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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Diablo Scott said:

Welcome madam speaker.

Yep, has the guy that works at the shop just scared [censored]...pretty
funny. He should be scared [censored] of more of the same. I want to
see Pelosi take the gavel..and then see Rush's, Bill O's, Sean
Hannity's face...

Don't kid yourself. Those guys are salivating at the prospect of the
Democrats taking over the Legislature (or not, for that matter- they've
got scripts for either outcome).

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Taylor said:

Do you realize that you and your neocon Christian whack job friends
are a minority in this country and are the laughingstock of the
entire world?

Nah. Most of the world doesn't even know they exist.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

After careful consideration, I decided that I want a dictatroship.
The way i see it, in a dictatorship, a small group of people will do
very well, a larger group will do so, so, and another large group
will get screwed. Many freedoms will be curtailed and many people
will not be able to escape the dictatorship for multiple reasons.

This would be different than the past six years in what way?

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Or don't complain about the people that end up in office!!

Let's give Carl Rove a "November to Remember"! ;-)

Saw Rove and Cheney on TV, Most memorable quote from Cheney, when asked
about lack of public support for the Iraq mess, "it doesn't
matter'...those who forget the mistakes of the past and going to repeat
them. Iraq really is arabic for VietNam, another civil war we should
have not entered into.

Well, I hope one thing that is going to be different *inside the US*
is a better relationship between many liberals and our professional
military. I don't mean the money-grubbing military industrial complex
involved in producing arms, but the men and women of the armed
services.
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Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

Yep, has the guy that works at the shop just scared [censored]...pretty
funny. He should be scared [censored] of more of the same. I want to see
Pelosi take the gavel..and then see Rush's, Bill O's, Sean Hannity's
face...

Peter: If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend "V for Vendetta." It's
the movie that 1984 should have been, and has one of the all-time great
lines-

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be
afraid of their people."

I spent a bit of time trying to find where they stole that line from, but it
appears to be original.

Plus Nathalie Portman is hawt.
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landotter said:

Bill Sornson said:

Diablo Scott said:

Welcome madam speaker.

Oughtta be good for [censored] 'n giggles.

(Hey, maybe she'll invite her NAMBLA parade-mate to sit in the gallery
during the SOTU! Good thing the pages are TOO OLD for him.)

Why do you draw a connection between Pelosi and a group promoting
adolescent-adult male sexual relationships? I know of no evidence to
this. If you have some, please share it. Otherwise feel free to put
away your bucket of [censored], or come tommorrow, us reasonable folk will
dump it on your head. You've had a nice friendly warning.

She went on a civil rights march in which some NAMBLA people, among
hundreds or even thousands of other people participated. That's the
extent of it.

It's the same sort of dopey argument the wingnuts make where someone
questioning BushCo's undermining of habeus corpus is described as
"caring more about protecting terrorists than the American people."

The question I have is whether the people spouting this nonsense
believe or a being crass and cynical. I think it's probably a mixed
bag, with Rove and Cheney and that sort using these ideas to grab
power. Dopes like Sorni seem to believe it though.

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

landotter said:

Bill Sornson said:

Diablo Scott wrote:
> Welcome madam speaker.

Oughtta be good for [censored] 'n giggles.

(Hey, maybe she'll invite her NAMBLA parade-mate to sit in the gallery
during the SOTU! Good thing the pages are TOO OLD for him.)

Why do you draw a connection between Pelosi and a group promoting
adolescent-adult male sexual relationships? I know of no evidence to
this. If you have some, please share it. Otherwise feel free to put
away your bucket of [censored], or come tommorrow, us reasonable folk will
dump it on your head. You've had a nice friendly warning.

She went on a civil rights march in which some NAMBLA people, among
hundreds or even thousands of other people participated. That's the
extent of it.

It's the same sort of dopey argument the wingnuts make where someone
questioning BushCo's undermining of habeus corpus is described as
"caring more about protecting terrorists than the American people."

Ohhh, I see how it works! So can I use the picture of Rumsy shaking
Hussein's hand in the same way!?

/giggle

landotter said:

http://static.flickr.com/4/6863699_a030c9a290_o.jpg

But http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5733/clintonhitit7be.jpg
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Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Taylor said:

Do you realize that you and your neocon Christian whack job friends
are a minority in this country and are the laughingstock of the
entire world?

Nah. Most of the world doesn't even know they exist.

The vast majority of Europeans are very familiar with the image of the
American as the neocon Christanist whackjob--and though they used to
poke fun at it, many of them have had that amusement turn to fear over
the past six years.

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landotter said:

Ohhh, I see how it works! So can I use the picture of Rumsy shaking
Hussein's hand in the same way!?

That was active military cooperation between the parties the two were
representing. Way worse.

Bush marching in some big event with some tool is not a big deal.
Small meetings for joint work -- big deal.

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Paul Cassel said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Or don't complain about the people that end up in office!!

I figure any way it comes out, I lose.

I fear the D's and despise the R's. So who to vote for?

Vote for the individual..I woul;d vote for McCain in a heart beat. I
feel lots better about him than Hilary. Altho i like Hilary more than
Frist and some of these other knuckleheads.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Paul Cassel said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Or don't complain about the people that end up in office!!

I figure any way it comes out, I lose.

I fear the D's and despise the R's. So who to vote for?

Vote for the individual..I woul;d vote for McCain in a heart beat.

Even after he licked Bushit's behind after Turd Blossom spread rumors
about him having an illegitimate black baby? After he voted to suspend
Habeas Corpus, and voted to let the president decide what constitutes
torture? After having been tortured? After he dropped his drawers and
laid a stinker on the constitution? McCain is just another GOP rubber
stamping enabler. He tries to paint himself as a maverick, but he
ain't.

Someone like Olympia Snow gets more of my respect, though she may rot
in hell for supporting this Iraq war, because she usually votes very
independently.

landotter said:

...
I don't get what the talking heads are so freaked about. They're all
winking and whispering about "San Francisco values". Ohhh, what the
heck does that mean?...

A triple crank and Megarange cassette for the steep roadway grades.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

Paul Cassel said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Or don't complain about the people that end up in office!!

I figure any way it comes out, I lose.

I fear the D's and despise the R's. So who to vote for?

Demand instant runoff voting so third party candidates have a chance at
getting elected. Until then, we will have two parties primarily
interested in protecting incumbency.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

"Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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* * Chas said:

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Or don't complain about the people that end up in office!!

Remember, vote early and vote often!!! (Mayor Daley of Chicago) ;-)

IIRC, the quote was from James Michael Curley, Mayor of Boston and,
later, Governor of Massachusetts. Curley's political "machine" would
pick up drunks, homeless, vagrants, etc., give them some $ and
transport them around the voting precincts of Boston, pulling the

lever

Quoted message said:

again and again for The Mayor.

Curley was a role model for Daley.

Quoted message said:

Chas.

I think that you are correct. I remember the phrase from Chicagoans
talking about the Daley political machine.

Chas.

In article <[email hidden]>,

G.T. said:

The current administration is doing nothing but making this country
and this world worse for everyone.

No, it's not. Just follow the money. 1% of the population has
benefited dramatically.

Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

G.T. said:

The current administration is doing nothing but making this country
and this world worse for everyone.

No, it's not. Just follow the money. 1% of the population has
benefited dramatically.

Only 1% of families make around $50,000 a year and pay around 1300 in
federal taxes now instead of around 3300 like before?

Huh.

Bill Sornson said:

Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

G.T. said:

The current administration is doing nothing but making this country
and this world worse for everyone.

No, it's not. Just follow the money. 1% of the population has
benefited dramatically.

Only 1% of families make around $50,000 a year and pay around 1300 in
federal taxes now instead of around 3300 like before?

Huh.

Where did that number come from? CITATION PLEASE.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

After careful consideration, I decided that I want a dictatroship.
The way i see it, in a dictatorship, a small group of people will do
very well, a larger group will do so, so, and another large group
will get screwed. Many freedoms will be curtailed and many people
will not be able to escape the dictatorship for multiple reasons.

This would be different than the past six years in what way?

That was exactly my point. I don't know if you read further, but the
only difference would be that in a dictatorshoip there is no pretence.

Andres