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A . B . Chung F · 2004-07-05T11:54:45+00:00

--------------------------------- | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | | Version 4.47, July, 2004 | --------------------------------- Introduction ------------ New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party resources at http://tinyurl.com/26rfr. This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that permits authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be independently confirmed via Google (http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5EF42A77). The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided. Summary ------- Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical questions on s.m.c.(http://makeashorterlink.com/?V6AB24B48 and http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y20826ED7) and continues to freely help people to this day (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3D922048). He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy. The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular: o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2C722E38). o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion (http://tinyurl.com/2p7ud). o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q1B752E38). o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A5B9214A7). o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q5E725E38). o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being maliciously libeled and defamed (http://tinyurl.com/ibvn). o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?W3A762E38). The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at http://tinyurl.com/2ndof. People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several years (http://makeashorterlink.com/?B60B12048). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge, training, and experience (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3DA25048). This is archived many times over in Google. List of Questions Answered -------------------------- 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD? 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter? 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature. 6. But I'm a Christian Too! 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! 14. What is the Two Pound Diet? 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? 16. Who is Mu? 17. What is Mu's role? 18. Who is Steve? 19. What is Steve's role? 20. Who is Bob? 21. What is Bob's role? 22. Who is Stephen? 23. What is Stephen's role? 24. Is this spam? 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? 28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD? ------------------------------------- Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board- certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to http://tinyurl.com/255v2, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications. 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? --------------------------------- The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions. The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems." (http://tinyurl.com/3fv8k) 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter? ------------------------------------------------------- They are if these discussions represent "communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider (http://tinyurl.com/2ndof), who has demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus. 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? ------------------------------------------------------------ - Some people are fiercely anti-christian. 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian. 6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry? ------------------------------------------- No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom. 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? -------------------------------------------------- Anti-christians are unable to do that. 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? ---------------------------------------------------------- God is wonderful. 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- God makes time for those whom He blesses. 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? -------------------------------------------------- Do not concern yourself with the free will of others. 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? ------------------------------------------------------------ -- God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will. 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? ---------------------------------------------- This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock. 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! ------------------------------- Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?" 14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach? ---------------------------------------------- See: http://tinyurl.com/2p7ud 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? --------------------------------------------------- Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes. 16. Who is Mu? -------------- A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57). 17. What is Mu's role? ---------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 18. Who is Steve? ----------------- An anti-christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37). He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S10252097). 19. What is Steve's role? ------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 20. Who is Bob? --------------- A food worshipper (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T48662E57) who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach (http://makeashorterlink.com/?O23E12478) that he is driven to libeling and defaming the author (http://tinyurl.com/ibvn) at considerable risk to his own economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S38712E38) and can be seen writing to himself about it (http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2C134097). Even his friends appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self- destructive USENET posting behavior (http://makeashorterlink.com/?I43721168). Meanwhile, he continues to post about his obsessions with Dr. Chung on s.m.c. though no one pays him any attention (http://makeashorterlink.com/?R25212998) so it's back to food (http://makeashorterlink.com/?D24D523B8). 21. What is Bob's role? ----------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 22. Who is Stephen? ------------------- A hateful (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q65762E38) *retired* rectal surgeon (http://makeashorterlink.com/?M15151A28) who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley" (http://makeashorterlink.com/?J1B623B67). He seems to be so taken with Du. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25611B67) by his own admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history of reporting those who would willfully trespass against others (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V28141097). By his own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have warned him about his stalking activities (http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2F132348) so he has gone into hiding (http://makeashorterlink.com/?K63A21948). A few words to the wise can be found at http://tinyurl.com/23qqk on this topic. 23. What is Stephen's role? --------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 24. Is this spam? ----------------- No, this is a FAQ. 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? ---------------------------------- There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be anonymous. 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------- No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others. 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different Christian individuals. Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].

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---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 4.47, July, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often
puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew
B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful
answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by
detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at tinyurl.com26rfr.
This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that
permits authentication. The veracity of both the
posting email address and domain name can be
independently confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary
is provided.
Summary
-------
Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is
board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds
truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues to
freely help people to this day
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients
as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he
were, there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it
a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being
maliciously libeled and defamed (tinyurl.comibvn).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in
Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian
behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it.
Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
training, and experience
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick
and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(tinyurl.com3fv8k)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an interest
in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
------------------------------------------------------------
-
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his
signature, isn't it?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
------------------------------------------------------------
--
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can
be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: tinyurl.com2p7ud
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition
that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he is driven
to libeling and defaming the author
(tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this
FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can be seen
writing to himself about it
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
destructive USENET posting behavior
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Meanwhile, he
continues to post about his obsessions with Dr. Chung on
s.m.c. though no one pays him any attention
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so it's back to
food (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) *retired*
rectal surgeon (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who
believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis
Presley" (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems
to be so taken with
Du. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history
of reporting those who would willfully trespass against
others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his
own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
warned him about his stalking activities
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has gone
into hiding (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A
few words to the wise can be found at
tinyurl.com23qqk on this topic.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be
anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------
----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different
Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
advisement via [email hidden].

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5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #2

And the rest of us are puzzled (and troubled) by the Chung
FAQ routinely posted by Dr. Chung himself.
Even though there has been no "vitriol" lately (was there
ever?) up pops this utterly silly bit of self-propaganda.
Dr. Chung, you are one strange fellow.
E.
A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 4.47, July, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at tinyurl.com26rfr.
This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that
permits authentication. The veracity of both the
posting email address and domain name can be
independently confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary
is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is
board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
responds truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues
to freely help people to this day
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients
as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he
were, there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it
a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
being maliciously libeled and defamed
(tinyurl.comibvn).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
in Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
training, and experience
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(tinyurl.com3fv8k)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an
interest in the cardiovascular field when He
"resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
-----------------------------------------------------------
--
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
-------------------------------------------------------
---------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
-------------------------------------------------------
---------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
-----------------------------------------------------
---------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can
be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: tinyurl.com2p7ud
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks
and strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD
approach (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he
is driven to libeling and defaming the author
(tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this
FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can be
seen writing to himself about it
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
destructive USENET posting behavior
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Meanwhile, he
continues to post about his obsessions with Dr. Chung on
s.m.c. though no one pays him any attention
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so it's back to
food (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
*retired* rectal surgeon
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
"Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems to be so
taken with
Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history
of reporting those who would willfully trespass against
others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his
own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
warned him about his stalking activities
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has gone
into hiding (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A
few words to the wise can be found at
tinyurl.com23qqk on this topic.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------
----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------
------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different
Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
advisement via [email hidden].

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Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #3

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 4.47, July, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at
tinyurl.com26rfr. This FAQ has been posted in
the past in a manner that permits authentication. The
veracity of both the posting email address and domain
name can be independently confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
responds truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues
to freely help people to this day
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
his private cardiology practice, where he sees
patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If that
was all he were, there would probably be no
controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
it a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
being maliciously libeled and defamed
(tinyurl.comibvn).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
in Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
has graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
training, and experience
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(tinyurl.com3fv8k)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an
interest in the cardiovascular field when He
"resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
-----------------------------------------------------
--------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
--------------------------------------------------------
--------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
--------------------------------------------------------
--------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
------------------------------------------------------
--------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
can be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: tinyurl.com2p7ud
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and
strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the
untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD
approach (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he
is driven to libeling and defaming the author
(tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with
this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can
be seen writing to himself about it
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
destructive USENET posting behavior
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Meanwhile, he
continues to post about his obsessions with Dr. Chung on
s.m.c. though no one pays him any attention
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so it's back to
food (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
*retired* rectal surgeon
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
"Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems to be
so taken with
Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully
trespass against others
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his own
admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
warned him about his stalking activities
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has
gone into hiding
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words
to the wise can be found at tinyurl.com23qqk
on this topic.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
----------------------------------------------------------
-----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
----------------------------------------------------------
-------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
different Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
under advisement via [email hidden].
All praises belong to my Lord and Savior :-)
May He bless you and yours at TruthRus.org today and
everyday in Christ's name.
Keep on keeping on (your timing is impeccable:-)
May the folks muttering in the dark corners of SMC
(especially Bob) someday accept Christ as their personal
Lord and Savior so that they too will have eternal life and
the boundless riches of His everlasting kingdom.
They remain in my prayers, in Christ's name.
He is the Truth, the Way, and the Life.
This *is* simple.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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Tiger Lily
Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #4

<listener@> wrote in message ...
Quoted message said:
And the rest of us are puzzled (and troubled) by the Chung
FAQ routinely posted by Dr. Chung himself.
Even though there has been no "vitriol" lately (was there
ever?) up pops this utterly silly bit of self-propaganda.
Dr. Chung, you are one strange fellow.
L.
truth is simple......... i do believe you hit the truth here
:-)

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George
Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #5

Quoted message said:
And the rest of us are puzzled (and troubled) by the Chung
FAQ routinely posted by Dr. Chung himself.
Even though there has been no "vitriol" lately (was there
ever?) up pops this utterly silly bit of self-propaganda.
Dr. Chung, you are one strange fellow.

Calling this nutcase who pretends to be a practicing
physican strange is being too polite.

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William Wagner
Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>,
George said:
Quoted message said:
And the rest of us are puzzled (and troubled) by the
Chung FAQ routinely posted by Dr. Chung himself.
Even though there has been no "vitriol" lately (was there
ever?) up pops this utterly silly bit of self-propaganda.
Dr. Chung, you are one strange fellow.

Calling this nutcase who pretends to be a practicing
physican strange is being too polite.
Being strange is or may not be a bad thing. I've read many
of Andrew's post's and he seem's to offer help with a
technical vocabulary that is medical in nature and perhaps
of use to some folk's. I have found that he encourages
contact with doctor's which is not strange to me 😉).
The Chung FAQ may bit a bit much and perhaps so is his info
regarding Jesus Christ. But remember President Bush is
coming from a similar place . At least Chung tries to help
and I dare say does.
Nutcase? Folk's in Glass Houses ring a bell George ?
PS Thanks George for being a contrary. A Good Thing!
Bill
--
Zone 5 S Jersey USA Shade If you have lots of risk factors
you really have none. Bill

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R5
Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:54 UTC #7

George said:
Calling this nutcase who pretends to be a practicing
physican strange is being too polite.
Who is pretending? The GA board of medical examiners appears
to be satisfied that Chung is a bona fide physician:
gaphysicianprofile.orgprofile.ShowProfileActio
n.action?lic_nbr=040347

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Dr. Andrew B. C
Archived post

5 July 2004, 11:55 UTC #8

r5 said:

George said:
Calling this nutcase who pretends to be a practicing
physican strange is being too polite.
Who is pretending? The GA board of medical examiners
appears to be satisfied that Chung is a bona fide
physician:
gaphysicianprofile.orgprofile.ShowProfileAct
ion.action?lic_nbr=040347
As does the AMA and the NBME and my patients...
...truth is simple :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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