vintage brooks saddle

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I have no idea if these are worth anything

It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters". Apply
some leather treatment and ride it. If you dont want it I'll give you $5.

I thought I had gold when I discovered a brand new B17 in a truckload of stuff I got from an
abandoned bike store. Unfortunately, I think the highest offer I got on
rec.bicycles.marketplace was $30.

Sorry.
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hey guys,

I have a vintage B17 narrow Champion brooks saddle I salvaged off a relic

of

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a bike a few years ago. Its quite old and in ok shape. I have no idea if these are worth anything.
Maybe someone else does.

Sorry, no pics to show.

"Manimal" wrote ...

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hey guys,

I have a vintage B17 narrow Champion brooks saddle I salvaged off a relic

of

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a bike a few years ago. Its quite old and in ok shape. I have no idea if these are worth anything.
Maybe someone else does.

Sorry, no pics to show.

Brooks is still making a wide range of old school high quality leather saddles, which limits the
value of the old ones. Clean it up, put it on your bike, and ride it.
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mark

(Jkpoulos7) said:

It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".
Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

Make sure you use "Proofide" (sp? maybe Proofhide?) on it.

There's some other stuff out there that lets the leather stretch all out of shape and you'll be
riding the rails if you do that. Proofide isn't cheap, but it is what you need.

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It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".
Apply some leather treatment and ride it. If you dont want it I'll give you $5.

And you're the guy that rides a steel frame.

Come on, get with the times. Brooks is dead.

I like the looks of a 135 gram Sella Italia SLR on my oversized AL frame.

Guys like me junked the cowhide two decades ago!

See just how far out of it you are?

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:29:29 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> from Shaw Residential

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Jkpoulos7 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".
Apply some leather treatment and ride it. If you dont want it I'll give you $5.

And you're the guy that rides a steel frame.

Come on, get with the times. Brooks is dead.

I like the looks of a 135 gram Sella Italia SLR on my oversized AL frame.

Guys like me junked the cowhide two decades ago!

See just how far out of it you are?

I dunno. I'm thinking of getting a Surly Steamroller for winter fixie riding and I was going to put
a B17 on it just for giggles. Anything goes in November and December. You even see some pros on
those juvenile delinquent mountain bikes.

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I have no idea if these are worth anything

It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".

SOME folks find leather saddles comfortable. I'm not one of them.

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Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

I don't have to do anything to my saddle except ride it.

[censored] Durbin

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

Jkpoulos7 wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".
Apply some leather treatment and ride it. If you dont want it I'll give you $5.

And you're the guy that rides a steel frame.

Come on, get with the times. Brooks is dead.

I like the looks of a 135 gram Sella Italia SLR on my oversized AL frame.

Guys like me junked the cowhide two decades ago!

See just how far out of it you are?

But think of it more in art and aesthetics terms.

If the bike is of the proper color or color combination, addition of a Brooks in "honey" can be a
real aesthetic addition to the bike.

I've found the appearance of my dark forest green Trek 520 is much enhanced with the addition of the
honey brown Brooks. It's a real style statement that a person with such sensitivities as yourself
can much appreciate, and make even better by the knowledge that many others are incapable of
perceiving the improvement!

And of course, the heavier saddle can be useful for training purposes. Get back on your lightweight
aluminum and plastic mount and you fly!

[The above stated in a very deep, manly voice of course!]

SMH

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I have no idea if these are worth anything

It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".

SOME folks find leather saddles comfortable. I'm not one of them.

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Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

I don't have to do anything to my saddle except ride it.

[censored] Durbin

On benefit to leather saddles is that they mold to your body. Non-leather saddles basically cause
your body to mold to them. However, I've ridden most of my miles on a non-leather saddle. Now that I
have a Brooks, though, I don't plan on going back to non-leather. My mountain bike is still
non-leather, though.

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. Anything goes in November and December. You even see some pros on those juvenile delinquent
mountain bikes.

Not class guys like Me and Michele Bartoli !

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And of course, the heavier saddle can be useful for training purposes. Get back on your lightweight
aluminum and plastic mount and you fly!

Stephen, at my level of cycling a winter junker is something like a C-40 or Fondreist P4 that has
seen a season of racing, and as far as saddles go the Selle Italia Flite is now considered the retro
classic - don't go lower than level, people notice!

It's safe to write someone off if they own a Brooks. You don't want to be seen with that type.

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On 5 Aug 2003 04:44:02 -0700, [censored] Durbin <[email hidden]> wrote:

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SOME folks find leather saddles comfortable. I'm not one of them.

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Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

I don't have to do anything to my saddle except ride it.

[censored] Durbin

On benefit to leather saddles is that they mold to your body. Non-leather saddles basically cause
your body to mold to them. However, I've ridden most of my miles on a non-leather saddle. Now that
I have a Brooks, though, I don't plan on going back to non-leather. My mountain bike is still
non-leather, though.

I haven't tried a leather saddle, but I assure you my butt has not molded to the shape of my
plastic saddle.

The trick is to ensure that the primary point of contact between butt and saddle is your sit bones.
Get that right, and bliss ensues. Everything else is details.

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Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] sfu.ca~rcousineOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

It's safe to write someone off if they own a Brooks. You don't want to be seen with that type.

Oh dear!

I was hoping the power of aesthetics might save me in the eyes of "real [tm]" bicyclists but hearing
this from you leaves me thinking I'm just destined to pedal my life through as member of the
bicycling fashion and style damned.

Rather sad I suppose.

SMH

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Guys like me junked the cowhide two decades ago!

I thought two decades ago guys like you were zygotes.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:10:43 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email hidden]> from Shaw Residential

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Kevan Smith wrote in message ...

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. Anything goes in November and December. You even see some pros on those juvenile delinquent
mountain bikes.

Not class guys like Me and Michele Bartoli !

Of course not.

The coffee shop i go to won't even let you in the door if you show up on anything but
compact-geometry road frame. That's the way life should be!

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spaceship!!
1:00:19 PM 5 August 2003

Ryan Cousineau said:

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On 5 Aug 2003 04:44:02 -0700, [censored] Durbin <[email hidden]> wrote:

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SOME folks find leather saddles comfortable. I'm not one of them.

> Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

I don't have to do anything to my saddle except ride it.

[censored] Durbin

On benefit to leather saddles is that they mold to your body. Non- leather saddles basically
cause your body to mold to them. However, I've ridden most of my miles on a non-leather saddle.
Now that I have a Brooks, though, I don't plan on going back to non-leather. My mountain bike is
still non-leather, though.

I haven't tried a leather saddle, but I assure you my butt has not molded to the shape of my
plastic saddle.

The trick is to ensure that the primary point of contact between butt and saddle is your sit
bones. Get that right, and bliss ensues. Everything else is details.

I don't know -- I've done that and I find some saddles, particularly gel saddles, to be quite
fatiguing. I gave up on a wide gel saddle because of that. My point was that I have non-leather
saddles that still look exactly like they did when I bought them. My Brooks looks like my butt.
It's indented where my sit bones are and it forms to me. On my non-leather saddles, my butt forms
to the seat.

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I have no idea if these are worth anything

It's worth riding. Try a brooks and you'll never go back to one of those plastic "numnutters".

SOME folks find leather saddles comfortable. I'm not one of them.

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Apply some leather treatment and ride it.

I don't have to do anything to my saddle except ride it.

Lucky you, but this is not an issue unless you're too lazy to spend 30 seconds of effort every six
months or so.

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Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber

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On benefit to leather saddles is that they mold to your body.

Which is fine if non-leather saddles aren't comfortable for you. I'm lucky, I guess, in that I have
never had trouble finding a non-leather saddle that is comfortable. To be sure, I have had some that
were not comfortable but I have never had to resort to the extra weight and maintenance required of
a leather saddle.

In my younger days I succumbed to the Old World notion that I needed to be riding a leather saddle.
I bought an Ideale 90 which I never could get comfortable on. I sold it to a guy who uses it to
drive roofing nails. :-)

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Come on, get with the times. Brooks is dead.

At least in some bike shops, you are right. I needed some Proofide for my Brooks saddle, and stopped
in a bike shop I was unfamiliar with.

me: "Do you have any Proofide?" them: "What's that for?"
mf: "It's a treatment for leather saddles." them: "Nobody rides leather saddles anymore."
mg: "I've got a leather saddle." them: "Well, uh, uh, uh, well, we don't have any. You could just
use shoe polish."

(I believe the "shoe polish" remark was said out of ignorance and momentary confusion, not malice.)