US Postal and Vuelta

This Vuelta is very hard to predict, Beltran and Landis might make top 5
both or falter completely, who knows?

Azevedo was already too tired for the Olympics. (And his withdrawal netted
a medal for Portugal)

I agree , i think USPS are just making up the numbers and keeping sponsors happy.

Spaniards win this Tour and its brutal.I beleive Azevedo is taking time off on the Tour Of Britain which starts today and ends on Sunday (extremely short tour that it is , only seeing Wales and England)

usps short sheeted landis, probably because of jumping to phonak. he will
still be in the mix for gc.how soon we forget how he dominated the big
names in the tour mountains and pulled lance to victory. way back in 2003 he
pulled heras to victory in the vuelta. wait and watch, or read as the case
may be.
harles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

"Charles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

It looks like a lot of teams are sending strong squads to the Tour of
Britain instead. Johan has said that they are looking to win more stages
with van Heeswijk (Which is why Cruz was added at the last minute.) He said
the team would wait for the mountains to see if they had anyone (Beltran,
Landis) in position to make a GC run.

-T

Tom Schulenburg said:

"Charles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

It looks like a lot of teams are sending strong squads to the Tour of
Britain instead. Johan has said that they are looking to win more stages
with van Heeswijk (Which is why Cruz was added at the last minute.) He said
the team would wait for the mountains to see if they had anyone (Beltran,
Landis) in position to make a GC run.

-T

Don't forget, the Vuelta has 3 ITT's and a TTT. Floyd got fourth in the
final Tour TT.

If you were paying attention in July, you might have noticed that USPS had
their top riders use their form for the Tour de France.
Some people just cannot add 2+2

"Charles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta.

Landis did not dominate the Tour mountains.
Maybe on one stage... one stage out of 5.

"bobby carter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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usps short sheeted landis, probably because of jumping to phonak. he will
still be in the mix for gc.how soon we forget how he dominated the big
names in the tour mountains and pulled lance to victory. way back in 2003

he

Quoted message said:

pulled heras to victory in the vuelta. wait and watch, or read as the case
may be.
harles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

"Charles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

Excuse me, but [censored]!

Beltran is a strong possibility and if he's in shape he's already proven
that he's faster overall than Heras who has won twice.

While I agree that it is a bit strange that Azevedo isn't going to be
kicking everyone's ass in the Vuelta maybe he got offered more money
elsewhere? Say to ride in the T-mobile SF GP?

I agree that the team is probably going to be weak but not because the
riders are weak but because they haven't trained for the Vuelta.

Watch Max win at least one stage. Floyd will probably be a GC contender
though I think top 10 more likely.

Victor Hugo Peña could win a TT if he's in the right frame of mind and body.

in article [email hidden], Charles Hizark
at [email hidden] wrote on 8/31/04 10:14 PM:

Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

I disagree - this team will be stronger than the TdF team, because each
individual rider has an extremely rare opportunity to go on the attack
whenever they feel like it in the context of a major stage race. Will they
take a podium spot? Probably not, but nonetheless I am positive that we
will see a USPS like none other before it.

-Sonarrat.

Sonarrat <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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in article [email hidden], Charles Hizark
at [email hidden] wrote on 8/31/04 10:14 PM:

Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

I disagree - this team will be stronger than the TdF team, because each
individual rider has an extremely rare opportunity to go on the attack
whenever they feel like it in the context of a major stage race. Will they
take a podium spot? Probably not, but nonetheless I am positive that we
will see a USPS like none other before it.

-Sonarrat.

Sonobitchrat. GFYS. Your sarcasm is weak. Go ride a bicycle, if you
even know how. USPS just won the team time trial. By a lot.

crit PRO

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"Charles Hizark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I noticed today that US Postal is not sending a paticularly strong
lineup to the Vuelta. While USPS is sending Beltran it is not sending
Jose Azevido. Now these are all good riders. But I think US Postal has
already accepted the fact that it does not have a top contender if
Lance does not enter Vuelta. Another factor to consider is that
Beltran did not ride as strong a tour as last years.

Vuelta, USPS will have:
Manuel Beltran and
Floyd Landis in the front line along with
sprinter Max van Heeswijk
Michael Barry
Antonio Cruz,
Benoît Joachim,
Guennadi Mikhailov,
Victor Hugo Peña
Dave Zabriskie.

Excuse me, but [censored]!

Beltran is a strong possibility and if he's in shape he's already proven
that he's faster overall than Heras who has won twice.

While I agree that it is a bit strange that Azevedo isn't going to be
kicking everyone's ass in the Vuelta maybe he got offered more money
elsewhere? Say to ride in the T-mobile SF GP?

I agree that the team is probably going to be weak but not because the
riders are weak but because they haven't trained for the Vuelta.

Watch Max win at least one stage. Floyd will probably be a GC contender
though I think top 10 more likely.

Victor Hugo Peña could win a TT if he's in the right frame of mind and body.

Tom Kunich is the RBR Village Idiot.