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  1. Hello J,Jill, all, I have not been visiting the group at all
    after my RAI. I was given 150mci and I isolated myself for
    about 10 days. Nausea, depression -the works.

    Now I am on 137mcg of thyroxine and seem to be feeling
    better.

    I dont know if anyone remembers but I had a weird problem
    with sleep, which is what brought me to the thyroid forum in
    Jan 2003. Palpitations, jerks etc., which hit me on sleep
    onset and when I woke up in the morning. It would usually be
    accompanied by slight pain in the cancer area.

    The strangest thing is -those symptoms have come down
    CONSIDERABLY since my RAI. I had an excacerbation in the
    beginning of may -about a month after my RAI, but since then
    not much of a problem. That ofcourse is relative- I am still
    waking up with palpitations, funny tickle in the heart,
    startling awake, sensitive to noises etc., BUT its som much
    lesser than before. I am thrilled! Also a little scared that
    it could have been because of the cancer- and why is it
    happening ? if they missed it -what else can it do to me
    etc., But I know since the best and only treatment is RAI-
    there is nothing else to be done.

    But I am tired a lot. That is bad, because my mental
    energy is much higher than my physical energy. So I feel I
    must do more than I CAN. My memory is a little shot- that
    I hear is NOT a side effect of RAI, BUT I did not have to
    go hypo for my radioactive iodine, so I have no idea why I
    have bad memory.

    They are telling me I have to go back for my DFSP surgery
    and I am loathe to do it. I have had enough of this and want
    my life back, I'll take it as it is... Just wanted to say
    hello and send hugs out to all that need it. Anita

  2. anita said:

    Hello J,Jill, all, I have not been visiting the group at
    all after my RAI. I was given 150mci and I isolated myself
    for about 10 days. Nausea, depression -the works.

    Now I am on 137mcg of thyroxine and seem to be
    feeling better.

    I dont know if anyone remembers but I had a weird problem
    with sleep, which is what brought me to the thyroid forum
    in Jan 2003. Palpitations, jerks etc., which hit me on
    sleep onset and when I woke up in the morning. It would
    usually be accompanied by slight pain in the cancer area.

    The strangest thing is -those symptoms have come down
    CONSIDERABLY since my RAI. I had an excacerbation in the
    beginning of may -about a month after my RAI, but since
    then not much of a problem. That ofcourse is relative- I
    am still waking up with palpitations, funny tickle in the
    heart, startling awake, sensitive to noises etc., BUT its
    som much lesser than before. I am thrilled! Also a little
    scared that it could have been because of the cancer- and
    why is it happening ? if they missed it -what else can it
    do to me etc., But I know since the best and only
    treatment is RAI- there is nothing else to be done.

    But I am tired a lot. That is bad, because my mental
    energy is much higher than my physical energy. So I feel I
    must do more than I CAN. My memory is a little shot- that
    I hear is NOT a side effect of RAI, BUT I did not have to
    go hypo for my radioactive iodine, so I have no idea why I
    have bad memory.

    They are telling me I have to go back for my DFSP surgery
    and I am loathe to do it. I have had enough of this and
    want my life back, I'll take it as it is... Just wanted to
    say hello and send hugs out to all that need it. Anita

    Hi Anita, I'm pleased to hear from you. I was wondering what
    was going on and why we hadn't heard. A lot of what you may
    be experiencing may be stress. Other factors also. Come over
    to alt.support.cancer and we'll talk. I have a website for
    you about palpitations. Also someone just posted that they
    had DFSP (abdomen I think) and had surgery. So please come
    over to the other newsgroup. Hugs J

  3. [email hidden] (anita) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello J,Jill, all, I have not been visiting the group at
    all after my RAI. I was given 150mci and I isolated myself
    for about 10 days. Nausea, depression -the works.

    Now I am on 137mcg of thyroxine and seem to be
    feeling better.

    I dont know if anyone remembers but I had a weird problem
    with sleep, which is what brought me to the thyroid forum
    in Jan 2003. Palpitations, jerks etc., which hit me on
    sleep onset and when I woke up in the morning. It would
    usually be accompanied by slight pain in the cancer area.

    The strangest thing is -those symptoms have come down
    CONSIDERABLY since my RAI. I had an excacerbation in the
    beginning of may -about a month after my RAI, but since
    then not much of a problem. That ofcourse is relative- I
    am still waking up with palpitations, funny tickle in the
    heart, startling awake, sensitive to noises etc., BUT its
    som much lesser than before. I am thrilled! Also a little
    scared that it could have been because of the cancer- and
    why is it happening ? if they missed it -what else can it
    do to me etc., But I know since the best and only
    treatment is RAI- there is nothing else to be done.

    But I am tired a lot. That is bad, because my mental
    energy is much higher than my physical energy. So I feel I
    must do more than I CAN. My memory is a little shot- that
    I hear is NOT a side effect of RAI, BUT I did not have to
    go hypo for my radioactive iodine, so I have no idea why I
    have bad memory.

    They are telling me I have to go back for my DFSP surgery
    and I am loathe to do it. I have had enough of this and
    want my life back, I'll take it as it is... Just wanted to
    say hello and send hugs out to all that need it. Anita

    Anita,

    Good to hear from you. I agree w/ J, I think a lot of it
    is stress.

    They still don't know if they got all my cancer.

    So I know some of what you are going through.

    And the surgery stuff gets old. I've been open more times,
    than a pickle jar.

    Stay in touch. "You hang in there sweetie."

    Big Jill Hugs.

  4. anita said:

    Hello J,Jill, all, I have not been visiting the group at
    all after my RAI. I was given 150mci and I isolated myself
    for about 10 days. Nausea, depression -the works.

    Now I am on 137mcg of thyroxine and seem to be
    feeling better.

    I dont know if anyone remembers but I had a weird problem
    with sleep, which is what brought me to the thyroid forum
    in Jan 2003. Palpitations, jerks etc., which hit me on
    sleep onset and when I woke up in the morning. It would
    usually be accompanied by slight pain in the cancer area.

    The strangest thing is -those symptoms have come down
    CONSIDERABLY since my RAI. I had an excacerbation in the
    beginning of may -about a month after my RAI, but since
    then not much of a problem. That ofcourse is relative- I
    am still waking up with palpitations, funny tickle in the
    heart, startling awake, sensitive to noises etc., BUT its
    som much lesser than before. I am thrilled! Also a little
    scared that it could have been because of the cancer- and
    why is it happening ? if they missed it -what else can it
    do to me etc., But I know since the best and only
    treatment is RAI- there is nothing else to be done.

    But I am tired a lot. That is bad, because my mental
    energy is much higher than my physical energy. So I feel I
    must do more than I CAN. My memory is a little shot- that
    I hear is NOT a side effect of RAI, BUT I did not have to
    go hypo for my radioactive iodine, so I have no idea why I
    have bad memory.

    They are telling me I have to go back for my DFSP surgery
    and I am loathe to do it. I have had enough of this and
    want my life back, I'll take it as it is... Just wanted to
    say hello and send hugs out to all that need it. Anita

    Hello Anita, Since you're a "no-show" on the other
    newsgroup, there's a few things I wanted to add. I still
    find it hard to believe that you don't have sleep apnea.
    When you were tested, were you sleeping on your side or your
    back? Did they attach wires to your legs to monitor for
    twitching and other forms of "restless leg"? If so, that
    should be mentioned on your sleep study results. If they
    didn't check you for that, IMO that's not a full sleep study
    and should be redone. Stress and lack of and/or poor sleep
    can sure cause memory problems.

    I mentioned stress earlier but there's other possible causes
    of some of your symptoms. I don't know what palpitations are
    (feel like) but I may have told you I was getting a tingling
    feeling late in the day for months last winter. It's gone
    away now and perhaps it's because my thyroid is more in
    range since the recent medication dose change. So perhaps
    some of it is your thyroid, it's mentioned here amongst
    others allsands.comheartpalpitatio
    wod_gn.htm

    Sleep starts are mentioned here evms.edudisorders
    parasomnias.html They seem to think that they're harmless,
    but if you're connecting them to the cancer, they're not
    harmless. They could be contributing to your lack of
    physical energy. Actually if you're brain is too filled with
    information (brain overload) and late in the day, that too
    can cause sleep quality problems. So I hope you can "turn
    off " your brain early in the evening and see if some of
    these problems resolve. I'm not denying you've had a tough
    time for quite a while now and your system is still
    adjusting. If some of these don't adjust, you may want to
    have a general practitioner do a checkup and follow your
    heart issues, and maybe do some bloodwork to make sure
    you're not deficient in anything, like B12 for instance. If
    the doctors agree, perhaps a mild sleep medication would
    help. Did I mention there's also an ultrasound (I think)
    that can be done of the blood vessels up the side of the
    neck. I think that checks that there's good blood flow on
    each side of the neck to the brain. (Sorry, I forget the
    name of the test - maybe Carotid doppler ultrasound ?).

    Also at least twice since my thyroid was dx'd, I distinctly
    remember pointing out that I had pain in my thyroid area. I
    don't know what caused it nor do I know what made it go away
    (nobody could explain it). It just was. but when I look up
    "thyroid" and "pain", Google gives me websites about
    "thyroiditis" which is exactly what I had. Which makes me
    wonder if a mild anti-inflammatory might help you, if
    permitted at this time.

    I'd like to see you feeling much better and ready to face
    the DFSP surgery as soon as possible. I hear ya that you
    want your life back, Anita. You've had a rough time for
    several years now, but we can't go back and change what's
    happened and seems to me you'd want to get on with the
    surgery and then leave all this behind and get on with
    healing and the rest of your life.

    It's up to you, of course. I'll support you whatever your
    decision. I'm here for you and reading, whenever I can be.
    Keep in touch as you can. Hugs J

  5. J <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    anita said:

    Hello J,Jill, all, I have not been visiting the group at
    all after my RAI. I was given 150mci and I isolated
    myself for about 10 days. Nausea, depression -the works.

    Now I am on 137mcg of thyroxine and seem to be feeling
    better.

    I dont know if anyone remembers but I had a weird
    problem with sleep, which is what brought me to the
    thyroid forum in Jan 2003. Palpitations, jerks etc.,
    which hit me on sleep onset and when I woke up in the
    morning. It would usually be accompanied by slight pain
    in the cancer area.

    The strangest thing is -those symptoms have come down
    CONSIDERABLY since my RAI. I had an excacerbation in the
    beginning of may -about a month after my RAI, but since
    then not much of a problem. That ofcourse is relative- I
    am still waking up with palpitations, funny tickle in
    the heart, startling awake, sensitive to noises etc.,
    BUT its som much lesser than before. I am thrilled! Also
    a little scared that it could have been because of the
    cancer- and why is it happening ? if they missed it -
    what else can it do to me etc., But I know since the
    best and only treatment is RAI- there is nothing else to
    be done.

    But I am tired a lot. That is bad, because my mental
    energy is much higher than my physical energy. So I feel
    I must do more than I CAN. My memory is a little shot-
    that I hear is NOT a side effect of RAI, BUT I did not
    have to go hypo for my radioactive iodine, so I have no
    idea why I have bad memory.

    They are telling me I have to go back for my DFSP
    surgery and I am loathe to do it. I have had enough of
    this and want my life back, I'll take it as it is...
    Just wanted to say hello and send hugs out to all that
    need it. Anita

    Hello Anita, Since you're a "no-show" on the other
    newsgroup, there's a few things I wanted to add. I still
    find it hard to believe that you don't have sleep apnea.
    When you were tested, were you sleeping on your side or
    your back? Did they attach wires to your legs to monitor
    for twitching and other forms of "restless leg"? If so,
    that should be mentioned on your sleep study results. If
    they didn't check you for that, IMO that's not a full
    sleep study and should be redone. Stress and lack of
    and/or poor sleep can sure cause memory problems.

    I mentioned stress earlier but there's other possible
    causes of some of your symptoms. I don't know what
    palpitations are (feel like) but I may have told you I was
    getting a tingling feeling late in the day for months last
    winter. It's gone away now and perhaps it's because my
    thyroid is more in range since the recent medication dose
    change. So perhaps some of it is your thyroid, it's
    mentioned here amongst others allsands.comallsands.com
    Diseases/heartpalpitatio_wod_gn.htm

    Sleep starts are mentioned here evms.edudisorders
    parasomnias.html They seem to think that they're harmless,
    but if you're connecting them to the cancer, they're not
    harmless. They could be contributing to your lack of
    physical energy. Actually if you're brain is too filled
    with information (brain overload) and late in the day,
    that too can cause sleep quality problems. So I hope you
    can "turn off " your brain early in the evening and see if
    some of these problems resolve. I'm not denying you've had
    a tough time for quite a while now and your system is
    still adjusting. If some of these don't adjust, you may
    want to have a general practitioner do a checkup and
    follow your heart issues, and maybe do some bloodwork to
    make sure you're not deficient in anything, like B12 for
    instance. If the doctors agree, perhaps a mild sleep
    medication would help. Did I mention there's also an
    ultrasound (I think) that can be done of the blood vessels
    up the side of the neck. I think that checks that there's
    good blood flow on each side of the neck to the brain.
    (Sorry, I forget the name of the test - maybe Carotid
    doppler ultrasound ?).

    Also at least twice since my thyroid was dx'd, I
    distinctly remember pointing out that I had pain in my
    thyroid area. I don't know what caused it nor do I know
    what made it go away (nobody could explain it). It just
    was. but when I look up "thyroid" and "pain", Google gives
    me websites about "thyroiditis" which is exactly what I
    had. Which makes me wonder if a mild anti-inflammatory
    might help you, if permitted at this time.

    I'd like to see you feeling much better and ready to face
    the DFSP surgery as soon as possible. I hear ya that you
    want your life back, Anita. You've had a rough time for
    several years now, but we can't go back and change what's
    happened and seems to me you'd want to get on with the
    surgery and then leave all this behind and get on with
    healing and the rest of your life.

    It's up to you, of course. I'll support you whatever your
    decision. I'm here for you and reading, whenever I can be.
    Keep in touch as you can. Hugs J

    The heart palps could be from the thyroid replacement
    hormone, I have had them and they had to lower my dose.
    Stress is a sure thing to avoid at all cost, but unlikely
    to happen.

    Jill

  6. Jill said:

    <snipped>

    The heart palps could be from the thyroid replacement
    hormone, I have had them and they had to lower my dose.

    I suppose that's possible. She'll have to check her most
    recent labwork and see where her TSH is (and what the
    reference range listed beside it is) and then talk to her
    doctor about it.

    Quoted message said:

    Stress is a sure thing to avoid at all cost, but unlikely
    to happen.

    Yep especially since there's good and bad stress :-) J

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