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  1. There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie breaking
    surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around part of the wheel.
    The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube popped out and exploded and the
    bike stopped dead.

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not 30mph on
    the
    Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.

    Too much cycling on towpath grinding paste me thinks!

    The upside is that worn out rims, worn smooth knobblies & drive chain with
    too may miles means that the cost of repair would be prohibitive & I'll have
    to buy a new bike instead!

    Shame!

    pk

  2. On 05/01/2007 18:09, p.k. said,

    Quoted message said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie breaking
    surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated

    Now you know why it's called a "breaking" (sic) surface :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  3. p.k. said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie
    breaking surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around
    part of the wheel. The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube popped
    out and exploded and the bike stopped dead.

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not 30mph
    on the
    Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.

    Don't they go with a bang. I had one go like in the dark. I though someone
    was shooting at me.

    --
    Xathras have sad life, probably have sad death, but at least there is
    symmetry

  4. p.k. said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie
    breaking surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around
    part of the wheel. The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube popped
    out and exploded and the bike stopped dead.

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not
    30mph on the
    Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.

    Too much cycling on towpath grinding paste me thinks!

    The upside is that worn out rims, worn smooth knobblies & drive chain
    with too may miles means that the cost of repair would be prohibitive
    & I'll have to buy a new bike instead!

    Shame!

    pk

    Been there...!

  5. Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...

    Thanks,

    Duncan.

    p.k. said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie breaking
    surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around part of the wheel.
    The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube popped out and exploded and the
    bike stopped dead.

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not 30mph on
    the
    Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.

    Too much cycling on towpath grinding paste me thinks!

    The upside is that worn out rims, worn smooth knobblies & drive chain with
    too may miles means that the cost of repair would be prohibitive & I'll have
    to buy a new bike instead!

    Shame!

    pk

  6. Xathras said:
    p.k. said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie
    breaking surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around
    part of the wheel. The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube
    popped out and exploded and the bike stopped dead.

    Ouch! Almost anyway!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not
    30mph on the Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.

    Don't they go with a bang. I had one go like in the dark. I though
    someone was shooting at me.

    I had a cheap tube on the road bike go bang in the kitchen one night.
    Took me ages to work out what had happened. Nearly shat meself too!

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,
    Duncan Smith
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...


    If it feels significantly concave then check it more frequently. If the
    outside edge starts to spread then replace it. If there are any
    hairline cracks then replace it immediately (cracks can be very
    difficult to spot).
    (Rims can spread a little when the tyre is first inflated, but this
    should not be progressive.)

  8. Rob Morley wrote on 05/01/2007 19:43 +0100:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Duncan Smith
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...


    If it feels significantly concave then check it more frequently. If the
    outside edge starts to spread then replace it. If there are any
    hairline cracks then replace it immediately (cracks can be very
    difficult to spot).
    (Rims can spread a little when the tyre is first inflated, but this
    should not be progressive.)

    And occasionally pump the tyre to 50% temporary overpressure which will
    make the rim go bang if it is on the edge already.

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Rob Morley wrote on 05/01/2007 19:43 +0100:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Duncan Smith
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...


    If it feels significantly concave then check it more frequently. If the
    outside edge starts to spread then replace it. If there are any
    hairline cracks then replace it immediately (cracks can be very
    difficult to spot).
    (Rims can spread a little when the tyre is first inflated, but this
    should not be progressive.)

    And occasionally pump the tyre to 50% temporary overpressure which will
    make the rim go bang if it is on the edge already.


    I'd recommend wearing ear defenders and safety glasses, especially if
    you're doing this in a confined space. :-)

  10. Duncan Smith said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...

    Certain types of rim have a wear indicator, in the form of a notch
    that appears as the rim wears and/or a label on the eyelet surface with
    indicator markings showing how far the rim can wear before it should be
    replaced. My Mavics have the label. You can also feel for hollowness I
    believe, but having never worn out a rim I haven't tried this.

    Also:

    http://yarchive.net/bike/rim_wear.html

    Regards,

    -david

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, David
    Nutter
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Duncan Smith said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can be
    spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for wear...

    Certain types of rim have a wear indicator, in the form of a notch
    that appears as the rim wears and/or a label on the eyelet surface with
    indicator markings showing how far the rim can wear before it should be
    replaced.

    ISTM that's when the manufacturer would like you to replace the rim,
    rather than when you actually need a new one. :-)

  12. Duncan Smith said:

    Ouch! What are the tell-tale signs of an imminent collapse that can
    be spotted when inspecting a rim? Most books just say look for
    wear...

    Deep gouges from all the tow path grit getting trapped - it appears from
    inspecting the debris!

    pk

  13. Chris Eilbeck said:
    Xathras said:
    p.k. said:

    There was I cycling along, not a care in the world when the rim (ie
    breaking surface) of my rear wheel disintegrated strip wise around
    part of the wheel. The strip fouled the brake, the inner tube
    popped out and exploded and the bike stopped dead.

    Ouch! Almost anyway!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Fortunately I was doing 2 mph on Kingston Bridge at the time not
    30mph on the Downs in Wimbledon, so no harm was done.


    Don't they go with a bang. I had one go like in the dark. I though
    someone was shooting at me.

    I had a cheap tube on the road bike go bang in the kitchen one night.
    Took me ages to work out what had happened. Nearly shat meself too!

    Chris

    I had a tyre sidewall failure on Wednesday morning. I'd just stopped at
    a traffic light (even in London we do sometimes ;o))and bang! At first I
    though it was a firework.

    That was at the bottom of a hill so I guess I was lucky too.

  14. Nick said:


    That was at the bottom of a hill so I guess I was lucky too.

    Scary thought isn't it. 30mph with a non rotating rear wheel!

    pk

  15. "p.k." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Deep gouges from all the tow path grit getting trapped - it appears from
    inspecting the debris!

    Not using shimano brake blocks are you?

    cheers,
    clive

  16. Nick wrote on 05/01/2007 21:07 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    I had a tyre sidewall failure on Wednesday morning. I'd just stopped at
    a traffic light (even in London we do sometimes ;o))and bang! At first I
    though it was a firework.

    That was at the bottom of a hill so I guess I was lucky too.

    I had a front wheel sidewall and tube fail explosively going down a
    steep stony firetrack at speed on a tandem in Finland. Stopping was
    interesting which my daughter on the back described as scary.

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  17. p.k. said:
    Nick said:

    That was at the bottom of a hill so I guess I was lucky too.

    Scary thought isn't it. 30mph with a non rotating rear wheel!

    Been there done that. Flying down the south downs when the forward
    lower rear mudguard clip[1] lets go and the mudguard pops out and wraps
    around the rear wheel locking it solid in a nano second. 2 seconds of
    apocolyptic fish-tailing follwed by a *big* bang, another 5 seconds of
    worse fish tailing and an eventual stop amid blue smoke and burnt
    rubber. Still, my B17 was brown before I started...

    [1] I had been wondering what the rattle was.

  18. Tony Raven said:


    And occasionally pump the tyre to 50% temporary overpressure which will
    make the rim go bang if it is on the edge already.

    I pumped just a plain inner-tube up 'till it went bang once. That
    was in my garage with the door open - my head rang for some time
    after, and my hearing was out for a little while too. My wife in the
    house (detached from the garage, so sound having penetrated garage
    wall, crossed intervening space and entered through house wall)
    reported the bang was worryingly loud.

    A confined inner-tube will probably go to higher pressure and make a
    bigger bang. Be cautious.

    regards, Ian SMith
    --
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    |o o|
    |/ \|

  19. in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

    (') said:

    Nick wrote on 05/01/2007 21:07 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    I had a tyre sidewall failure on Wednesday morning. I'd just stopped at
    a traffic light (even in London we do sometimes ;o))and bang! At first I
    though it was a firework.

    That was at the bottom of a hill so I guess I was lucky too.

    I had a front wheel sidewall and tube fail explosively going down a
    steep stony firetrack at speed on a tandem in Finland. Stopping was
    interesting which my daughter on the back described as scary.

    I've had that on a fast downhill bend on a road bike. Stopping was, as you
    say, interesting, although somehoe I stayed upright. Manufacturing fault
    in a new tyre (well, it had been sold as a second).

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ; gif ye hes forget our auld plane Scottis quhilk your mother lerit you,
    ; in tymes cuming I sall wryte to you my mind in Latin, for I am nocht
    ; acquyntit with your Southeron
    ;; Letter frae Ninian Winyet tae John Knox datit 27t October 1563

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