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  1. All,

    I just swapped my rear wheel. The "new" wheel is on a Campy hub, the old wheel was on a Shimano hub.
    I also had to move the upper and lower derailleur limit screws and adjust the cable tension.

    Now, when I am in the bottom, bail-out gear, the unit up-shifts one cog when under load. This wheel
    has worked before. In fact, it's my usual wheel. I had the Shimano wheel on while the Campy wheel
    was being repaired.

    Can anyone give me any suggestions on this one?

    Thanks in advance,

    Larry
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  2. Larry Schuldt said:

    Now, when I am in the bottom, bail-out gear, the unit up-shifts one cog when under load. This
    wheel has worked before. In fact, it's my usual wheel. I had the Shimano wheel on while the Campy
    wheel was being repaired.

    Can anyone give me any suggestions on this one?

    See: sheldonbrown.comautoshift.html

    Sheldon "Grease" Brown +----------------------------------------+
    | When I am grown to man's estate | I shall be very proud and great, | And tell the other girls
    | and boys | Not to meddle with my toys. | -R. L. Stevenson |
    +----------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone
    617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

  3. Sheldon Brown said:


    See: sheldonbrown.comautoshift.html

    Sheldon "Grease" Brown +----------------------------------------+
    | When I am grown to man's estate | I shall be very proud and great, | And tell the other girls
    | and boys | Not to meddle with my toys. | -R. L. Stevenson |
    +----------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone
    617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

    Thanks, Sheldon. I knew that it had to do with frame flex, but... The other wheel didn't have this
    problem, so I suspect that it's not friction in the cable guide. I will verify this, though, and
    make sure that the cable is passing through the guide correctly. I'll also add a spot of grease for
    good measure!
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  4. Larry-<< Now, when I am in the bottom, bail-out gear, the unit up-shifts one cog when under load.
    This wheel has worked before. In fact, it's my usual wheel. I had the Shimano wheel on while the
    Campy wheel was being repaired.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    ERGO lever needs an overhaul(?) Upper limit screw and der adjust not 'high enough' or needs more
    tension(?)

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. (Qui si parla Campagnolo) said:

    Larry-<< Now, when I am in the bottom, bail-out gear, the unit up-shifts one cog when under load.
    This wheel has worked before. In fact, it's my usual wheel. I had the Shimano wheel on while the
    Campy wheel was being repaired.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    ERGO lever needs an overhaul(?)

    Don't I wish! Sorry, six-speed freewheel, downtube shifters.

    Quoted message said:

    Upper limit screw and der adjust not 'high enough' or needs more tension(?)

    Nope, though this might be influenced by the lower limit screw. Remember, I'm in the bottom gear, so
    upper limit screw should be irrelevant. I've tried more tension, but it didn't seem to make a
    difference, except to screw up the shifting elsewhere.

    Quoted message said:

    btw, Peter, thanks for sending the the cones. That's how I got this wheel back into service.

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

    Peter,

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  6. I missed the original part of this post, but I think I know what's going on here. "Autoshifting"
    when you've got an older system (downtube levers, etc.) is often due to cable friction problems.
    Assuming your levers aren't slipping and your upper/lower limits are adjusted properly. Check your
    shifter cables -- especially where they go around the bottom bracket, or through the cable housing
    loop at the back. Any dirt or grit or rust can cause this problem. Clean and lube. This has happened
    to me a few times, and cleaning/lubing cables usually cures it.

    "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Larry-<< Now, when I am in the bottom, bail-out gear, the unit up-shifts


    one

    Quoted message said:

    cog when under load. This wheel has worked before. In fact, it's my usual wheel. I had the Shimano
    wheel on while the Campy wheel was being repaired.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    ERGO lever needs an overhaul(?) Upper limit screw and der adjust not 'high enough' or needs more


    tension(?)

    Quoted message said:


    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. Not to be so picky, but I think grease is not a good idea. Dirt, dust, small pebbles, dead bugs,
    etc. can collect on it over time. You could try a dry lube like spray silicone, or maybe chain wax.

    r.b.

    Larry Schuldt <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I'll also add a spot of grease for good measure!

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