ultra run and hydration system

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i am looking to get a water pack any ideas??

This has been discussed ad nauseum. Some like waist belts, others like
camel back and some like to hand held.. They both work and you have to
see what wrokds for you.

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and when using 'clip' can you put it in the pack??
for 20-30 miles runs??

This is what it is made for. If you are worried about it going rancid,
it won't unless you mix it a week before and store it in the sun. I do
prefer it cold and so I will mix it the night before and get it cold.

-DF

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i am looking to get a water pack any ideas??>

Get a sheeps bladder. Cheapest, best tasting water sack on the market
today.

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i am looking to get a water pack any ideas??>

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Get a sheeps bladder. Cheapest, best tasting water sack on the market

today.

I thought you were the one who preferred a goat scrotum?

plodzilla said:

i am looking to get a water pack any ideas??
and when using 'clip' can you put it in the pack??
for 20-30 miles runs??
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ditto what Doug said. I use a backpack because *I* find them easier to
use for long runs where I like to carry the kitchen sink with me - and
we have no aid stations on trail races. If you can refill and run races
with aid stations and don't need to worry about bottles freezing, you
may find waist belts or handhelds work better.

Most runners acquire a collection of handhelds, waist belts, and
backpacks in their search for the holy grail of how to carry fluid and
gear on their long runs. And different ones work under different
conditions - I use 3 different packs, 1 waist belt. Factors are volume
for fluid, volume for gear, ability to refill along the way, need to
keep fluids from boiling / freezing, shoulder strap fit, the way it
rides, size opening of the bladder / bottle (refill with powder/fluid,
add ice cubes, etc), front access (pockets or vest), etc. Fitting right
in the store is no guarantee that it works on the trail.

I've used clip 2, ultra, and cytomax in both bladders and bottles with
no problems. I do put the clip in the bladder - not loose in the pack 😉

Dot
The realities of how much trail gear I've bought in the past year or so
hit when I was recently filling out a TrailRunner mag survey with my
subscription renewal. So much for "just need running shoes" 😉

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"Success is different things to different people"
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i am looking to get a water pack any ideas??
and when using 'clip' can you put it in the pack??
for 20-30 miles runs??
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It makes a difference whether the 20-30 miles is unsupported or in a race
with some and/or limited water. Like others, I have multiple solutions
depending on what's needed for the particular run.

For fully unsupported long runs / treks at higher elevations where little
water is to be found, and/or if extra seasonal gear is required -- I would
choose a somewhat roomy backpack with a 3 liter hydration system, and
probably throw a couple of extra liter bottles in there too. Three things I
don't like about hydration packs are 1) I get tired of sucking the liquid
down 2) They're much harder to clean after using with sports drink, and 3)
you don't know when the bladder is going to run out (hence throwing in extra
bottles).

For long runs in backcountry where water sources are readily available, I
choose a double bottle waistpack with room for a little food, strict
emergency items (a lighter and space blanket). I usually hand carry one
bottle, and in the two holders I'll put another bottle, and a purifier
bottle (one you can fill then squeeze out purified water). This way I can
top off whenever I pass a stream. When the hand carry bottle is empty, it
can be strapped on to the waistpack easily.

Most of my long training runs are set up so I can do variations of loops and
refill bottles at least every hour. If it's very hot I sometimes take two
bottles, either hand-carry or waistpack or combination. Recently I prefer a
single bottle waistpack, but carry the bottle until it's 1/2 empty then put
it in the pack. If less hot I'll take just one bottle. Bottles are far
easier to fill, mix powder in, clean, and you can see/feel exactly how much
is left in them.

In long races I always carry at least one bottle, same as above, that way
you can drink some at the water stop, then sip the bottle and stay well
hydrated. Of course in road races with water stops every 1-2 miles this
isn't necessary. In my upcoming race, a 30km mountain race with limited
water, I'll use a 2 bottle waistpack and bring powders to mix for at least
5-6 refills, some Clip 2, and some different flavors of accelerade.

-Tony

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I thought you were the one who preferred a goat scrotum?>

Only as a tobacco pouch. I do find "other areas" of the sheep quite
attractive, butt not goat scrots.