Update on Laureen

"marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she

said

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that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking
around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with

the

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help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that
Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the

hospital

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Thursday morning.

Incidentally, I had a nice chat with Marlene and learned that she herself
had the GB surgery 18 months ago and has lost 115 pounds.

I'm counting my blessings, as should we all, that I'm one of the ones who
finds it relatively easy to lose weight on my low-carb diet. It was
unfortunately not so for Laureen, and she chose the gastric bypass as a

last

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resort. She felt that she was dying from her obesity and views this

measure

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as saving her life.

I for one respect her decision to undergo this surgery and wish her all

the

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very best. I pray that she quickly regains her health and realizes all

the

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benefits of her surgery with minimal complications.
--
Peter
270/219/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Thanks Peter I'm very glad to know she is doing well and I also hope all the
best or her.

Angie

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marengo <[email hidden]> typed:

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I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and

thanks for the update.

In article <yQYLd.54472$jn.3519@lakeread06>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she said
that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking
around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with the
help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that
Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the hospital
Thursday morning.

That's GREAT news! I've been thinking about her. Thanks, Peter!

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"marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she

said

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that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery.

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That's great. I was wondering how she was doing.

--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 166 / 140 lb
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Hi,

marengo said:

I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and
she said that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery.

SNIP

Thank you Peter. I thought I still had Laureen's cell number but now
of course I can't find it!

Take care,
Carmen

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I wonder how many will follow her lead.

Cubit
311/195/165 since: 12/2003 url: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Profile1.htm
month-start: 195 monthly-goal: 4 woe: LC

"marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she

said

Quoted message said:

that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery.

Thanks!! I hope she does well.

--
bjgeiger
"marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she
said
that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking
around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with
the
help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that
Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the
hospital
Thursday morning.

Incidentally, I had a nice chat with Marlene and learned that she herself
had the GB surgery 18 months ago and has lost 115 pounds.

I'm counting my blessings, as should we all, that I'm one of the ones who
finds it relatively easy to lose weight on my low-carb diet. It was
unfortunately not so for Laureen, and she chose the gastric bypass as a
last
resort. She felt that she was dying from her obesity and views this
measure
as saving her life.

I for one respect her decision to undergo this surgery and wish her all
the
very best. I pray that she quickly regains her health and realizes all
the
benefits of her surgery with minimal complications.
--
Peter
270/219/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Quoted message said:

I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she
said
that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking
around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with
the
help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said that
Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the
hospital
Thursday morning.

Awesome news, Peter. When you speak with her again, please give her my
best.

Carol Ann
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=morgankelley&p=3111 <---- Pictures of
Morgan

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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those who will benefit hopefully!

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"Carol Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just spoke with Laureen's sister-in-law Marlene on the phone, and she
said
that Laureen is doing very well after her surgery. She's been up walking
around twice today (tat's unreal to me, sos oon after surgery!) and with
the
help of some pain medication her discomfort is minimal. Marlene said
that
Laureen is upbeat and positive and expects to be released from the
hospital
Thursday morning.

Awesome news, Peter. When you speak with her again, please give her my
best.

Carol Ann
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=morgankelley&p=3111 <---- Pictures of
Morgan

mine too.
Lori

Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for
most.

Laureen has declared failure. While she reports her doctor claims a 1 in
400 mortality rate, elsewhere the rate is quoted as 1 in 50 for the first 30
days. If you add the percentage that have complications, WLS is a
frightening practice.

In the book "Keeping It Off" the authors claim that the 5% who not only lose
weight, but keep it off are distinguished by their taking personal control
of their diet. The qualities that win: "commitment; sense of purpose; the
ability to organize and control; self-trust"

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"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: I wonder how many will follow her lead.
:

those who will benefit hopefully!

Hi Igor,

Yes. The biological drive that leads to regain must have the power to alter
the mind in the same way hunger can. In this context willpower becomes
meaningless.

I'm hoping that the drive for failure is triggered by some aspect of the
modern way of eating. If so, diligent use of the right eating techniques
may avert the drive to regain. I've put my money on LCHF. However, Paleo
looks like the logical strategy to avoid such a key mystery element of
modern eating. When I reach goal, I plan to adjust my eating toward Paleo.

It is possible that there is a drive to eat in the manner that is learned as
a child. Diligence and willpower might stand a chance against such a drive.
So many faithful low carbers return to grain based carbs. There must be a
reason.

"Ignoramus26468" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for
most.

Laureen has declared failure. While she reports her doctor claims a 1

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

400 mortality rate, elsewhere the rate is quoted as 1 in 50 for the

first 30

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

days. If you add the percentage that have complications, WLS is a
frightening practice.

In the book "Keeping It Off" the authors claim that the 5% who not only

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight, but keep it off are distinguished by their taking personal

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of their diet. The qualities that win: "commitment; sense of purpose;

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ability to organize and control; self-trust"

I am not sure how many people with the ability to organize, plenty of
self trust, etc, set out to lose weight, and then somehow experience
priority shift, denial etc, and pile the pounds back on.

These winning qualities are necessary, but are they sufficient?

Take you as an example. You showed that you have plenty of
determination etc. You also mentioned that your previous weight loss
attempts -- non-LC -- were failures. They did not work because of some
powerful biological reasons. Something made you give up.

Those same successful dieters who you mentioned, who did keep weight
off, report several unsuccessful attempts before. That also ought to
tell us that there is something beyond determination and willpower.

Willpower is only good if you want to use it. If, one day, you wake up
and decide that dieting is unimportant, no willpower will help as it
is not even being applied.

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223/172.8/180

Hi Igor,

Yes. The biological drive that leads to regain must have the power to alter
the mind in the same way hunger can. In this context willpower becomes
meaningless.

I'm hoping that the drive for failure is triggered by some aspect of the
modern way of eating. If so, diligent use of the right eating techniques
may avert the drive to regain. I've put my money on LCHF. However, Paleo
looks like the logical strategy to avoid such a key mystery element of
modern eating. When I reach goal, I plan to adjust my eating toward Paleo.

It is possible that there is a drive to eat in the manner that is learned as
a child. Diligence and willpower might stand a chance against such a drive.
So many faithful low carbers return to grain based carbs. There must be a
reason.

"Ignoramus26468" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

Following a lead to give up on conventional means is not beneficial for
most.

Laureen has declared failure. While she reports her doctor claims a 1

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

400 mortality rate, elsewhere the rate is quoted as 1 in 50 for the

first 30

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

days. If you add the percentage that have complications, WLS is a
frightening practice.

In the book "Keeping It Off" the authors claim that the 5% who not only

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight, but keep it off are distinguished by their taking personal

control

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of their diet. The qualities that win: "commitment; sense of purpose;

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ability to organize and control; self-trust"

I am not sure how many people with the ability to organize, plenty of
self trust, etc, set out to lose weight, and then somehow experience
priority shift, denial etc, and pile the pounds back on.

These winning qualities are necessary, but are they sufficient?

Take you as an example. You showed that you have plenty of
determination etc. You also mentioned that your previous weight loss
attempts -- non-LC -- were failures. They did not work because of some
powerful biological reasons. Something made you give up.

Those same successful dieters who you mentioned, who did keep weight
off, report several unsuccessful attempts before. That also ought to
tell us that there is something beyond determination and willpower.

Willpower is only good if you want to use it. If, one day, you wake up
and decide that dieting is unimportant, no willpower will help as it
is not even being applied.

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223/172.8/180