USPS Replacement Sponsorship

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Hey,

USPS Replacement Sponsorship. NASCAR. It has been confirmed. 9-25-04.

Thanks,
Ronde Champ

I had a special jersey made up with a Dale Earnhart "3" on it so I could
survive training on the rural roads down here in the deep south. (Nobody
would dare do anything to anyone wearing Dale's revered number.)

Little did I know ...

Bob C.

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USPS Replacement Sponsorship. NASCAR. It has been confirmed. 9-25-04.

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USPS Replacement Sponsorship.

Robin Williams.... com'on think about it. It could work. 🙂

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I had a special jersey made up with a Dale Earnhart "3" on it so I could
survive training on the rural roads down here in the deep south. (Nobody
would dare do anything to anyone wearing Dale's revered number.)

At least you didn't put "24" on it. You would have really been a
target.
For those of you outside of NASCAR country, just ask any ol' red
neckeddy boy. He'll 'splain it to you.

[censored] "boogety, boogety, boogety" Durbin
Tallahassee

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From: [email hidden] ([censored] Durbin)

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At least you didn't put "24" on it. You would have really been a
target.
For those of you outside of NASCAR country, just ask any ol' red
neckeddy boy. He'll 'splain it to you.

[censored] "boogety, boogety, boogety" Durbin
Tallahassee

There is nothing!! wrong with running over whiny, pansy ass, crybaby, #24, or
purty boy's supporters.
Haven't found a good AJ Foyt sticker to put on my '72 F-250 yet.
Bill C

TritonRider said:

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From: [email hidden] ([censored] Durbin)

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At least you didn't put "24" on it. You would have really been a
target.
For those of you outside of NASCAR country, just ask any ol' red
neckeddy boy. He'll 'splain it to you.

[censored] "boogety, boogety, boogety" Durbin
Tallahassee

There is nothing!! wrong with running over whiny, pansy ass, crybaby, #24, or
purty boy's supporters.
Haven't found a good AJ Foyt sticker to put on my '72 F-250 yet.
Bill C

There's some AJ's gas pumps showing up in Central California. I kinda
wonder if that's Foyt. Mario Andretti has a pump not far from here, too.

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From: Benjamin Weiner [email hidden]

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About the closest equivalent in cycling is LANCE or Cipo-hating,
but it seems not quite as deeply heartfelt. (J-M Leblanc loves LANCE
because he stirred things up. I hope now that the French press
likes LANCE after last year, that his usefulness to Leblanc is not
at an end.)

I think that the Tifosi are still as crazy for their riders, as Nascar fans
are, but you're right, there is no love/hate rivalry in cycling to match what's
going on in Nascar. Jan just can't seem to keep it together enough to be taken
seriously until after the Tour` starts. There was some of it brewing between
the sprinters, but Cipo dominated, now it looks like it'll be Petachi, so no
great rivalry there.
I love the old school guys who would race bathtubs downhill if someone scored
it.
To get it on two wheels, people like Jay Springsteen, Eddie Lawson, Bob Hannah
etc..are the ones who do it for me.
Don't know if you motorcycle types have seen it, I just saw them today, some
company is making steel kid type lunchboxes with MX greats on them. I didn't
drop the $22 for the Hannah, but I was tempted.
Bill C

TritonRider said:

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From: [email hidden] ([censored] Durbin)

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At least you didn't put "24" on it. You would have really been a target.
For those of you outside of NASCAR country, just ask any ol' red
neckeddy boy. He'll 'splain it to you.

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There is nothing!! wrong with running over whiny, pansy ass, crybaby, #24, or
purty boy's supporters.
Haven't found a good AJ Foyt sticker to put on my '72 F-250 yet.

NASCAR has done a great job setting up a little soap opera -
the polar opposition of "soft" #24 (you bet he lives in a subdivision
and drives a minivan on off days, right?) versus the hard-nosed
redneck old school, now represented by Junior, I guess.
It's almost like pro wrestling, where they have the guy who
wins a lot but everyone loves to hate. Or like the Yankees,
or Cowboys (when they were good). If they didn't win so much
you couldn't hate them. The soap opera keeps the fans interested,
so that every time somebody [censored] about #24 it's money in
Bill and Brian France's pockets.

About the closest equivalent in cycling is LANCE or Cipo-hating,
but it seems not quite as deeply heartfelt. (J-M Leblanc loves LANCE
because he stirred things up. I hope now that the French press
likes LANCE after last year, that his usefulness to Leblanc is not
at an end.)

"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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NASCAR has done a great job setting up a little soap opera -
the polar opposition of "soft" #24 (you bet he lives in a subdivision
and drives a minivan on off days, right?) versus the hard-nosed
redneck old school, now represented by Junior, I guess.
It's almost like pro wrestling, where they have the guy who
wins a lot but everyone loves to hate. Or like the Yankees,
or Cowboys (when they were good). If they didn't win so much
you couldn't hate them. The soap opera keeps the fans interested,
so that every time somebody [censored] about #24 it's money in
Bill and Brian France's pockets.

How little you really know about NASCAR, Gordon is still one of the most
respected drivers in NASCAR, and he and Junior are quite good friends, that
friendship grew out of the respect that Gordon had for Juniors father, And
no Gordon doesn't live in a subdivision, and typically gets to and from
races in his own jet. NASCARS' soap opera is Tony Stewart

Dave

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From: "Dave H" [email hidden]

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How little you really know about NASCAR, Gordon is still one of the most
respected drivers in NASCAR, and he and Junior are quite good friends, that
friendship grew out of the respect that Gordon had for Juniors father, And
no Gordon doesn't live in a subdivision, and typically gets to and from
races in his own jet. NASCARS' soap opera is Tony Stewart

Dave

Blah, Blah, Blah... Gordon causes [censored], then get's his bodyguards to stop him
from getting punched in the head. He is so SoCal, image is everything. He's a
great driver, but he's a POS as a human. Tony Stewart is at least real. He does
his thing, get's [censored], does stupid [censored], takes the hit for it, and goes on.
he doesn't call his bodyguards and lawyers.
Jeff Gordon = Roberto Gaggioli
Bill C

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"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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NASCAR has done a great job setting up a little soap opera -
the polar opposition of "soft" #24 (you bet he lives in a subdivision
and drives a minivan on off days, right?) versus the hard-nosed
redneck old school, now represented by Junior, I guess.
It's almost like pro wrestling, where they have the guy who
wins a lot but everyone loves to hate. Or like the Yankees,
or Cowboys (when they were good). If they didn't win so much
you couldn't hate them. The soap opera keeps the fans interested,
so that every time somebody [censored] about #24 it's money in
Bill and Brian France's pockets.

How little you really know about NASCAR, Gordon is still one of the most
respected drivers in NASCAR, and he and Junior are quite good friends,

that

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friendship grew out of the respect that Gordon had for Juniors father, And
no Gordon doesn't live in a subdivision, and typically gets to and from
races in his own jet. NASCARS' soap opera is Tony Stewart

Dave

Maybe it's because Gordon and that whiney-ass Montoya traded seats for an
afternoon last June in Indianapolis and the NASCAR set can't stand the
champagne set.

"TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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From: "Dave H" [email hidden]

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How little you really know about NASCAR, Gordon is still one of the most
respected drivers in NASCAR, and he and Junior are quite good friends, that
friendship grew out of the respect that Gordon had for Juniors father, And
no Gordon doesn't live in a subdivision, and typically gets to and from
races in his own jet. NASCARS' soap opera is Tony Stewart

Dave

Blah, Blah, Blah... Gordon causes [censored], then get's his bodyguards to stop him
from getting punched in the head. He is so SoCal, image is everything. He's a
great driver, but he's a POS as a human. Tony Stewart is at least real. He does
his thing, get's [censored], does stupid [censored], takes the hit for it, and goes on.
he doesn't call his bodyguards and lawyers.
Jeff Gordon = Roberto Gaggioli
Bill C

Pro cycling requires more skill and courage than a NASCAR driver, and
better physical shape than an ultramarathoner.

Mike

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(TritonRider) said:

Blah, Blah, Blah... Gordon causes [censored], then get's his bodyguards to stop
him from getting punched in the head. He is so SoCal, image is everything.
He's a great driver, but he's a POS as a human. Tony Stewart is at least
real. He does his thing, get's [censored], does stupid [censored], takes the hit for
it, and goes on. he doesn't call his bodyguards and lawyers.
Jeff Gordon = Roberto Gaggioli
Bill C

Well, that sorta elevates Roberto a few spots, then... I haven't
followed Nascar much since around '93 (and not at all since '98), so I
can't speak for Gordon's recent behavior. But he was very different from
what you describe back when I saw him racing sprint cars at Baylands in
Fremont before he even had a driver's license. Times do change people,
though.

--
tanx,
Howard

"Moby [censored] was a work of art, What the hell happened?"

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(TritonRider) said:

To get it on two wheels, people like Jay Springsteen, Eddie Lawson, Bob
Hannah etc..are the ones who do it for me.

Viva Agostini!

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Don't know if you motorcycle types have seen it, I just saw them today, some
company is making steel kid type lunchboxes with MX greats on them. I didn't
drop the $22 for the Hannah, but I was tempted.
Bill C

What about Brad Lackey, Roger Decoster or Joel Robert? (Not like I'm
going to even search out something like this, but still...)

--
tanx,
Howard

"Moby [censored] was a work of art, What the hell happened?"

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From: Howard Kveck [email hidden]

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What about Brad Lackey, Roger Decoster or Joel Robert? (Not like I'm
going to even search out something like this, but still...)

--
tanx,
Howard

Here's the link. Not too many available yet.
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/detail.asp?id=876
Bill C

Dave H said:

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NASCAR has done a great job setting up a little soap opera -
the polar opposition of "soft" #24 (you bet he lives in a subdivision
and drives a minivan on off days, right?) versus the hard-nosed
redneck old school, now represented by Junior, I guess.
It's almost like pro wrestling, where they have the guy who
wins a lot but everyone loves to hate. Or like the Yankees,
or Cowboys (when they were good). If they didn't win so much
you couldn't hate them. The soap opera keeps the fans interested,
so that every time somebody [censored] about #24 it's money in
Bill and Brian France's pockets.

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How little you really know about NASCAR, Gordon is still one of the most
respected drivers in NASCAR, and he and Junior are quite good friends, that
friendship grew out of the respect that Gordon had for Juniors father, And
no Gordon doesn't live in a subdivision, and typically gets to and from
races in his own jet. NASCARS' soap opera is Tony Stewart

Dave,

You and I agree (not that I know a lot about NASCAR). _Perceieved_
rivalries and soap operas are convenient for NASCAR because they whip
up fan interest - look at how emotionally Bill responds. The soap
opera doesn't have to have correspond with the drivers and insiders'
true relationships - the soap is in how announcers, blowhard
sports columnists, and devoted fans create a opposition between
say, Junior and Gordon, even if the guys are actually friendly.
I said "_you_ bet he lives in a subdivision and drives a minivan"
to attribute the opinion to anti-Gordon minivan-despising fans, not
myself (anybody who makes that much money isn't gonna live in a
subdivision). Cycling doesn't have any correspondingly
emotional star-fan identifications, except maybe LANCE-loving
and LANCE-hating, and the more rabid tifosi in Italy and Belgium.

Okay, that's enough out of me about cars, I prefer bicycles.

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From: Benjamin Weiner [email hidden]

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Perceieved_
rivalries and soap operas are convenient for NASCAR because they whip
up fan interest - look at how emotionally Bill responds.

No I respond that way because Gordon went Hollywood and became a dickwad. I
haven't had much to do with auto racing stuff for a while but used to hang out
with and help a couple of local race teams. People like Rugerio, Richie Evans,
Greg Sachs and the Bodines used to race at Stafford Motor Speedway here so I
got to know them at least to talk to at the races and after. Gordon is a great
driver, but just isn't my kind of people.
Bill C

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(TritonRider) said:

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From: Benjamin Weiner [email hidden]

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Perceieved_
rivalries and soap operas are convenient for NASCAR because they whip
up fan interest - look at how emotionally Bill responds.

No I respond that way because Gordon went Hollywood and became a dickwad. I
haven't had much to do with auto racing stuff for a while but used to hang out
with and help a couple of local race teams. People like Rugerio, Richie Evans,
Greg Sachs and the Bodines used to race at Stafford Motor Speedway here so I
got to know them at least to talk to at the races and after. Gordon is a great
driver, but just isn't my kind of people.
Bill C

My recollection is that Richie Evans was the cleanest driver out there -
he pretty much never leaned on anyone. He had nine championships, I think.
Then along comes Jimmy Spencer, who seemed to hit every car on the track, a
habit that sorta carried over to Winston Cup.

--
tanx,
Howard

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From: Howard Kveck [email hidden]

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My recollection is that Richie Evans was the cleanest driver out there -
he pretty much never leaned on anyone. He had nine championships, I think.
Then along comes Jimmy Spencer, who seemed to hit every car on the track, a
habit that sorta carried over to Winston Cup.

--
tanx,
Howard

Yeah, Richie was an even better guy than his reputation says. Him and Bugsy
Stevens put on some real shows here.
Rugerio, and Sachs both washed out of Nascar mostly due to attitude I'd guess.
They were both really dirty drivers. The only person dirtier was my friend Luke
Scanlon he won a bunch of Riverside track championships but the back end of his
car was a wreck every week. He'd lock the brakes, just long enough to cave your
radiator then be gone if he got out front and you could challenge him.
Got to find time to get out to the races sometime. It used to be a cheap night
for the family, not anymore.
Bill C