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  1. If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center pocket.
    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can be
    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The reason
    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his tracking
    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

  2. Think that's his radio.

    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center


    pocket.

    Quoted message said:

    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can


    be

    Quoted message said:

    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The


    reason

    Quoted message said:

    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his


    tracking

    Quoted message said:

    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for


    them

    Quoted message said:

    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

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  3. "Klaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Think that's his radio.

    Yeah, good point. I did think of that too. It was pretty big for receive
    only but maybe that is all they have (2 way). I saw the earpiece (that thing
    looked like a hearing aid) and it looked almost like it could have been a
    one piece receiver because it had a wire hanging from it that could have
    been an antennae for reception only. That box was definitely big enough to
    have a transmitter for voice communication and any other signal.

    Maybe Jeff knows?

    Quoted message said:

    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center


    pocket.

    Quoted message said:

    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his


    pulse

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can


    be

    Quoted message said:

    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The


    reason

    Quoted message said:

    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he


    looks

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his


    tracking

    Quoted message said:

    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for


    them

    Quoted message said:

    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

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  4. I thought the use of telemetry was common knowledge. I can't imagine a team
    not using it nowadays, it would be too tedious to be counting cadence and
    speed real-time. Now they can measure power output too.

    http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/tech/articles/6461.0.html

    Here's an example of actual data:
    http://2peak.com/tools/alpe/1.php

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    Disclaimer: This post is solely an individual opinion and does not speak on
    behalf of any organization.

  5. "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Klaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Think that's his radio.

    Yeah, good point. I did think of that too. It was pretty big for receive
    only but maybe that is all they have (2 way). I saw the earpiece (that


    thing

    Quoted message said:

    looked like a hearing aid) and it looked almost like it could have been a
    one piece receiver because it had a wire hanging from it that could have
    been an antennae for reception only. That box was definitely big enough to
    have a transmitter for voice communication and any other signal.

    Maybe Jeff knows?


    It's obviously his spare pack of energizers :-)

    Jeff

  6. Jeff Jones said:

    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Klaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Think that's his radio.

    Yeah, good point. I did think of that too. It was pretty big for
    receive only but maybe that is all they have (2 way). I saw the
    earpiece (that thing looked like a hearing aid) and it looked almost
    like it could have been a one piece receiver because it had a wire
    hanging from it that could have been an antennae for reception only.
    That box was definitely big enough to have a transmitter for voice
    communication and any other signal.

    Maybe Jeff knows?


    It's obviously his spare pack of energizers :-)

    Jeff

    Apple iPod.

  7. You are correct, and it's sent to Dr. Ferrari in Italy every day for
    feedback.

    Chris said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center pocket.
    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can be
    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The reason
    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his tracking
    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

  8. Believe it or not, all the data is sent to Dr. Ferrari in Italy.
    Crawford has quite a long explanation on one of the websites...

    Chris said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center pocket.
    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can be
    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The reason
    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his tracking
    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center pocket.
    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can be
    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The reason
    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his tracking
    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

    I aw that too. My guess is that it is just his two way radio.
    -----------
    Alex

  10. "Earle Self" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Believe it or not, all the data is sent to Dr. Ferrari in Italy.
    Crawford has quite a long explanation on one of the websites...

    Well, I guess we all already knew that Carmichael wasn't Armstrong's *real*
    coach.

    Andy Coggan

  11. Dean said:

    I thought the use of telemetry was common knowledge. I can't imagine a team
    not using it nowadays, it would be too tedious to be counting cadence and
    speed real-time. Now they can measure power output too.

    http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/tech/articles/6461.0.html

    Here's an example of actual data:
    http://2peak.com/tools/alpe/1.php

    Lance doesn't look like he's wearing a Polar chest strap --
    e.g., the pix of him climbing with his jersey open --
    does he have another type of heart rate monitor?

  12. Alex Rodriguez said:


    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    If you look closely at Lance's skinsuit, there is a rectangular box
    underneath the suit right above where a normal jersey has its center pocket.
    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry for his pulse
    and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc. but all of those can be
    calculated by observation). Does anyone know if this is the case? The reason
    I suspect this is that I hear his HR number quoted from races where he has
    no visible HRM. Maybe he wears an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks
    though) and it is also sent to the team to record and place in his tracking
    database. I know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

    I aw that too. My guess is that it is just his two way radio.

    Which could be used to send telemetry along with voice.

  13. gwhite said:


    Which could be used to send telemetry along with voice.

    It proves he's cyborg. Everything falls into place.

  14. gwhite <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Alex Rodriguez said:


    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...


    I have long suspected that Lance uses some kind of telemetry

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for his pulse and possibly other signals (cadence, velocity, etc.
    but all of those can be calculated by observation). Does anyone know
    if this is the case? The reason I suspect this is that I hear his HR
    number quoted from races where he has no visible HRM. Maybe he wears
    an HRM watch for his use (I doubt he looks though) and it is also
    sent to the team to record and place in his tracking database. I
    know they use one and I can't figure out any other way for them
    to get that info from him while he is racing.

    Any ideas?

    I aw that too. My guess is that it is just his two way radio.

    Which could be used to send telemetry along with voice.

    Yes, most of the big teams transmit heartrate etc. If you read Lances
    book, he tells of his "coach" or manager back in the car telling him it's
    OK to attack or don't go now, HR's to high etc. He says at one point the
    manager said it was ok to go cause his HR was only 180. The manager also
    advised him on occasion that cadence was too high. All this was during
    his first victory in 99.

    Dale

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