapped up in whether or not folks like me
    on the Internet.

    Good call, Craig.
    --
    Jonesy

  10. Dave W <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Paladin <[email hidden]> had this to say "]news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:


    When I was a starving student at your 'hood, I had an old 3 spd bike that worked only in its
    highest gear, and I'd ride it to school from my apt way off campus. Note to DaveW, I was riding
    singlespeeds before they were so cool. Add to that aerobics & raquetball during the day, and
    karate every night, it was all I could do to take in enough calories.

    Let's say I outgrew that problem, shall we? heheh

    Paladin Thank God for The Coug, eh?

    Aww c'mon. did you think it was so cool at the time? 🙂

    Never gave it a thought. In Pullman, which is situated on 3 large hills, seemed everywhere you went
    was uphill. Good intro to standing and cranking. That red beater was transportation. Chain lube?
    Maintenance? What were those, again?

    paladin

  11. I see what you see every day rain or shine. I yell out go Speed Racer. I hope you hit something so I
    can really get a laugh.

    MTB Ride hard die free.

  12. JD,

    Speaking of been there done that..................... I have a new issue of ta-50 gear and a trip
    to Iraq coming in early December. The only good thing about this is a re-qual on the M4 and M9.

    Wonder if I can ship my bike out.........................

    Anybody out there you want me to look up?

    Marty

  13. [email hidden] (Fred Hinkson) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I yell out go Speed Racer. I hope you hit something so I can really get a laugh.

    I think I know to what you are referring here, Fred. That's hilarious because I tend to call idiot
    drivers like that "Speed Racer", though not yelling it. Unlike you though, I laugh instantaneously
    because I *know* they'll crash eventually.

    JD

  14. Paladin said:
    Jonesy said:

    What do they all have to do with one another? Nothing! It's Non Sequitur Hour(tm)! OK, says I,
    and drive home.

    Didn't get to sleep until 3AM - I was way over-stimulated by that encounter - which lasted all of
    about 15 seconds in real time. Funny

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that's all there is to it.

    The first snow is always amateur hour for the new CA immigrants around here. We have electronic
    AWD on my wife's rig, which is awesome, but it doesn't help a whole lot when idiots are determined
    to lose it. I load my pickup down in the back and drive carefully.

    Quoted message said:


    One might draw a conclusion over the relative risks of particular activities from this tale. Or
    one might not.

    2.) I live close to work, and sometimes I just climb on the bike and push a tall gear, just for
    the exercise.

    When I was a starving student at your 'hood, I had an old 3 spd bike that worked only in its
    highest gear, and I'd ride it to school from my apt way off campus. Note to DaveW, I was riding
    singlespeeds before they were so cool. Add to that aerobics & raquetball during the day, and
    karate every night, it was all I could do to take in enough calories.

    Let's say I outgrew that problem, shall we? heheh

    Paladin Thank God for The Coug, eh?

    Ah ... The Coug. I haven't been to Pullman since I graduated in 1989, it is not really on the way
    to anything.

    How the hell did you find a place to park your bike with all the damn scooters??? I rode a cycle
    back then and remember often coming out and finding scooters piled up all around it. Not too easy to
    move a '78 Goldwing around several Vespas. I was always hoping that I could discover a scooter
    belonged to one of my students, but never got so lucky.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

  15. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Fred Hinkson) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I yell out go Speed Racer. I hope you hit something so I can really get a laugh.

    I think I know to what you are referring here, Fred. That's hilarious because I tend to call idiot
    drivers like that "Speed Racer", though not yelling it. Unlike you though, I laugh instantaneously
    because I *know* they'll crash eventually.

    Speed Racer had the skills, and the tools. And Trixie. Mmmm, Trixie.

    Oh, sorry. 😉

    Anyway, calling these buffoons "Speed Racer" is giving them way too much credit. If any cartoon
    character is the epitome of these mental defectives, I would hazard a guess of Mr. Magoo - mostly
    because they obviously can't see that conditions suck, and you need to slow down a little, and give
    a little more space.

    Moron.
    --
    Jonesy

    P.S. Time dialtion works on the trail too - last time I was out, I had the front wheel wash a bit
    in a switchback, and there was a pretty good slope on the other end of that fall. I had time
    to balance my checkbook, check my e-mail, and mail off Christmas cards before I actually fell
    over. No damage, but the mind sure focuses a bit...

  16. [email hidden] (Paladin) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Never gave it a thought. In Pullman, which is situated on 3 large hills, seemed everywhere you
    went was uphill. Good intro to standing and cranking. That red beater was transportation. Chain
    lube? Maintenance? What were those, again?

    Four hills, Big Guy. Military, College, Sunnyside, and Pioneer.

    Damn straight everything is uphill. From Grand Ave., and its intersection with Stadium Way, pounding
    up the hill to Beasley Coluseum is great. Good anaerobic push. Coast down Stadium, to Main, coast
    down Main (or push a big gear and hit the speed limit,) pedal the flat Grand between Main and
    Stadium, then do it all again. Interval training, damn straight! Gonna do it before the next McCall
    trip turns into another Death March for me. LOL.
    --
    Jonesy

  17. Craig Brossman said:
    Paladin said:

    Jonesy wrote:

    Paladin Thank God for The Coug, eh?

    Ah ... The Coug. I haven't been to Pullman since I graduated in 1989, it is not really on the way
    to anything.

    How the hell did you find a place to park your bike with all the damn scooters??? I rode a cycle
    back then and remember often coming out and finding scooters piled up all around it. Not too easy
    to move a '78 Goldwing around several Vespas. I was always hoping that I could discover a scooter
    belonged to one of my students, but never got so lucky.

    This bike wasn't worth stealing, so I had a plastic covered combo bike lock, so anywhere the lock
    fit was fair game. The racks at Holland beach, the racks at Todd, the SUB, any skinny tree or
    parking meter or light pole.

    BTW, one of my jobs in 82 or 83 was a parking ticket guy. I WAS NOT your average meter-man, I'll
    have you know. I set the all-time record of 106 tickets in 1 hour. And that was back when it was
    all done by pen and paper. Everybody needs some claim to fame to support an unjustified healthy
    ego, you know.

    My memory of the Coug was sloshing in with 1 to 2" deep beer on the floor, it always so loud you had
    to yell at the top of your lungs to be heard by the person next to you, as everybody else was
    yelling too. Kinda the twilight zone where every night was spring break in Cancun or something.

    Now, its Belgian Trippel, with a decaf hazelnut latte chaser. How the mighty have fallen, eh?

    Paladin

  18. Paladin said:

    My memory of the Coug was sloshing in with 1 to 2" deep beer on the floor, it always so loud you
    had to yell at the top of your lungs to be heard by the person next to you, as everybody else was
    yelling too. Kinda the twilight zone where every night was spring break in Cancun or something.

    Now, its Belgian Trippel, with a decaf hazelnut latte chaser. How the mighty have fallen, eh?

    Paladin

    When I was in grad school in Pullman I had time for 2 things, school related work and drinking. I
    can remember the school stuff.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

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