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  1. Today I got someone else's (JTC2 via Jim "The edge" in N.C.)message he sent to valleybikes.com, to
    get removed from their mailing list. I thought that was a good idea -- didn't think about how <I>
    received the email -- and so I composed and sent a similar email to valleybikes. Results: Evidently
    my email to valleybikes was received by: Ed Gin, [email hidden], topica.com (Narr.Bay Wheelmen
    mail-list), and 3 categories of lists at ihpva.com!!! Is it just me, or does valleybikes.com or
    ihpva.com have a virus? I'm using a Mac and thought I was immune to viruses. Anyone else having
    this problem?

    C.C.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Today I got someone else's (JTC2 via Jim "The edge" in N.C.)message he sent to valleybikes.com, to
    get removed from their mailing list. I thought that was a good idea -- didn't think about how <I>
    received the email -- and so I composed and sent a similar email to valleybikes. Results:
    Evidently my email to valleybikes was received by: Ed Gin, [email hidden], topica.com
    (Narr.Bay Wheelmen mail-list), and 3 categories of lists at ihpva.com!!! Is it just me, or does
    valleybikes.com or ihpva.com have a virus? I'm using a Mac and thought I was immune to viruses.
    Anyone else having this problem?

    C.C.

    Valleybikes put all the mailing list addresses on a listserve so when you replied to the message, it
    is sent to everyone subscribed to that list.

    To get off the list:

    send an email to:

    [email hidden]

    There are three lists:

    announcements sitdownfun valleybikes

    Choose the list you are receiving mail from and put:

    unsubscribe <listname>

    That should get ya off the list. It just worked for me.

    --
    ___________________
    John Rooker KC2KQT Rochester, NY

  3. I was just getting ready to post the same question as I got two messages like that. One from a well
    known US dealer and one from somebody I'd never heard of. One was not very pleasant. The person was
    very upset that I had him on my list. I wondered how he got ME on HIS list. Then I noticed it was
    aimed at Valley, whom's list I am on. I didn't want to reply to the e-mails or e-mail Valley for the
    reasons Carol mentioned.

    [email hidden] (Carol Cohen) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Today I got someone else's (JTC2 via Jim "The edge" in N.C.)message he sent to valleybikes.com, to
    get removed from their mailing list. I thought that was a good idea -- didn't think about how <I>
    received the email -- and so I composed and sent a similar email to valleybikes. Results:
    Evidently my email to valleybikes was received by: Ed Gin, [email hidden], topica.com
    (Narr.Bay Wheelmen mail-list), and 3 categories of lists at ihpva.com!!! Is it just me, or does
    valleybikes.com or ihpva.com have a virus? I'm using a Mac and thought I was immune to viruses.
    Anyone else having this problem?

    C.C.

  4. [email hidden] (Carol Cohen) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Today I got someone else's (JTC2 via Jim "The edge" in N.C.)message he sent to valleybikes.com, to
    get removed from their mailing list. I thought that was a good idea -- didn't think about how <I>
    received the email -- and so I composed and sent a similar email to valleybikes. Results:
    Evidently my email to valleybikes was received by: Ed Gin, [email hidden], topica.com
    (Narr.Bay Wheelmen mail-list), and 3 categories of lists at ihpva.com!!! Is it just me, or does
    valleybikes.com or ihpva.com have a virus? I'm using a Mac and thought I was immune to viruses.
    Anyone else having this problem?

    C.C.

    I got 8 different "remove me from your list emails". I am glad I didn't reply to any. I just
    deleated them. Marci

  5. Marci,

    I just received 12 "remove me" emails too, like you I just deleated them.

    Ed

    Marci Taylor said:

    [email hidden] (Carol Cohen) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Today I got someone else's (JTC2 via Jim "The edge" in N.C.)message he sent to valleybikes.com,
    to get removed from their mailing list. I thought that was a good idea -- didn't think about how
    <I> received the email -- and so I composed and sent a similar email to valleybikes. Results:
    Evidently my email to valleybikes was received by: Ed Gin, [email hidden], topica.com
    (Narr.Bay Wheelmen mail-list), and 3 categories of lists at ihpva.com!!! Is it just me, or does
    valleybikes.com or ihpva.com have a virus? I'm using a Mac and thought I was immune to viruses.
    Anyone else having this problem?

    C.C.

    I got 8 different "remove me from your list emails". I am glad I didn't reply to any. I just
    deleated them. Marci

  6. John Rooker said:

    Valleybikes put all the mailing list addresses on a listserve so when you replied to the message,
    it is sent to everyone subscribed to that list.

    Incidentally, this is why mailing list servers shouldn't be configured to put the list address on
    the "From" or "Reply-to" header. If you do, people try to reply to the sender and end up sending the
    reply to the entire list. IHPVA lists are configured correctly so if you want to reply to the entire
    list, you need to select "Reply to all" instead of "Reply".

    Ken Kobayashi [email hidden] solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jppersonal

  7. Ken Kobayashi <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    John Rooker said:

    Valleybikes put all the mailing list addresses on a listserve so when you replied to the message,
    it is sent to everyone subscribed to that list.

    Incidentally, this is why mailing list servers shouldn't be configured to put the list address on
    the "From" or "Reply-to" header. If you do, people try to reply to the sender and end up sending
    the reply to the entire list. IHPVA lists are configured correctly so if you want to reply to the
    entire list, you need to select "Reply to all" instead of "Reply".

    Neh. Technically, "From" should be the original sender of the message, and "Reply-to" should be the
    list address. Your mail reader should _ask_ you which you want to send it to if they are different;
    of course Microshaft assumes it knows what you want to do and picks for you. in this case, Eudora
    does the same. I use Pegasus mail at home, and it gives me a dialog when I reply to a message with
    all sorts of nifty options; from work I telent into my account and use Pine, which asks "do you want
    to use the reply-to address instead?" when there's a reply-to in the message.

    If the mail clients were written properly, it wouldn't be a problem and people wouldn't have to
    guess what the list address is.

    Besides, the presence of a reply-to set to the list address isn't the point here. This would have
    happened even if the originating list were one at IHPVA. The point here is that he sent a message to
    the list to inform them that someone had a virus, and the message then got forwarded to multiple
    other addresses. The person who is infected has all those other addresses in his address book, and
    the virus resent itself to them randomly and automatically. His message was sent to the list on
    purpose, not by accident, and the only way to have prevented the forwarded versions is if the
    infected computer didn't have any addresses in its address book.

    -Bill Hamilton

  8. Bill Hamilton said:

    Neh. Technically, "From" should be the original sender of the message, and "Reply-to" should be the
    list address.

    That's not an ideal solution. Some people actually use the "Reply-to" address to indicate where they
    want the replies to go to. It may be different from the From: address for various reasons. (e.g. the
    "From" address may be their current temporary address and the one in the "Reply-to" may be a
    forwarding service.) The contents of the "Reply-to" should not be overwritten by the list server.

    Quoted message said:

    Besides, the presence of a reply-to set to the list address isn't the point here. This would have
    happened even if the originating list were one at IHPVA. The point here is that he sent a message
    to the list to inform them that someone had a virus, and the message then got forwarded to multiple
    other addresses.

    True, but reconfiguring the list server would have prevented the "Please take me off the list"
    messages from circulating to the whole list.

    Ken Kobayashi [email hidden] solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jppersonal

  9. I received the e-mail too. But this is no suprise. I am still on valley bikes' mailing list though I have requested numerous times since Dave Doty left to be taken off.

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