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  1. in message <[email hidden]>, Keith

    (') said:
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    >Maybe you ought to look at Jens performance and the profile. Voigt
    >has demonstrated his substantial performance time and time again.

    Especially on the first ITT of the tour where he finished last ! Not
    to mention his appalling chase trying to reel in Landis on the way to
    Morzine, it was so bad that T-Mobile had to send in Gonthar.

    Keith, you're a very enthusiastic fan. Passionate, in fact.
    You know what sucks about this particular brand of passion?
    You talk trash about the riders when they have a bad day, like
    you're talking trash about Voigt. You get all emotionally bound
    up with them, and then when one of them tests positive you rant
    and rave about what a horrible cheater he is. They're doping
    not because dope tastes good, but because of the pressure
    to perform and produce results, and where does that pressure
    come from? Right, the fans, the devoted and passionate fans,
    that tear them down whenever they fail to live up to the fans'
    exaggerated expectations.

    No actually I don't mind anyone having a bad day, Landis' bad day was
    spectacular and made for an exciting race. I guess I never really
    forgave Voigt for chasing down Ullrich in 2004 on the way to Villard
    de Lans to defend Basso's third place.

    Errrrr... I beg your pardon? Which team was Voigt riding for? Which team
    was Ullrich riding for?

    Remind me never to ride in a team with you!

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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  2. in message <[email hidden]>, Keith

    (') said:
    Frank Drackman said:

    "Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I never really forgave Voigt for chasing down Ullrich in 2004
    on the way to Villard de Lans to defend Basso's third place.

    OK, I'll bite. Why are you upset at Jens for chasing down Jan?

    Poor sportmanship, USP should have been doing the chasing.

    USP weren't in the race to defend Basso's podium position. That wasn't
    their job. It was CSC's job, and Jens did it. As any good team player
    would.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; If you're doing this for fun, do what seems fun. If you're
    ;; doing it for money, stop now.
    ;; Rainer Deyke

  3. Quoted message said:

    Ernst, wasn't Jens from the old East Germany? And wasn't he in their
    programs? And didn't the East Germans dope their riders telling them it was
    "vitamins"?

    Maybe THAT'S why Jens is so outspoken?

    He's too young to have played a role in that...

    --
    ciao,
    Bruce

    drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/

  4. "Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Frank Drackman said:


    "Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    I guess I never really forgave Voigt for chasing down Ullrich in 2004 on
    the way to Villard

    Quoted message said:

    de Lans to defend Basso's third place.

    OK, I'll bite. Why are you upset at Jens for chasing down Jan?

    Poor sportmanship, USP should have been doing the chasing.

    You are joking, right?

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