Vitamin E dangerous?

It is important to not 'think in black and white" terms...all or
nothing...

An important detail is balance and amounts...

The moral of the story is too much of most good things will kill
you....even love...look at Jesus Christ...

Caesar J. B. Squitti

[email hidden] (N-H-P) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Further, when looking at the studies with over 3,500 test subjects
per study group there WERE only 5 studies worth looking at. Two
were favorable, two were neutral, and only one was negative.
That one study alone (MRC/BHF HPS 2002), at a dosage of 660 IU's
day, accounts for the entire 5% negative death rate. Gee, I
wonder if that study was bogus? Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

MRC/BHF Heart Protection Study of antioxidant vitamin supplementation
in 20,536 high-risk individuals: a randomised placebo-controlled
trial. Lancet. 2002;360:23-33. [PMID: 12114037].[Medline]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=12114037&dopt=Abstract

Funny how Lancet interprets their findings differently.

There were no significant differences in all-cause mortality.Lancet
says high dosage Vitamin E is safe, but not effective.

My review of the data was so easy, so correct, and so obvious
that I sent a Rapid Response Comment to Ann Intern Med
http://www.annals.org/cgi/eletters/0000605-200501040-00110v1
entitled: 'Lancet was correct!'

It should be showing up within a few days. 🙂

I will also use it as my first health blog to my web site.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:42:59 -0800, "William_Noyes"
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the water solubilized forms would get into the
blood stream whereas other forms might
be somewhat more likely to pass all the way thru
the gut.

Why? Don't all fats get absorbed, usually?

On 16 Nov 2004 22:11:12 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

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Therefore I concur, that the meta-analysis combined 19 individual
studies, eighteen of which showed no statistically significant
increase in mortality, squeezing out an overall finding of no
increased risk.

What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

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That is
nothing new. They have been at war with vits/mins and supplements for
decades. Sick people = $$$$$$

If you mean from a bottle, they sell the stuff, so why would they want
you not to take them?

Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?
--
john gohde
http://blog.naturalhealthperspective.com/

Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?
--
john gohde
http://blog.naturalhealthperspective.com/

Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?
--
john gohde
http://blog.naturalhealthperspective.com/

Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 16 Nov 2004 22:11:12 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

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Therefore I concur, that the meta-analysis combined 19 individual
studies, eighteen of which showed no statistically significant
increase in mortality, squeezing out an overall finding of no
increased risk.

What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

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That is
nothing new. They have been at war with vits/mins and supplements for
decades. Sick people = $$$$$$

If you mean from a bottle, they sell the stuff, so why would they want
you not to take them?

Shut the [censored] up already dumb ass. What the hell is wrong with you
anyway. You think we dont know how stupid you are already? You
really do not need to demonstrate it over and over and over with every
response. My god you are just like Markd it is amazing. It is like
you enjoy displaying your ignorance and naivety to everyone.

On 24 Nov 2004 05:58:27 -0800, [email hidden]
(N-H-P) posted:

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Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?

Still nothing substantive?

On 24 Nov 2004 06:05:36 -0800, [email hidden]
(N-H-P) posted:

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Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?

Are you in a room full of mirrors instead of windows? You seem to be
accusing me of your problem. Check your newsfeed.

On 24 Nov 2004 06:08:06 -0800, [email hidden]
(N-H-P) posted:

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Dunne E. Dawe said:

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What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

You already replied to this in another post! What is your problem,
Dim-wit?

And still more. You really have nothing to say, do you.

On 24 Nov 2004 11:46:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

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Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 16 Nov 2004 22:11:12 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

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>
> Therefore I concur, that the meta-analysis combined 19 individual
> studies, eighteen of which showed no statistically significant
> increase in mortality, squeezing out an overall finding of no
> increased risk.

What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

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That is
nothing new. They have been at war with vits/mins and supplements for
decades. Sick people = $$$$$$

If you mean from a bottle, they sell the stuff, so why would they want
you not to take them?

Shut the [censored] up already dumb ass.

Why? Does what I say embarrass you? It seems to have this effect from
your outbursts here.

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What the hell is wrong with you
anyway.

Nothing, I thought. I'm joining in the discussion with some questions
that upset you horrendously (by your empty, abreactions).

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You think we dont know how stupid you are already?

"WE"? It is YOU who can't answer my simple questions with anything but
empty childish insult.

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You
really do not need to demonstrate it over and over and over with every
response.

I ask on-topic questions or make on-topic comments - you respond with
nothing but childish insult. What are you trying to demonstrate?

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My god you are just like Markd it is amazing.

Thank you for the huge compliment. (I'm serious!)

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It is like
you enjoy displaying your ignorance and naivety to everyone.

Yep, I'm here to learn. You? Where is your on-topic question or
comment? I've not seen one yet.

Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 24 Nov 2004 11:46:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

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Dunne E. Dawe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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On 16 Nov 2004 22:11:12 -0800, [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
posted:

>>
>> Therefore I concur, that the meta-analysis combined 19 individual
>> studies, eighteen of which showed no statistically significant
>> increase in mortality, squeezing out an overall finding of no
>> increased risk.
>
>
>What do you expect. It is just drug industry propaganda to scare
>people away from real health through vitamins/minerals.

You mean vits and mins from food? Then you have the food lobby...

>That is
>nothing new. They have been at war with vits/mins and supplements for
>decades. Sick people = $$$$$$

If you mean from a bottle, they sell the stuff, so why would they want
you not to take them?

Shut the [censored] up already dumb ass.

Why? Does what I say embarrass you? It seems to have this effect from
your outbursts here.

Because what you say is so unbarably moronic get that?

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What the hell is wrong with you
anyway.

Nothing, I thought. I'm joining in the discussion with some questions
that upset you horrendously (by your empty, abreactions).

Umm no you are not joining anything. You are just being a dumb [censored]
and saying such stupid things that I have a hard time beliving you
could actualy be serious.

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You think we dont know how stupid you are already?

"WE"? It is YOU who can't answer my simple questions with anything but
empty childish insult.

Answer what? Your moronic irrelevant questions??? What a joke. It is
you who refuses to address the significant points I bring up about
unhealthy modern diets and healthy traditional diets. You do not
address them because you can not. The facts in there entirety do not
fit in with your delusional views on nutrition so you have no choice
but to ignore or make ridiculous comments that you know no one would
respond to.

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You
really do not need to demonstrate it over and over and over with every
response.

I ask on-topic questions or make on-topic comments - you respond with
nothing but childish insult. What are you trying to demonstrate?

I would ask you that question. Like i said as i see it you are just
demonstrating your stupidity if you are actually serious about what
you are saying.

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My god you are just like Markd it is amazing.

Thank you for the huge compliment. (I'm serious!)

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It is like
you enjoy displaying your ignorance and naivety to everyone.

Yep, I'm here to learn. You?

LOL you are not here to learn you are here to continue ignoring the
whole picture to accept only facts which further justify your
preconceived biased views about nutrition. You could learn plenty if
you opened your narrow mind from people like Monty as I have, who you
also chose to ignore.

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Where is your on-topic question or comment? I've not seen one yet.

Oh you mean the on topic points about food and diets which you chose
to ignore because they do not fit into your pathetic version of
reality?