Wainwright's C2C

Good luck Volker. Having done the walk both ways I must plan the hat-trick
as well.

Mike Brockhurst
www.walkingenglishman.com

"Volker Gringmuth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi all,

Next week, I'm going to be on Wainwright's C2C for a third time - after
eight years of abstinence.

I wonder how much has changed ...

vG

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Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks.

"Volker Gringmuth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Next week, I'm going to be on Wainwright's C2C for a third time - after
eight years of abstinence.

I wonder how much has changed ...

vG

The tea shoppe in Orton has put its prices up.

Ian.

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Ian Dainty said:

Quoted message said:

I wonder how much has changed ...

The tea shoppe in Orton has put its prices up.

Argh!

vG, looking for an alternative route

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[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Next week, I'm going to be on Wainwright's C2C for a third time - after
eight years of abstinence.

I wonder how much has changed ...

Have a great time 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

"Volker Gringmuth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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vG, looking for an alternative route

If you are looking for an alternative route, why not do the alternative C2C,
Walney island to Holy island.

Rgds Alan

Al said:

Quoted message said:

vG, looking for an alternative route

If you are looking for an alternative route, why not do the
alternative C2C, Walney island to Holy island.

There are so many summers of walking to come ... and, to be honest, the
higher prices in the Orton tea shoppe don't affect me so much since I'm
going to walk directly from Shap to Kirkby Stephen - so Orton has to
try to continue its existence without being visited by me ;-)

vG

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In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way before
depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

--
Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls - 0% to go
42/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
442/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way before
depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay
2. Visit Blakeley Stone Circle near Ennerdale Bridge
3. Do the High Stile Ridge option in Ennerdale
4. Do the option (one of 3) in Patterdale Common that you didn't do on the
other 2 occasions
5. Touch Shap Abbey
6. Sit on Smardale Bridge
7. Touch the 9 Standards
8. Fall in a bog crossing the Pennine Watershed
9. Wander round Old Gang Smelting Mills
10. Touch Marrick Abbey
11. Be bored silly near Danby Wiske
12. Sign the book in the pub at Danby Wiske
13. Scramble up the Wainstones
14. Seek out Fat Betty and give her a kiss
15. Sit in the Hermitage.

Tell me how many you score!
Is there anyone else who has done the C2C, if so what is your score?

Mike Brockhurst
(2 C2C reports at www.walkingenglishman.com)

Mike Brockhurst said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

Let's see how many I did on the first time:

Quoted message said:

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the
way before depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

[X]

Err, not actually a stone, but I took some salt drying on my boots with
me. Does that count? Anyway, I once really carried a stone for 168 km -
doing the German "Rennsteig" over the Thueringer Wald.

Quoted message said:

2. Visit Blakeley Stone Circle near Ennerdale Bridge

[ ]

Quoted message said:

3. Do the High Stile Ridge option in Ennerdale

[ ]

.... but I'm going to do it this time. My companion is 13 years old, I
have to find out about his walking strength. On the other hand, it
would be nice to see Black Sail Hut again.

Quoted message said:

4. Do the option (one of 3) in Patterdale Common that you didn't
do on the other 2 occasions

Last time we did St Sunday Crag, it was fine ... let's see if we're
ready for Helvellyn now. Depends on the weather - maybe on Friday or
Saturday you'll meet us up there.

Quoted message said:

5. Touch Shap Abbey

[ ]

Quoted message said:

6. Sit on Smardale Bridge

[X]

Quoted message said:

7. Touch the 9 Standards

[X]

Yes, I really touched all of them.

Quoted message said:

8. Fall in a bog crossing the Pennine Watershed

[ ] he he 🙂

Quoted message said:

9. Wander round Old Gang Smelting Mills

[X]

I'll never forget the weather on that day. From Keld to Blakethwaite
Smelt Mill it was pouring with rain, turning my ink-written
accommodation list, which I forgot to protect, into a mint-green clean
sheet of paper (so I had to recall every place I had booked before).

But then suddenly it cleared up and changed over to "hot summer day"
mode within 10 minutes, so I had an hour of rest at Old Gang.

Quoted message said:

10. Touch Marrick Abbey

[ ]

Quoted message said:

11. Be bored silly near Danby Wiske

[[censored]]

Quoted message said:

12. Sign the book in the pub at Danby Wiske

[X] I even somehow oversigned, for I did Kirkby Stephen - Osmotherley
two times in 1996 🙂

Quoted message said:

13. Scramble up the Wainstones

[ ]

Quoted message said:

14. Seek out Fat Betty

[X]

Quoted message said:

and give her a kiss

Yuk!

Quoted message said:

15. Sit in the Hermitage.

[X]

Quoted message said:

Tell me how many you score!

I think that's not bad for the first 1,333 times.

vG

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Martin Richardson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way before
depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

It will help stop spurn point geting washed away....

.... eventually.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Martin Richardson said:

Quoted message said:

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the
way before depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And
all the inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

The roads through RHB are steep enough to be filled up a bit ...

vG

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Tonne, die Teeblätter in die grüne, die Heftklammer wird zur Altmetallsammel-
stelle gefahren und das Fädchen kommt gewaschen in die Altkleidersammlung."

"Martin Richardson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way

before

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

No because when I return in the opposite direction I'll take it back!

"Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Martin Richardson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way

before

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

It will help stop spurn point geting washed away....

What a good idea. I can see the headline now "Considerate and VERY clever
C2C walkers come up with brilliant sea defence plan for the East Coast!

Volker, that is a brilliant score. Can you tell me the dates you are walking
over and if you don't mind I may just meet up to accompany you a few miles
when you cross the Yorkshire Dales. If you like I'll give you my contact
numbers so you can tell me when you reach Keld.

Mike

"Volker Gringmuth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Mike Brockhurst said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

Let's see how many I did on the first time:

Quoted message said:

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the
way before depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

[X]

Err, not actually a stone, but I took some salt drying on my boots with
me. Does that count? Anyway, I once really carried a stone for 168 km -
doing the German "Rennsteig" over the Thueringer Wald.

Quoted message said:

2. Visit Blakeley Stone Circle near Ennerdale Bridge

[ ]

Quoted message said:

3. Do the High Stile Ridge option in Ennerdale

[ ]

... but I'm going to do it this time. My companion is 13 years old, I
have to find out about his walking strength. On the other hand, it
would be nice to see Black Sail Hut again.

Quoted message said:

4. Do the option (one of 3) in Patterdale Common that you didn't
do on the other 2 occasions

Last time we did St Sunday Crag, it was fine ... let's see if we're
ready for Helvellyn now. Depends on the weather - maybe on Friday or
Saturday you'll meet us up there.

Quoted message said:

5. Touch Shap Abbey

[ ]

Quoted message said:

6. Sit on Smardale Bridge

[X]

Quoted message said:

7. Touch the 9 Standards

[X]

Yes, I really touched all of them.

Quoted message said:

8. Fall in a bog crossing the Pennine Watershed

[ ] he he 🙂

Quoted message said:

9. Wander round Old Gang Smelting Mills

[X]

I'll never forget the weather on that day. From Keld to Blakethwaite
Smelt Mill it was pouring with rain, turning my ink-written
accommodation list, which I forgot to protect, into a mint-green clean
sheet of paper (so I had to recall every place I had booked before).

But then suddenly it cleared up and changed over to "hot summer day"
mode within 10 minutes, so I had an hour of rest at Old Gang.

Quoted message said:

10. Touch Marrick Abbey

[ ]

Quoted message said:

11. Be bored silly near Danby Wiske

[[censored]]

Quoted message said:

12. Sign the book in the pub at Danby Wiske

[X] I even somehow oversigned, for I did Kirkby Stephen - Osmotherley
two times in 1996 🙂

Quoted message said:

13. Scramble up the Wainstones

[ ]

Quoted message said:

14. Seek out Fat Betty

[X]

Quoted message said:

and give her a kiss

Yuk!

Quoted message said:

15. Sit in the Hermitage.

[X]

Quoted message said:

Tell me how many you score!

I think that's not bad for the first 1,333 times.

vG

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Quoted message said:

Es ist schwieriger, Vorurteile zu zertrümmern als Atome.

(Einstein)

Volker Gringmuth said:

Hi all,

Next week, I'm going to be on Wainwright's C2C for a third time - after
eight years of abstinence.

I wonder how much has changed ...

vG

For your next trip, why not do the walk as originally envisaged by
Wainwright. ie get some maps, pick start and end points, and work out
a route to link them :-)

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

"Martin Richardson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way

before

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

No because when I return in the opposite direction I'll take it back!

That would ruin the point of the exercise which was to provide an
intellectual challenge to the geologists of 3000. I am told it was all
started by John Noakes in his series Go with Noakes (or perhaps it was
Blue Peter...)

--
Michael Farthing
Aardvark Ltd

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.

1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way before
depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Yip. Done that one.

Quoted message said:

2. Visit Blakeley Stone Circle near Ennerdale Bridge

Ennerdale Bridge is at the end of the day. Far too tiring.

Quoted message said:

3. Do the High Stile Ridge option in Ennerdale

The High Stile option is at the beginning of the day.
Must save strength for later.

Quoted message said:

4. Do the option (one of 3) in Patterdale Common that you didn't do on the
other 2 occasions

Done 2 out of 3 and as next time I'll be doddery, I'm sure I'll take the
remaining valley route, so I reckon I score here.

Quoted message said:

5. Touch Shap Abbey

Dunno.

Quoted message said:

6. Sit on Smardale Bridge

Ditto

Quoted message said:

7. Touch the 9 Standards

Ummm. Might have done by accident, but as it was a whiteout this was
one of the few occasions when my compass was used in anger. I lost
interest in the 9 Standards. Might have done it on the second trip..

Quoted message said:

8. Fall in a bog crossing the Pennine Watershed

That one is far too easy to merit a place in this list.

Quoted message said:

9. Wander round Old Gang Smelting Mills

See 5

Quoted message said:

10. Touch Marrick Abbey

See 5

Quoted message said:

11. Be bored silly near Danby Wiske

See 8.

Quoted message said:

12. Sign the book in the pub at Danby Wiske

Oh yes!. And I even found a message in it addressed to me!
[From chance companions of a few days previously, who were
doing it as a sprint].

Quoted message said:

13. Scramble up the Wainstones

Far too old for such things. (Well, I was then. Now of course
it would be different).

Quoted message said:

14. Seek out Fat Betty and give her a kiss

D&IRF(OGL*)-90!!!!!!!!!******
Actually, I could never work out which of these people were which and I
wouldn't want to mistake her for Young Ralph. People might talk.

Quoted message said:

15. Sit in the Hermitage.

The Hermitage? Slips my memory I'm afraid.

Quoted message said:

Tell me how many you score!

Quoted message said:

Is there anyone else who has done the C2C, if so what is your score?

5/15. Must try harder.

Quoted message said:

Mike Brockhurst
(2 C2C reports at www.walkingenglishman.com)

You missed out putting your boot in the sea at Robin Hood's Bay, which
should be done with your rucksack ON. It deserves that sense of
satisfaction too. [For those that have not done the walk this is more
challenging than it looks. The bus home starts from the top of Robin
Hood's Bay, and it is most tempting to take the rucksack off there, and
continue down to the sea and back again unencumbered except with the
necessaries for wetting ones beard in the Bay Hotel by the beach].

--
Michael Farthing
Aardvark Ltd

Michael Farthing <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

"Martin Richardson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Mike Brockhurst
<[email hidden]> writes
>Make sure you do the obligatory actions on the C2C Volker.
>
>1. Pick up a stone on St Bees beach and carry it with you all the way

before

Quoted message said:

>depositing it on Robin Hood's Bay

Wont that lead to the country tipping over in the long run? And all the
inhabitants slipping down into the North Sea.

No because when I return in the opposite direction I'll take it back!

That would ruin the point of the exercise which was to provide an
intellectual challenge to the geologists of 3000. I am told it was all
started by John Noakes in his series Go with Noakes (or perhaps it was
Blue Peter...)

[censored]! There goes the Norber Erratics theory. ;-)
--
Gordon

Volker Gringmuth said:

Next week, I'm going to be on Wainwright's C2C for a third time -
after eight years of abstinence.

Umm, we did two thirds of it. Actually, I did two thirds of it for
the third time now, so I did the walk twice, mathematically.

It's the weather's fault. I surely do not expect two weeks without
any rain on a walk through England, but neither do I expect days and
days with nothing but pouring rain ...

As I already said, it was me and my 13-year-old cousin on the walk.
Generally, he did a better job than me (no wonder as he has much
less of body mass to carry around!).

Aug 4th: Started in St Bees. Rain in the morning, but cleared up
when approaching Dent. Started again exactly 100 yards before Dent
Top, spoiling the planned rest and soaking our boots. Rain did not
cease until we reached Ennerdale Bridge at 3 pm (!), but then it did
(laughing at us?). Found out that the camp site at the end of the
hamlet, placed on a former farm ground, is somewhat low-end (a note
in the shower says, "please close the door to stop the hens making a
mess" - so they make it just in front of the door). Apparently, the
shop in the village does not sell food essentials any more (pity).

5th: Weather seemed to be clear, though the tent is wet all over.
Walked through Ennerdale Forest, not feeling strong enough for High
Stile. Loft Beck made it clear to me that I should practise
fellwalking a bit more often (ugh!). It started to rain at Honister
Crag, just as we had reached Drum House. Enough to wet us through
until Stonethwaite camp site.

6th: Weather indifferent in the morning. Started early for Grasmere.
Weather was really good then, allowing fine views from Lining Crag
and Greenup edge. Very wet and muddy on Greenup Edge and the
crossing of Wythburn dale! The boy didn't want to try the Helm Crag
alternative route, so we descended normally through Easedale.
Wonderful scenery. Found out that Grasmere keeps strongly to the
tradition of not having any camp site. Luckily, the Butterlip How
YHA still had two beds for us.

7th: Weather fine. Walked up to Grisedale Tarn, using the eastern
route this time (last time, we walked over the Tongue). Eastern is
nicer I think. Very strong winds on Grisedale Pass. We found the
weather fine enough to take the Helvellyn route. I do not regret
that decision; in fact, this was the most glorious point of our
whole walk. Helvellyn is outstanding. The descent via Striding Edge
with all its rock-climbing is, however, not the best route for those
who carry large backpacks (as we did). Arrived at Patterdale with
weary feet, finding that the camp site was full. But they were
kindly enough to find a small pitch for our small tent. (Note: That
was the only day without any rain at all.)

8th: Fine morning. Reached Angle Tarn in time to have some rest and
enjoy the scenery. Strong winds, but the view wasn't as clear as it
was last time when I was up there. The winds grew stronger and
stronger towards Kidsty Pike (I like that!); on the summit of Kidsty
Pike you could have leant against the wind without any danger of
falling down I bet. Tedious walking along Haweswater. During the
last section from Burnbanks to Shap, I thought my feet would fall
off. Maybe I had eaten too less for breakfast. Rain in the evening
and all the night. The Bulls Head had put their camping fees up to
£5 per person (too much I think).

9th: Heavy rain. Started for Kirkby Stephen, trying to ignore the
weather. Got a bit finer towards Oddendale and kept dry as we were
walking over Crosby Ravensworth Fell but started raining again when
we approached Orton, so I decided to stay in Orton for the rest of
the day (my feet still felt weary from the day before). All B&B
accommodation was booked out, so we had to stay at the New House
Farm camp site. Pitched the tent in heavy showers, aware of the fact
that nothing of our clothing would dry if it kept raining.

10th: Still pouring with rain, but as our boots were already wet, we
started for Kirkby Stephen nevertheless. The road section was fine
walking, but the meadows were very muddy. The cart-track leaving
Smardale Bridge to the west now was something like a raging river to
cross. There was at least as much water inside our boots than
outside by this time. Arriving at the YHA in Kirkby Stephen, I
hardly could walk any more for the rest of the evening. When I walk
with soggy feet, they tend to develop considerable blisters below my
toes (best place to make any further walking a pain). Well, they did
that day.

11th: I rather would have a rest day for my feet but the boy said
the weather was too fine not to walk. Well, he was right; anyway, we
took the road to Keld, as oncoming walkers had told us that the moor
between Ravenseat and the Nine Standards was very muddy after all
the days of rain. That was a fine day of walking, the road is a
beautiful way as well - hardly any cars and grand scenery around.
Some short showers didn't irritate us. Put up our tent on the "best
camp site on the C2C", as it claimed to be (just opposite the
"longest quarter-of-a-mile in northern England"😉. It is really fine
and friendly, the only disadvantage being the millions of midgets
(literally!) in the evening.

12th: Rain. Decided to walk to Reeth anyway, as it seems to tend to
clear up. It didn't do so at all. We kept to the road due to the
weather and the mud; the "upper way" is of no worth if you can't
enjoy the scenery, and you surely can't if it's all rain around.
Lots of heavy showers on the way. Learned how long the last 4 miles
can be with the aforementioned blisters growing up in their
favourite climate. I limped into Reeth, wondering why the boy still
could walk so fine. But during that day of heavy rain, his mood had
also reached its lower end, and I really could not walk any more.
After all, walking the C2C should be fun and not torture. We put the
decision off until next morning.

13rd: Looked not very fine, so we decided to pack it in for this
year. Spent the day in Reeth, went to Richmond by bus and further to
Brompton. Had a fine recovering rest day at Village Farm Camping
Barn (highly recommendable!).

Bad luck with the weather! I talked to some people about it, and
they all said they hadn't ever seen such a rainy fortnight as the
one we unfortunately had put our walk in.

There'll be another opportunity ...

vG

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