Ultra Light Bicycle Touring

What is the name of the group?

Ernie

Karstens Rage said:

There is a new Yahoo group devoted to the ideas, gear and philosophies
of Ultra Light or Light Bicycle Touring. Right now most of the members
are direct from the Backpacking side of UltraLight. They have lots of
ideas on lightweight gear, sleeping at your destination, protecting
yourself from the elements, clothing, etc.

Bicycle touring has some of the same objectives but can bring a lot to
the table with respect to weight, what works on bikes (we know cold even
if we dont hang out in the Sierras), clothing, water, food, credit card
touring vs. "roughing it" (whatever that might mean to you) and more.

This is not a group about lightweight bicycle components. Its more about
bicycle touring without a touring bicycle (ride your Merlin Extralight
cross country?)

The group is moderated and small yet. Come make it bigger.

k

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Karstens Rage said:

There is a new Yahoo group devoted to the ideas, gear and philosophies
of Ultra Light or Light Bicycle Touring. Right now most of the members
are direct from the Backpacking side of UltraLight. They have lots of
ideas on lightweight gear, sleeping at your destination, protecting
yourself from the elements, clothing, etc.

Bicycle touring has some of the same objectives but can bring a lot to
the table with respect to weight, what works on bikes (we know cold even
if we dont hang out in the Sierras), clothing, water, food, credit card
touring vs. "roughing it" (whatever that might mean to you) and more.

The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

Karstens Rage said:

There is a new Yahoo group devoted to the ideas, gear and philosophies
of Ultra Light or Light Bicycle Touring. Right now most of the members
are direct from the Backpacking side of UltraLight. They have lots of
ideas on lightweight gear, sleeping at your destination, protecting
yourself from the elements, clothing, etc.

Bicycle touring has some of the same objectives but can bring a lot to
the table with respect to weight, what works on bikes (we know cold even
if we dont hang out in the Sierras), clothing, water, food, credit card
touring vs. "roughing it" (whatever that might mean to you) and more.

The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

In rec.bicycles.misc gwhite said:

The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

i took it to mean in the context of long distance unsupported touring. in
that case a credit card is not enuf. i do it solo with this:

http://www.visi.com/~reuteler/pannier2002.html

about 30 pounds & that's considered very light for what it is. "credit
card" touring is usually only for a few days. in much of the west, at any
rate, you're fairly likely to be caught somewhere with no motels in sight.
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Karstens Rage said:

There is a new Yahoo group devoted to the ideas, gear and
philosophies of Ultra Light or Light Bicycle Touring. Right now most
of the members are direct from the Backpacking side of UltraLight.
They have lots of ideas on lightweight gear, sleeping at your
destination, protecting yourself from the elements, clothing, etc.

Bicycle touring has some of the same objectives but can bring a lot
to the table with respect to weight, what works on bikes (we know
cold even if we dont hang out in the Sierras), clothing, water,
food, credit card touring vs. "roughing it" (whatever that might
mean to you) and more.

The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

Mine's overloaded.

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The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

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Mine's overloaded.

With carbon fiber and titanium?

Matt O.

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Karstens Rage said:

There is a new Yahoo group devoted to the ideas, gear and
philosophies of Ultra Light or Light Bicycle Touring. Right now most
of the members are direct from the Backpacking side of UltraLight.
They have lots of ideas on lightweight gear, sleeping at your
destination, protecting yourself from the elements, clothing, etc.

Bicycle touring has some of the same objectives but can bring a lot
to the table with respect to weight, what works on bikes (we know
cold even if we dont hang out in the Sierras), clothing, water,
food, credit card touring vs. "roughing it" (whatever that might
mean to you) and more.

The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

Mine's overloaded.

Dear DRS,

Try a new mini-credit-card, about 2 & 7/16" by 1 &
7/16"--much lighter and faster than the old cards.

Carl Fogel

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The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

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Mine's overloaded.

With carbon fiber and titanium?

I wish. :-)

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The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

Mine's overloaded.

Dear DRS,

Try a new mini-credit-card, about 2 & 7/16" by 1 &
7/16"--much lighter and faster than the old cards.

Carl Fogel

What's that in metric and are they red?

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> The credit card is about as ultralight as it gets.

Mine's overloaded.

Dear DRS,

Try a new mini-credit-card, about 2 & 7/16" by 1 &
7/16"--much lighter and faster than the old cards.

Carl Fogel

What's that in metric and are they red?

Dear DRS,

Horrors! They're actually much larger than I said. I feel as
dishonest as a tire-width claim.

Careful (well, okay, almost accidental) re-checking shows
that the true dimensions are 2 & 9/16" by 1 & 9/16".

So they're approximately 65.0875 mm x 39.6875 mm, although
some might daringly round things off to 65 mm x 40 mm.

And yesterday they read just fine in the card-reader.

Carl Fogel

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What's that in metric and are they red?

Dear DRS,

Horrors! They're actually much larger than I said. I feel as
dishonest as a tire-width claim.

Careful (well, okay, almost accidental) re-checking shows
that the true dimensions are 2 & 9/16" by 1 & 9/16".

So they're approximately 65.0875 mm x 39.6875 mm, although
some might daringly round things off to 65 mm x 40 mm.

And yesterday they read just fine in the card-reader.

Carl Fogel

Just for the hell of it I measured my credit card: 85mm x 54mm. I suppose
the mini ones must have lower credit limits. Perhaps I should get one.

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What's that in metric and are they red?

Dear DRS,

Horrors! They're actually much larger than I said. I feel as
dishonest as a tire-width claim.

Careful (well, okay, almost accidental) re-checking shows
that the true dimensions are 2 & 9/16" by 1 & 9/16".

So they're approximately 65.0875 mm x 39.6875 mm, although
some might daringly round things off to 65 mm x 40 mm.

And yesterday they read just fine in the card-reader.

Carl Fogel

Just for the hell of it I measured my credit card: 85mm x 54mm. I suppose
the mini ones must have lower credit limits. Perhaps I should get one.

Dear DRS,

While the weight savings of the smaller card cannot be
emphasized too strongly, there are other advantages.

The smaller credit cards usually come as a second card on
the same account, so they retain the same credit limit as
the larger ones, yet they offer greatly improved
handling--the smaller card uses plastic of the same
thickness, so the effect is that of a smaller, stiffer
frame. I estimate the improvement to be at least as much as
going from a 62 cm frame down to a 52 cm frame!

More important is the reduced drag--the narrower, shorter
card whips out of a leather wallet with far less effort than
its clunky predecessor. It's like putting aero bars and a
disk wheel on a financial Fury RoadMaster!

You also get to enjoy the same startled looks from people
who've never seen such exotic equipment.

Of course, there are drawbacks. I haven't tried putting my
Moulton-style mini-card into an automatic gas-pump yet for
fear that it might not come back out.

Carl Fogel