Upper limit on Calories in a day?

Sumner said:

If you consume more calories than your body uses -- just during one day
-- is there an upper limit on the amount of those calories that will be
turned into fat? Or will ALL the excess be converted to fat?

For example, if I need 2,000 calories/day just to maintain my weight,
and then one day I consume 4,000 calories, will all of the extra 2,000
turn into fat or does the body discard some of that extra? What if I
consumed 6,000 calories in one day? Would all of the extra 4,000 turn
into fat?

Eat 12 pints of Ben & Jerry's and report back. ;-)

7am: coconut almond fudge and chocolate therapy
8am: chocolate therapy
9am: gobfather
11am: mint chip
noon: vanilla almond
1pm: chocolate fudge brownie
3pm: strawberry cheesecake
4pm: caramel sutra
5pm: chocolate chip cookie dough
7pm: Appley Ever After
8pm: Half-Baked
9pm: Uncanny Cashew

You know, for science. ;-)

T said:

Sumner said:

If you consume more calories than your body uses -- just during one day
-- is there an upper limit on the amount of those calories that will be
turned into fat? Or will ALL the excess be converted to fat?

For example, if I need 2,000 calories/day just to maintain my weight,
and then one day I consume 4,000 calories, will all of the extra 2,000
turn into fat or does the body discard some of that extra? What if I
consumed 6,000 calories in one day? Would all of the extra 4,000 turn
into fat?

Eat 12 pints of Ben & Jerry's and report back. ;-)

7am: coconut almond fudge and chocolate therapy
8am: chocolate therapy
9am: gobfather
11am: mint chip
noon: vanilla almond
1pm: chocolate fudge brownie
3pm: strawberry cheesecake
4pm: caramel sutra
5pm: chocolate chip cookie dough
7pm: Appley Ever After
8pm: Half-Baked
9pm: Uncanny Cashew

You know, for science. ;-)

Do you think it would be possible to eat all that food in one day?

Matt said:

T said:

Sumner said:

If you consume more calories than your body uses -- just during one day
-- is there an upper limit on the amount of those calories that will be
turned into fat? Or will ALL the excess be converted to fat?

For example, if I need 2,000 calories/day just to maintain my weight,
and then one day I consume 4,000 calories, will all of the extra 2,000
turn into fat or does the body discard some of that extra? What if I
consumed 6,000 calories in one day? Would all of the extra 4,000 turn
into fat?

Eat 12 pints of Ben & Jerry's and report back. ;-)

7am: coconut almond fudge and chocolate therapy
8am: chocolate therapy
9am: gobfather
11am: mint chip
noon: vanilla almond
1pm: chocolate fudge brownie
3pm: strawberry cheesecake
4pm: caramel sutra
5pm: chocolate chip cookie dough
7pm: Appley Ever After
8pm: Half-Baked
9pm: Uncanny Cashew

You know, for science. ;-)

Do you think it would be possible to eat all that food in one day?

I picked premium ice cream because it's really, really calorically dense.
Peanut butter might be a better choice, though; about 10K Calories in 60 ounces.

7 (peanut butter) or 24 (ice cream) cups of food in 15 hours? Sure. I probably
eat about 12 cups every day. Fruit, salad, veggies, whole grains, mostly, of
course; nowhere near the caloric densities suggested for the purpose of
experimentation.

Possible to eat 4 or 5,000 calories in a day? Absolutely.

I am trying to figure out if there is any difference between eating
2,000 calories over maintenance in one day, versus eating 400 calories
over maintenance over 5 days.

Sumner said:

If you consume more calories than your body uses -- just during one day
-- is there an upper limit on the amount of those calories that will be
turned into fat? Or will ALL the excess be converted to fat?

For example, if I need 2,000 calories/day just to maintain my weight,
and then one day I consume 4,000 calories, will all of the extra 2,000
turn into fat or does the body discard some of that extra? What if I
consumed 6,000 calories in one day? Would all of the extra 4,000 turn
into fat?

Without going too far with this, when new substances are assimilated by
the body, they have to become something. What they become depends on
how much there is of them, and your level of activity. BTW, in this
context, a calorie is an expression of heat/energy producing value in
food, it's not actually, literally, something you eat. Answering your
question specifically, if you need 3000 calories a day for weight
maintenance, but you consume 6000 calories on a given day, that 3000
calorie excess will be stored in the body as fat, and become
approximately one additional pound of body weight. Of course if you
throw up the whole half gallon of Ben & Jerry's...

Mrs. Tyler, my 8th grade general science teacher, would be proud of me.
I might send her a copy of this.

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Neal Fabian Jul 5, 3:34 pm wrote this
::::Of course if you
::::throw up the whole half gallon of Ben & Jerry's...
::::

this made me think of something.
for bulemics (sp?) what the hell is going on?

surely when the expell food, some of it has been used for calories and
some of it hasn't. does this mean someone can throw up and effectively
be doing nothing beneficial (in context)? say someone, or a celebrity
actress, ate an entire 6000 cal cake. They waited 2 hours, and then
threw up everything they could. Could they idealy cause their
digestive system to only absorb (or use) 3000 or something high like
that calories, and then the expengunged goo would represent the
remaining 3000 cal's? What about people who dry heave? Doesn't this
also slow the digestive system. And what if they worked out all day
long with really intensive lifting. Could this somehow cause the
muscles to still become weaker. I have a feeling all of this must be
yes, but then... what good would throwing up your food do? And surely
the pure act of vomiting must be an intensive workout for your internal
system. Think of how much energy the body must use to (get rid of)
food in the stohmach. Ok, enjoy your breakfast now 🙂

Adam.

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Quoted message said:

If you consume more calories than your body uses -- just during one
day
-- is there an upper limit on the amount of those calories that will
be
turned into fat? Or will ALL the excess be converted to fat?

For example, if I need 2,000 calories/day just to maintain my weight,
and then one day I consume 4,000 calories, will all of the extra 2,000
turn into fat or does the body discard some of that extra? What if I
consumed 6,000 calories in one day? Would all of the extra 4,000 turn
into fat?

You will undoubtedly excrete most of the extra calories. Gaining weight
requires consistent overeating.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

That's the answer I was hoping for, but Neal's answer contradicts it
completely... Anyone know where some definitive information is on the
subject? I'd like to find out more about it (specifically what amounts
of the extra might be excreted)...

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sumner said:

That's the answer I was hoping for, but Neal's answer contradicts it
completely...

"Neal Fabian" is an idiot. (Now watch it come back quoting some other
idiot lying troll in an attempt to disparage me.)

Quoted message said:

Anyone know where some definitive information is on the
subject? I'd like to find out more about it (specifically what amounts
of the extra might be excreted)...

There's nothing definitive; it depends ($1 to Lyle) on exactly what
you've been eating before, your metabolism, and lots of other unknown
factors.

Seth
--
"There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink
Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sumner said:

That's the answer I was hoping for, but Neal's answer contradicts it
completely...

Then go look at his site and decide if you think he's an authority on
the topic.

Quoted message said:

Anyone know where some definitive information is on the
subject?

Sure, try a good bio chem course and plenty of follow up at the med
libraries. It's not rocket science actually: short term over eating is
easily compensated by the body via various pathways and mechanisms and
long term over eating can't be totally compensated for and thus, you get
fat.

Quoted message said:

I'd like to find out more about it (specifically what amounts
of the extra might be excreted)...

Out your butt, converted to heat, stored as glycogen, and so on.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

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Quoted message said:

That's the answer I was hoping for, but Neal's answer contradicts it
completely... Anyone know where some definitive information is on the
subject? I'd like to find out more about it (specifically what amounts
of the extra might be excreted)...

There is no science that will be useful to you because it all depends on
your own metabolism, schedule, etc.

If you're trying to find this out, you'll weigh less if you pig out once
in a while than if you overeat just a little but do it every day.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Quoted message said:

Neal Fabian Jul 5, 3:34 pm wrote this
::::Of course if you
::::throw up the whole half gallon of Ben & Jerry's...
::::

this made me think of something.
for bulemics (sp?) what the hell is going on?

surely when the expell food, some of it has been used for calories and
some of it hasn't. does this mean someone can throw up and effectively
be doing nothing beneficial (in context)? say someone, or a celebrity
actress, ate an entire 6000 cal cake. They waited 2 hours, and then
threw up everything they could. Could they idealy cause their
digestive system to only absorb (or use) 3000 or something high like
that calories, and then the expengunged goo would represent the
remaining 3000 cal's?

Something like that, yes. You might read my response to Sumner.

Quoted message said:

What about people who dry heave?

Dry heaves don't count.

Quoted message said:

Doesn't this
also slow the digestive system. And what if they worked out all day
long with really intensive lifting. Could this somehow cause the
muscles to still become weaker.

Is this for your personal information?

Quoted message said:

I have a feeling all of this must be
yes, but then... what good would throwing up your food do?

It would get rid of the food.

Quoted message said:

And surely
the pure act of vomiting must be an intensive workout for your internal
system. Think of how much energy the body must use to (get rid of)
food in the stohmach.

well, not really all that much, except maybe on Thanksgiving.

Quoted message said:

Ok, enjoy your breakfast now 🙂

Actually, I just had lunch. I can already feel it coming up.

Quoted message said:

Adam.

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Neal Fabian said:

simply an embittered, silly, fat old man

Ask Mr. Fabian how old he is.

Beta said:

Neal Fabian said:

simply an embittered, silly, fat old man

Ask Mr. Fabian how old he is.

Over 21, but still always carded [smile]. Beta on the other hand,
judging by
how he writes, is either 90 or 4.

Neal Fabian
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training advice and much more -- come by and meet me
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up on my Website, in NEW STUFF, on the cover page. Check it out.
Also, I have a new B&W addition to my
gallery, by a terrific photographer who is new to physique art. It's
in ABSOLUTELY...PART II. My training program, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT DEVELOPING YOUR BODY, is up on the site, and
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