Very useful riding technique.

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear

logs

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big as my wheel doing this.

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Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

The only problem is this technique only works on hexagonal
logs. The logs I usually see in the wild (I call these
XTreme Logs) are less hexagonal and more round. Therefore
when your tire hits it, the two round surfaces tend to
cancel each other out and your rotational torque due to the
two spinning round shapes cause a sideways force that might
end up in a crash.

Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear logs big as my wheel doing this.

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Here's another example:

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Round logs, too ;-) --dt

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear

logs

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big as my wheel doing this.

adksportsfitness.commtb.htmlOpen ↗

Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

"Now, skill and timing are needed. Start as before, and just
after setting the front wheel on the X lean forward slightly
and use your feet (a pedal/cleat system is needed so your
shoes are firmly attached to the pedals)"

Oi! Myself and almost every trials rider in the world have
obviously being doing something wrong then.

Steve.

Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear logs big as my wheel doing this.

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Hmm, I shall have to bear that in mind. Every time I want to
clear a five inch log I'll put on full face helmet, knee and
elbow pads, an MX vest and have two spotters at the side
ready to grab me "if anything bad happens"
🙂

Tis a good technique, especially for getting up stuff, but
it is bloody hard to get right for logs. The problem with
the article is that is does not really differentiate between
the two. Riding up on to a ledge is fine because your front
wheel remains at the same height and you can garner the
leverage to bring the rear up.

Using that same sort of leverage to get yourself over a log
is much more difficult because your front wheel only has
momentary contact with the log. In fact, what Mr Thomann is
actually advocating is closer to what is known, in bmx
circles, as a 'nose bonk'. This is where both wheels are off
the ground before you bang the front wheel on the log.

I'd disagree with Mr Thomann when he says that this is a
manoeuver that can be done at any speed. The larger the log,
the greater the momentum needed to clear it, the greater the
chance of screwing up royally. Getting the timing down to
nose bonk a 2' log is difficult, to say the least.

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
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That video was a pain in the arz. First I thought it was my
non IE browser that it wouldn't work. Then I tried IE, it
still wouldn't work. Then I dug out the properties of the
video, found it's location, and tried that, it still
wouldn't work. So finally I put the video location into a
download manager, pulled it down manually, and then played
it that way.

Thanks, but without body armour, which here in Aus is
big dollars, I haven't the guts to try the practice I'd
need anyway.

Trentus

Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear logs big as my wheel doing this.

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That's the move that probably gives me the most trouble. My
right shoulder is much weaker than the left, so my wheel
tends to turn when I pull up like that. (It also hurts like
a muvva, so I tense up on approach, anticipating the pain.)
But hey, MD, thanks for rubbing it in! 🙂

Bill "hiker biker when necessary" S.

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear

logs

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big as my wheel doing this.

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Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

Thats what I do. I've cleared one log bigger than my wheels
- so it definitely works. And I actually did it going fairly
slowly. As long as you have the balance and the vertical
leap, you can literally get the front wheel on the log, hop
once or twice, and then jump the back wheel up onto the log.
Its definitely a lot easier with some forward momentum
though! Its hard to do really fast too, you end up slamming
you rear wheel into it or just hopping the whole log - which
is really just a bunnyhop, and a lot harder than the touch-
jump technique.

Jon Bond

Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear logs big as my wheel doing this.

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check this out: (slightly higher than a wheel <g>😉 sitting-
duck.home.comcast.net/hop.mpg

sittingduck said:

sitting-duck.home.comcast.net/hop.mpg

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sittingduck said:

Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear logs big as my wheel doing this.

adksportsfitness.commtb.htmlOpen ↗

check this out: (slightly higher than a wheel <g>😉 sitting-
duck.home.comcast.net/hop.mpg

The front wheel tapped on the way up...doesn't count, better
luck next time.

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
can now clear

logs

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big as my wheel doing this.

adksportsfitness.commtb.htmlOpen ↗

Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

You should learn how to do this with flat pedals first.
Learning with clipless will just promote bad habits.

jack said:

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
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tb.html

Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

You should learn how to do this with flat pedals first.
Learning with clipless will just promote bad habits.

Tell us! What are the bad habits we don't wan't to promote?

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Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Both websites are great examples of jumping technique. I
like the weight forward idea, have to try that.

A few years ago when I was riding more and in decent shape I
thought I was a fairly good jumper. I was in a 30km Enduro
race and was making good time, fairly confident, and all
that. I went to jump a log and what the hell happened I will
never know. I think I stalled on top of the log, lost my
balance and came down on the bike and then bang! on the
ground. When I got up my saddle was bent sideways and there
was no way to bend it back. I rode for about 2km like that
and thankfully came to a way station. There was an SUV there
and the dude did not want to let me use his tire iron. When
I showed him my bike he gave in and I managed to straighten
the seat enough to finish the race. Finished 20th out of 80
racers so its nice to think I could have done better if not
for that log.

Moral of the story? - Never think you're a decent jumper
because thats just about when you're due for a crash.

Sniffinvinyl
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Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

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Michael Dart said:

Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
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logs

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big as my wheel doing this.

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Here's another example:

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Round logs, too ;-) --dt

Per Elmsäter said:

Tell us! What are the bad habits we don't wan't to
promote?

Relying on your feet to lift the bike, instead of your
hands.

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Per Elmsäter said:

Tell us! What are the bad habits we don't wan't to
promote?

Relying on your feet to lift the bike, instead of
your hands.

Yeah, using your hands and upper body.

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Especially in post Isabel (hurricane) Virginia and NC. I
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Note to barneys: Please learn this and STOP piling loose
sticks over 7" logs to ramp over them. I'm !@#$ing tired
of fixing broken spokes and replacing derailleurs.

Mike

You should learn how to do this with flat pedals first.
Learning with clipless will just promote bad habits.

Like smoking bad habits?

TM said:

Like smoking bad habits?

Like biking bad habits.

sittingduck said:

TM said:

Like smoking bad habits?

Like biking bad habits.

So if using clipless pedals for jumping is a "bad habit",
what other components must we also not use?

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So if using clipless pedals for jumping is a "bad habit",
what other components must we also not use?

<raises hand and jumps around>

TOECLIPS!!