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Gabe said:

i've been told that regular vitamins are not absorbed by the
body and that the only way to get the wanted effect is to take
soft gels or liquid form or injections. is this true?

No, with the exception of vitamin B-12 for people
who don't have enough of certain proteins needed for
absorption. Some people are born with defective
intrinsic factor or transfer factor, and other people
develop a deficiency of intrinsic factor in old age.
For these people, injections are necessary.

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anyone recommend any good B-vitamin complex?
I've been buying the CVS brand. TIA

Whatever is cheapest. They're all the same.
A few large companies make all of the pure
raw materials used to make vitamins, so there's
no significant difference among brands, except
price.

Personal reference only. Hard caps can give you air in your stomache, Pills
are heat pressed and may not disolve fast enough.

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i've been told that regular vitamins are not absorbed by the body and
that the only way to get the wanted effect is to take soft gels or
liquid form or injections. is this true? anyone recommend any good
B-vitamin complex? I've been buying the CVS brand. TIA

Gabe

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Gymmy Bob said:

Personal reference only. Hard caps can give you air in your stomache, Pills
are heat pressed and may not disolve fast enough.

There's not enough air in a capsule to cause any trouble. A couple of
ounces of a carbonated soft drink would be far more of a problem.

Pills dissolve quite fast. If you don't believe me, put one in a
glass of water and come back an hour later.

As for Gabe, Mark Thorson is right -- just take whatever is cheapest.
The only supplements I would avoid are dolomite or bone meal for
calcium, as they are too often contaminated with lead.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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i've been told that regular vitamins are not absorbed by the body and
that the only way to get the wanted effect is to take soft gels or
liquid form or injections. is this true? anyone recommend any good
B-vitamin complex? I've been buying the CVS brand. TIA

Gabe

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Gymmy Bob said:

Personal reference only. Hard caps can give you air in your stomache, Pills
are heat pressed and may not disolve fast enough.

There's not enough air in a capsule to cause any trouble. A couple of
ounces of a carbonated soft drink would be far more of a problem.

Pills dissolve quite fast. If you don't believe me, put one in a
glass of water and come back an hour later.

As for Gabe, Mark Thorson is right -- just take whatever is cheapest.
The only supplements I would avoid are dolomite or bone meal for
calcium, as they are too often contaminated with lead.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Thanks!

Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of selling
them otherwise?.
The thing about artificial vitamins, is on a whole, you are not getting them
in natural form
(many different molecules of the same type of vitamin), which you would get
in natural foods.
For instance vitamin c (ascorbic acid) has many different salts, whereas the
vitamin you get in the shop
would be of one form - ascorbic acid.
Other examples are carotenes, of which one type has been shown to promote
cancers under certain conditions whereas the natural forms don't, and are
protective against cancers.
(As general rule L ascorbic acid is are good for the body whereas the D
isomer allegedly is not)

Interesting article about scurvy and ascorbate, in guinea pig studies one
form was active the other was not.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html
Anth

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i've been told that regular vitamins are not absorbed by the body and
that the only way to get the wanted effect is to take soft gels or
liquid form or injections. is this true? anyone recommend any good
B-vitamin complex? I've been buying the CVS brand. TIA

Gabe

Cheaper isn't always the best - look on the label and do your research.
Anth

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Gymmy Bob said:

Personal reference only. Hard caps can give you air in your stomache,

Pills

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are heat pressed and may not disolve fast enough.

There's not enough air in a capsule to cause any trouble. A couple of
ounces of a carbonated soft drink would be far more of a problem.

Pills dissolve quite fast. If you don't believe me, put one in a
glass of water and come back an hour later.

As for Gabe, Mark Thorson is right -- just take whatever is cheapest.
The only supplements I would avoid are dolomite or bone meal for
calcium, as they are too often contaminated with lead.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Thanks!

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Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of selling
them otherwise?.
The thing about artificial vitamins, is on a whole, you are not getting them
in natural form
(many different molecules of the same type of vitamin), which you would get
in natural foods.
For instance vitamin c (ascorbic acid) has many different salts, whereas the
vitamin you get in the shop
would be of one form - ascorbic acid.
Other examples are carotenes, of which one type has been shown to promote
cancers under certain conditions whereas the natural forms don't, and are
protective against cancers.
(As general rule L ascorbic acid is are good for the body whereas the D
isomer allegedly is not)

Interesting article about scurvy and ascorbate, in guinea pig studies one
form was active the other was not.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html
Anth

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i've been told that regular vitamins are not absorbed by the body and
that the only way to get the wanted effect is to take soft gels or
liquid form or injections. is this true? anyone recommend any good
B-vitamin complex? I've been buying the CVS brand. TIA

Gabe

I get all my vitamins from Goldshield on the net and they are very
good quality. They do a very good B-vitamin complex. I believe all
vitamins the body needs are absorbed.

Labels only tell the surface things that they cannot legally hide. Check for
professional's opinions of the manufacturers reputation.

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Cheaper isn't always the best - look on the label and do your research.
Anth

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Gymmy Bob <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Personal reference only. Hard caps can give you air in your stomache,

Pills

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>are heat pressed and may not disolve fast enough.

There's not enough air in a capsule to cause any trouble. A couple of
ounces of a carbonated soft drink would be far more of a problem.

Pills dissolve quite fast. If you don't believe me, put one in a
glass of water and come back an hour later.

As for Gabe, Mark Thorson is right -- just take whatever is cheapest.
The only supplements I would avoid are dolomite or bone meal for
calcium, as they are too often contaminated with lead.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Thanks!

Anth. You are not that stupid are you? I guess they give them away where you
shop.

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Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of

selling

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them otherwise?.

Anyone who claims vitamins are _not_ absorbed is an idiot, there's well
documented blood plasma absorption curves as well as documented treatments
of diseases using vitamins. (typically scurvy)
Anth

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Anth. You are not that stupid are you? I guess they give them away where

you

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shop.

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Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of

selling

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them otherwise?.

Are you saying thast magnesium oxide (a form of magnesium supplement) is
absorbed when it won't even disolve in a glass of acidified water overnight?

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Anyone who claims vitamins are _not_ absorbed is an idiot, there's well
documented blood plasma absorption curves as well as documented treatments
of diseases using vitamins. (typically scurvy)
Anth

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Anth. You are not that stupid are you? I guess they give them away where

you

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shop.

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Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of

selling

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them otherwise?.

I am not aware that Magnesium oxide is a vitamin, it may be a nutrient.
Anth
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11794633

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Are you saying thast magnesium oxide (a form of magnesium supplement) is
absorbed when it won't even disolve in a glass of acidified water

overnight?

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Anyone who claims vitamins are _not_ absorbed is an idiot, there's well
documented blood plasma absorption curves as well as documented

treatments

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of diseases using vitamins. (typically scurvy)
Anth

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Anth. You are not that stupid are you? I guess they give them away

where

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you

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shop.

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> Of course regular vitamins are absorbed - what would be the point of
selling
> them otherwise?.