Visit to Torridon

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Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are likely to be in
this area

Dreadful.

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AndyB said:

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are likely
to be in this area. I also in intend to wildcamp...is this
tolerated here ? or is there a campsite nearby (grid refs
welcomed).

There is a campsite in the field at NG 905557 public toilets
outside the YHA. £2.00 a night IIRC. The lady doesn't come
round every day though.

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As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

You can't miss 'em. Start at the bottom and go UP. The
routes are all fairly obvious from the OS 1:50k.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

The Midges were an absolute nightmare last week! I camped at
the foot of Liathach... wow they were bad!!

If you go slightly further south for the old wild camping
you can leave from Craig (carpark to leave the car) and head
into the wilderness. Camp somewhere near Loch Monar, I found
a 500 metre coll with a beautiful breeze to keep the midges
at bay and enjoyed some spectacular views!

Day 1 Lurg Mhor - 986m (163) Bidein a' Choire Sheasgaich -
945m (224)

Day 2 Sgurr Choinnich - 999m (139) Sgurr a' Chaorachain
- 1053m (78) possibly including: Maoile Lunndaidh -
1007m (125)

This could be an enjoyable itinery!

This was some of the most remote walking I have ever
experienced!

Have fun!!!!!!

Ian 🙂

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Hi

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are
likely to be in this area. I also in intend to
wildcamp...is this tolerated here ? or is there a campsite
nearby (grid refs welcomed).

As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

thanks

Andy. Glasgow.

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As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

Liathach : 3,5 km east of Torridon YH follow path N (NG 936
566) up Toll a Meitheach to reach the coll. Turn left (W)
for the ridge. Weather permitting go over the pinnacles of
Am Fasarinen, otherwise take the bypass on the S side.(take
care if wet). Descent via the stoneshoot at NG 903 576
(cairn) towards YH or follow the ridge west to Torridon Ho.
Total hidden lenght 7,9 km., height ascended 1 km., Est.time
3hrs40m. in good conditions and no stops incl.

Beinn Alligin : 4,5 km WNW of YH follow path NE (NG 869 576)
into Coire Mhic Nobuil. After 1,5 km cross bridge (NG 881
589) and go N and NW to reach Na Rathanan after 2,5 km. Go W
for Sguur Mor, SW for Bein Alligin and S for Tom na
Gruagaich. From there S, SE and SSE to return to starting
point. Total hidden lenght 10,4 km, height ascended 1221 m.
Est.time 4hrs. in good conditions and no stops incl.

Enjoy your walks and take care.

Theo

(AndyB) said:

Hi

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are likely
to be in this area.

I was nearby last week.

On a scale of 0 - 10 the midge rating was
100000000000000000000000000.

For every week in June the midge rating goes up by a factor
of 100000. It starts falling again in September.

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I also in intend to wildcamp...is this tolerated here ? or
is there a campsite nearby (grid refs welcomed).

Wild camping is not generally a problem so long as you
are out of sight. The campsite in Torridon (905557) is
pretty good,

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As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

Try the Beinns Alligin, Dearg (a few inches short of a
Munro) and Eighe, and Liathach. Watch out for wild goats on
Slioch, not strictly in Torridon but worth a visit.

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As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

On my last visit there was a small outdoor shop in
Kinlochewe village, they will almost certainly sell local
guide books/maps.

A useful book is:

TORRIDON A walker's Guide. By Peter Barton. ISBN 1 85284 022
6 My copy was printed in 1991 but it may still be in print.
The book is a pocket sized paperback and contains such
information as: 11 easy walks; 10 long or high level walks;
33 summits over 2,000ft and is illustrated with sketches and
route maps. Each walk has a reasonable amount of text that
describes the route, including approximate timings.

Don't commit yourself to Munros only. There are some good
Corbetts (2,500-3,000ft) and other decent walks that may be
more appropriate in bad visibility conditions.

--
Cheers, Compo

(AndyB) said:

Hi

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are likely
to be in this area. I also in intend to wildcamp...is this
tolerated here ? or is there a campsite nearby (grid refs
welcomed).

We were there 2 weeks ago, and the midges were worse than
I've ever known them at this time of year. And the worst
place by far was the campsite in Torridon, since it's
sheltered from pretty much any wind direction. We put up
with it for 3 nights somehow before fleeing to the Ling Hut
(one of the advantages of being in a club!). Most people
only stuck it for 1 night before leaving. There is wild
camping in the woods up the road, where the midges are
probably worse, or on the shore near the Hotel, which is
probably the least likely to be affected by midges
- but very exposed in bad weather. If you decide to risk the
campsite, it's £4 per tent per night, irrespective of
people, so if you're on your own it's very expensive.
Wherever you camp, the showers in the public toilets by
the campsite are free.

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As a relative newcomer to this, can anyone recommend a
couple of munro's / routes up them ...

An excellent introduction is Beinn Alligin, I've done it 3
times now and it's one of my favourite hills. Ben Damh is
another good one to start with. Liathach as has been
suggested is quite fun, but I think the pinnacles are
overrated - not that hard even if you take them all direct,
and every single difficulty is avoidable. I much prefer
Beinn Eighe, especially the full traverse. Only one short
scrambling section at the east end, the rest is lovely
walking, the highlight being the corrie at the NW end with
the famous Triple Buttresses.

Here's what we did during our recent trip:

Sunday (sunny) - Beinn Alligin and Beinn Dearg

Monday (cloudy) - Beinn an Eoin and Baosbheinn, 2 Corbetts
just to the north. The guidebook time is 8 hours, we took
about 10 1/2.

Tuesday (sunny) - Cioch Nose (VDiff) in Applecross. The
nearby Beinn Bhan is another excellent walk.

Wednesday (sunny) - Central Buttress on Beinn Eighe
(Severe). Including 2 pitches of new routing, due to failing
to find the start of the route as described in the
guidebook. On the summit at 9.30, back to the hut at 1.30 -
a 14 1/2 hour day.

Thursday (sunny) - Liathach via the Northern Pinnacles, then
the 'normal' traverse. Visits the north side of the mountain
which is worthwhile, but the climb to the pinnacles is a
major slog, it took us about 4 hours. The pinnacles
themselves are an anticlimax, being very short with much
loose rock.

Friday (drizzle) - rest day, went to Inverwotsit Gardens
near Poolewe

Saturday (sunny start, torrential downpour, showery finish)
- Sgorr Ruadh and Beinn Liath Mhor from the north. These are
usual done from the south, our approach was excellent and
easy due to a good stalkers path. Only 7 hours, would have
been feasible to add in Mail Chearn-dearg as well.

Sunday (sunny) - traverse of Beinn Eighe

Monday (sunny) - drove home!

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On 8 Jun 2004 04:09:56 -0700, [email hidden]

(AndyB) said:

Hi

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are
likely to be in this area. I also in intend to
wildcamp...is this tolerated here ? or is there a
campsite nearby (grid refs welcomed).

An excellent introduction is Beinn Alligin, I've done it 3
times now and it's one of my favourite hills. Ben Damh is
another good one to start with. Liathach as has been
suggested is quite fun, but I think the pinnacles are
overrated - not that hard even if you take them all
direct, and every single difficulty is avoidable. I much
prefer Beinn Eighe, especially the full traverse. Only one
short scrambling section at the east end, the rest is
lovely walking, the highlight being the corrie at the NW
end with the famous Triple Buttresses.

I wholeheartedly agree with the choice of Beinn Alligin, a
superb hill! If you have difficulty in deciding which of the
Torridon Munro's to have a bash at, try Beinn Dearg instead.
It falls just short of being a Munro by a few feet, but
don't let that put you off. In clear weather you'll get
great views of all the Torridon Munro's, but it can be
tricky finding your way down if it all closes in.

Have fun....

Dave

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Ben Damh is another good one to start with.

A vote here for Ben Damh, too. Lovely hill.

Chris

Joe Bloggs said:

at, try Beinn Dearg instead. It falls just short of being a
Munro by a few feet, but don't let that put you off. In
clear weather you'll get great views of all the Torridon
Munro's, but it can be tricky finding your way down if it
all closes in.

I'll second that. I came down the steeper of the two gullies
to the south of the summit having intended to take the less
steep one. Definitely a descent for making use of two poles
on very steep grass.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

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Quoted message said:

Hi

Going to visit Torridon next week to see this amazing
landscape. Can anyone tell me how bad the midges are
likely to be in this area. I also in intend to
wildcamp...is this tolerated here ? or is there a
campsite nearby (grid refs welcomed).

An excellent introduction is Beinn Alligin, I've done it
3 times now and it's one of my favourite hills. Ben Damh
is another good one to start with. Liathach as has been
suggested is quite fun, but I think the pinnacles are
overrated - not that hard even if you take them all
direct, and every single difficulty is avoidable. I much
prefer Beinn Eighe, especially the full traverse. Only
one short scrambling section at the east end, the rest
is lovely walking, the highlight being the corrie at the
NW end with the famous Triple Buttresses.

I wholeheartedly agree with the choice of Beinn Alligin, a
superb hill!

And the ayes, for Beinn Alligin, have it! Me too.

KRO

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I wholeheartedly agree with the choice of Beinn Alligin, a
superb hill! If you have difficulty in deciding which of
the Torridon Munro's to have a bash at, try Beinn Dearg
instead. It falls just short of being a Munro by a few
feet, but don't let that put you off. In clear weather
you'll get great views of all the Torridon Munro's, but it
can be tricky finding your way down if it all closes in.

Or even do Beinn Dearg as well! It's a long
descent/reascent, but there's plenty of scope for scrambling
which makes it seem less bad somehow.

Either way, if you're doing a west-east traverse of Dearg,
then don't (as we did) descend from the col just before the
eastern top. The OS
1:50000 doesn't show any crags here, but there are plenty of
them, it makes for a slow descent. Instead, continue to
the eastern summit, then descend south east towards to
lochans. If going east to west, then the easiest way down
is probably the NW 'ridge'.

S.