vo2max question

roadster99 said:

[font=Verdana]Just something that I thought about:

How long does it take to fully develop your vo2max system? Is this something that develops over a period of years, or is it something that develops at a faster rate (i.e. 1 year). I only ask this because I always hear that you can "max out your vo2max system." I think I've read that in like the "killing me..." thread. Just something I was thinking about. Thanks![/font]

AFAIK 🙂

thanks for the reply!

roadster99 said:

[font=Verdana]Just something that I thought about:

How long does it take to fully develop your vo2max system? Is this something that develops over a period of years, or is it something that develops at a faster rate (i.e. 1 year). I only ask this because I always hear that you can "max out your vo2max system." I think I've read that in like the "killing me..." thread. Just something I was thinking about. Thanks![/font]

Some good high-level descriptions can be found here:

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rmur17 said:

Some good high-level descriptions can be found here:

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Thanks! Good article! Appreciate the response.

Piotr said:

AFAIK 🙂

yes but in the course of training in a particular season VO2max in relation to that potential (that can get developed in about a year) can go up and down... it takes about 4-5 weeks of VO2max training to maximize to that potential.

doctorSpoc said:

yes but in the course of training in a particular season VO2max in relation to that potential (that can get developed in about a year) can go up and down... it takes about 4-5 weeks of VO2max training to maximize to that potential.

Ahh...I see. So, just so I understand, VO2max can be basically trained to a certain potential (depending on self and level of cycling ability) in about 4-5 weeks. BUT, in terms of long term overall lifetime training effects, VO2max will max out in about a year? I know this is just a basic assumption, but honestly, that was all I was looking for.

Also, something else that just crossed my mind. I don't expect many to really know unless they happen to be trained doctors with this type of research. But, I used to be a cigarette smoker. I've quit for over 3 years now. I took up cycling just about 2 years ago. Is my body severely handicapped now due to the cigarette smoking history? The permanent damage done by years of tobacco intake, how much effect on the aerobic system(s) does it have? I also have friends who regularly smoke weed. I swear, they kick my [censored] readily! How can they be so physically fit, have what I believe to be pretty good VO2max systems, be some of the top climbers in the town and puff on joints every single day? How can that NOT affect VO2max?

BTW, thank you very much for responding!

Really it comes down to training. If you ride consistantly and recover properly, you'll be able to compensate for smoking - provided you aren't currently smoking. Congrats on quitting by the way.

I too know some amazing cyclists who are SERIOUS pot-heads. My observation is that they tend to hack up a lot of phlegm, but once it is out, they are breathing quite efficiently. I'm not sure if it is because marijuana smoke is much more harsh to inhale, and as such, not as much gets in, or simply the volume smoked is much less than with chain smokers - but it seems like they are able to get most of the "grit" out of their lungs.

I have also read about potential protective, immune-regulating effects of cannabinoids in a review from the University of Minnesota: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov11106790Open ↗

Perhaps they are warding off reccurent pulmonary infections by toking frequently? 🙄 Time to hit the bong and hit the road?

Seriously though... I bet those individuals who excel with smoking, would probably excel even further without it. Genes play a big role - pick your parents well. 😉

Roadster, I raced in High School, quit to smoke cigarettes in college, then quit smokes to race for 2 years as a cat4/5 in my late twenties, quit bikes again for a decade to drink copious amounts of liquor and smoke 8 packs a week through my thirties... you get the idea.

I returned to riding 2 years ago just doing shorter rides of about 15-20 miles and crying on the mildest inclines thinking I had wrecked my body for good. Started an actual training program last year and began racing again last July, racing age 43. I finished the season stronger than any other so far in my mini-racing career. Unless the damage is substantial, the body can likely repair itself back to 100% with enough rest, good nutrition, and tlc.

Don't stress the smoking history, your best racing years may well be ahead of you.

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Originally Posted by roadster99 [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]
I used to be a cigarette smoker. I've quit for over 3 years now. I took up cycling just about 2 years ago. Is my body severely handicapped now due to the cigarette smoking history? The permanent damage done by years of tobacco intake, how much effect on the aerobic system(s) does it have? I also have friends who regularly smoke weed. I swear, they kick my **** readily!

I takes years to build up your VO2max.

You need to build up your heart and your blood vessels. And don't forget the processes that transport your fuel and dispose of the waste products.

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On the other hand your VO2max is currently what you can do today.

it doesn't make too much sense to discuss complex training concepts for guys who are drinking and smoking, or guys who praise that

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Originally Posted by vspa [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]

it doesn't make too much sense to discuss complex training concepts for guys who are drinking and smoking, or guys who praise that

Not to mention these guys are responding to questions posted two and a half years ago...

The idiot who thought he was giving some helpful advice must have been too stoned to notice the last posting date.

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Originally Posted by vspa [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]

it doesn't make too much sense to discuss complex training concepts for guys who are drinking and smoking, or guys who praise that

Eddy Merckx smoked more than just the odd cigarette...

Maybe that's why he didnt deal with complex training concepts and just went out and rode. [IMG]/img/vbsmilies/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]