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  1. Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something close?

    Ta

  2. Me said:

    or something close?

    something like a USA jersey you mean ?

    [sorry, I'll get my coat]

    Garryb

  3. Quoted message said:

    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something close?

    Ta

    Go to

    foska.comshop.html

    Click on "The flags" & it'll tak eyou to where you can get a Union Jack jersey. Overpriced at £45
    for a short-sleeved one.

    Cheers, helen s

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  4. try foska.comjersey.html

    "Me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something


    close?

    Quoted message said:


    Ta

  5. "Me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something


    close?

    Why, are you going abroad for a [censored]-up? (better get my coat n'all)

    Pete

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something close?


    Is a WCU one close enough?

  7. "Me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something


    close?

    Quoted message said:


    Ta

    Wiggle have one at a slightly less rip off one at £39.99.

    Andrew

  8. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Union Jack Jersey From: "Me" [email hidden] Date: 17/11/03 18:05 GMT
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Anyone know where I can buy a Union Jack jersey online? or something close?

    Ta

    Suggest you stick to a jersey with a Union Flag on rather than a Union Jack.

    Cycling around with a Royal Navy ship on your cycle can be hard going ;-)

    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.

    Philip Bird

  9. Pkbird said:


    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.

    Do you live in (or near) Hull, by any chance?

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.


    I thought it was the jack staff and at the rear ( blunt end)?

  11. "Pkbird" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when


    flown

    Quoted message said:

    (worn) on the Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.

    I thought so too, but I checked jdawiseman.comunion jack.html and it
    said this:

    The Naval Historic Branch directly, of 3-5 Great Scotland Yard London SW1A 2HW, answered as follows:

    Both and neither. A jack is a sea flag, a small flag, generally rather square in its proportions,
    flown from a flagstaff rigged on the bowsprit or stem of the vessel. The earliest known reference to
    a 'jack' of such a type occurs in 1633, the first reference to the Union (rather than the 'Britain'
    or 'British' flag) dating from 1625 - the Union Flag and the naval jack are much the same age. The
    jack was initially simply a particular instance of the Union Flag, but as the distinctive flag of
    warships it quickly became an exceptionally well-known instance. Technically, all Union Jacks are
    Union Flags, but not vice versa. It is a fine point and one that was much argued over, but it is
    beyond question that the habit of treating the two terms as interchangeable developed early, and it
    would not be difficult to multiply instances of individuals who undoubtedly did understand the
    distinction nevertheless following common usage and using the term Union Jack when Union Flag is
    clearly meant.

    The RN website is quite right in that the Union Jack flown in the bows of commissioned ships is the
    only one which really is a jack (unless you count the white-bordered pilot jack), but not quite so
    on that being the only occasion when it is 'correctly' so called - because the Flag Institute is
    right that the use of Union Jack to mean any Union Flag has been sanctioned both by the Admiralty
    and by Parliament. Equally, it is questionable to suggest that the distinction between Union Jack
    and Union Flag is of particularly recent origin - the Union Flag was also employed as a command
    flag, and there was (and is!) a necessary differentiation to be made, so it is possible that both
    websites could have chosen their words better, but it would also be difficult to avoid questions
    like this arising without going into quite inordinate detail.

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

  12. Pkbird said:


    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.

    Actually not. Language evolves through usage and if you check Chambers it says "Union Jack, noun,
    (also Union Flag) the national flag of the United Kingdom combining the crosses of St Andrew, St
    George and St Patrick". It just goes to demonstate what a gay language we have.

    Tony

  13. marc <marccdimspamremovedimspamto [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.


    I thought it was the jack staff and at the rear ( blunt end)?

    Stern please, and forwards.

    Phil.

  14. On 18 Nov 2003 05:48:04 -0800 someone who may be [email hidden] (Phil Manning) wrote this:-

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    marc <marccdimspamremovedimspamto [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    NB: The UK national flag is the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when flown (worn) on the
    Flagstaff on the front of a Royal Navy ship.


    I thought it was the jack staff and at the rear ( blunt end)?

    Stern please, and forwards.

    On ceremonial occasions the Union Flag is indeed flown from the bows of a Royal Navy ship, when it
    is called the Union Jack. The flag flown at the stern is the White Ensign. Outwith ceremonial
    occasions flags are seldom flown from the bows and the White Ensign is usually flown from the main
    mast, to avoid it interfering with helicopter operations.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
    keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  15. "David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On ceremonial occasions the Union Flag is indeed flown from the bows of a Royal Navy ship, when it
    is called the Union Jack.

    This depends upon whether you consider a ship being alongside as a 'ceremonial occasion'. The
    following is taken from www.royal-navy.mod.uk

    "THE UNION FLAG - The national flag of the United Kingdom is worn as a Jack at the bow by all HM
    ships in commission when alongside or when 'dressed overall'. This is the only occasion when it is
    correctly called the Union Jack, although it is generally known by this name through common usage.
    It is also flown during Courts Martial and is the Distinguishing Flag of an Admiral of the Fleet."
    ___
    Michael MacClancy

  16. David Hart said:

    try foska.comjersey.html

    The Welsh one rocks. I'm technically Welsh (well, I was born there), so I'm tempted.

  17. I agree, being a Cardiff boy and all that.

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Hart said:

    try foska.comjersey.html

    The Welsh one rocks. I'm technically Welsh (well, I was born there), so I'm tempted.

  18. "David Hart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I agree, being a Cardiff boy and all that.

    What part? I'm a Splottite (originally).
    ___
    Michael MacClancy

  19. On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:31:05 -0000 someone who may be "Michael MacClancy"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    This depends upon whether you consider a ship being alongside as a 'ceremonial occasion'.

    One could argue it both ways. Certainly this is when the crew tend to wear sailor suits and other
    things that tend to see little use at sea.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
    keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  20. Canton "Michael MacClancy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "David Hart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I agree, being a Cardiff boy and all that.

    What part? I'm a Splottite (originally).
    ___
    Michael MacClancy

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