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  1. OK Got some questions about making An UW
    1.First of all what size is best to learn/ride on
    2.What should pedal position (how far apart), and what type of pedals
    should they be (plastic, bmx
    type, ect.)
    3.What kind of Rim (aluminum) do you recommend using
    4.what kind of Tire

    I plan on buying a rim/tire and some aluminum flatbar and welding it
    inside the rim in some sort of a star patern like the Nimbus ones on
    UDC

    thanks much

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  2. I have two ultimate wheels. Both 24" wheels. One has 125mm crank
    spacing and the other has 150mm crank spacing. I find the one with
    150mm crank spacing to be easier to ride.

    Maybe you can figure out a design where you could have pedal holes
    drilled at both 125mm and 150mm. That will allow you to experiment and
    decide which length you like better.

    Larger wheels are generally easier. I have ridden 24", 26", and 28"
    ultimate wheels. I can't manage the 20" (but have only tried a few
    times). They get easier to control as they get bigger.

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  3. I have absolutely no expertise, but I do have a lot at getting hit with
    cranks while attempting to seat drag...you'll get real good at SIF and
    seat drag! I've 'heard'
    (http://www.unicycling.org/unicycling/uwmenu.html)(I think) that UW's
    are the bigger, the easier! You might also want this 'thing(s)'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=463).

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  4. john_childs said:

    Maybe you can figure out a design where you could have pedal holes
    drilled at both 125mm and 150mm. That will allow you to experiment and
    decide which length you like better.

    Drilling and tapping two holes is an awsome idea. It should be easy
    enough to do. What i really need to know is what sort of tire should i
    go for, like a wider one or a road bike type tyre. And for size im
    thinking 26 because of rim selection.

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  5. pinefresh said:

    Drilling and tapping two holes is an awsome idea. It should be easy
    enough to do. What i really need to know is what sort of tire should i
    go for, like a wider one or a road bike type tyre. And for size im
    thinking 26 because of rim selection.

    The important part about the tire is that the sidewall is smooth. No
    tread extending down or even sticking out on the side. Those kinds of
    tires are difficult to find. The tires UDC has on their ultimate
    wheels are OK. I have seen some balloon style whitewall cruiser tires
    that are good for ultimate wheels. You'll have to look around. If the
    tire has raised lettering on the sidewall you might even want to sand
    the raised lettering down.

    Then spray the side of the tire with silicone spray lubricant. It
    comes in an aerosol can and you can get it at auto parts stores.

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  6. I think I'll go to my LBS, the owner is very helpfull and can probly
    make a suggestion.
    thanks for your help john

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  7. hmm, I've been wondering about UW's too, for tires, could you simply
    sand down the sidewall?

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  8. pinefresh said:

    I think I'll go to my LBS, the owner is very helpfull and can probly
    make a suggestion.
    thanks for your help john

    Ask Darren Bedford. He has some good UW tires.

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  9. Bigger wheels are easier to learn on.

    I found the best combo to be a wide rim and a narrow tyre. Going for
    26" gives you a big choice of rims and tyres; far more than 24". 27" or
    700c are good options, too.

    The stickiness of the sides of the tyre makes a big difference. As you
    are learning you will rub a lot. Go for a hard tyre rather than a
    grippy soft one. If you can find an amber wall rather than a black
    wall then they tend to be smoother.

    Some people apply furniture polish or silicon spray to the sides to aid
    slippiness. I've not foud this needded if you choose thr right tyre but
    it might help.

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  10. talk to keven (mawesome) mal( onebyone) and brian mckenzie ( brian
    mckenzie) i think he made one similar to mals or mal made on simalar to
    his

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  11. jake_amos said:

    talk to keven (mawesome) mal( onebyone) and brian mckenzie ( brian
    mckenzie) i think he made one similar to mals or mal made on simalar to
    his

    and by a similar one he means one made using a 36" rim.

    i know nothing about ultimate wheels (including how to ride them) so i
    cant be of much help. sorry!

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  12. The bigger they are, the easier it is to ride. A 36"er; you'll have to
    make it yourself, but it'll be really cool when you own one. Mal
    (Onebyone) copied the design off Brian Mckenzie's one in -insert video
    name here-.

    you can make a "cranky" uw by taking the frame off a wheel (i suggest
    26"-29"😉 but they're kind of different to regular UW's.

    That's all i can help with. Hope it helps.

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  13. pinefresh said:


    ...and what type of pedals should they be (plastic, bmx type, ect.)

    The more grip the better, and bear trap style pedals will bend when the
    wheel falls over and you land on top of it.

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  14. 1. In case you are an adult of an average size 24" because it's equal to
    a footstep. However if you're riding a regular unicycle of another size
    already (e.q. 20" or 26"😉 then that size would be easier for you to
    start with.

    2.What should pedal position (how far apart), and what type of pedals
    should they be (plastic, bmx type, ect.)
    You can make a couple of different length positions on the same wheel.
    Myself I would take the cranck-length of your unicycle that you use the
    most.

    Borges said:

    The more grip the better, and bear trap style pedals will bend when the
    wheel falls over and you land on top of it.

    Yes, I prefer those plastic pedals with a kind of bed.
    Maybe 'these' (http://tinyurl.com/kkyjj) are nice. But then also buy a
    pair of 'these'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50377) (a product
    I've never used myself).

    3.What kind of Rim (aluminum) do you recommend using:
    Any common rim will do. And other metals than alu will be fine as
    well.

    4.what kind of Tire:
    One with as less profile, especially on the sides.
    During your learning stage the profile will eat your legs.
    So the Primo "Comet" will be a nice one!

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  15. 1.First of all aveage size should have a 24" but i did learn on a 20" &
    it wanted to pivot at your ankles so i reccomend 24"
    2.i am not sure on this and i rather grippy plastic pedal
    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=216
    3.i would reccomend a aluminum but any would work
    4.about 1-1.5" wide & a very smooth side wall'
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=288)

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  16. john_childs said:

    The important part about the tire is that the sidewall is smooth. No
    tread extending down or even sticking out on the side. Those kinds of
    tires are difficult to find. The tires UDC has on their ultimate
    wheels are OK. I have seen some balloon style whitewall cruiser tires
    that are good for ultimate wheels. You'll have to look around. If the
    tire has raised lettering on the sidewall you might even want to sand
    the raised lettering down.

    Then spray the side of the tire with silicone spray lubricant. It
    comes in an aerosol can and you can get it at auto parts stores.

    hookworm tyre good for this typr of thing?

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  17. dan de man said:

    hookworm tyre good for this typr of thing?

    I don't think so. I don't have a hookworm tire to check, but I'm
    pretty sure the tread wraps around to the sides too much.

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  18. Use a 700 cc or even a 36" rim.

    mawesome said:

    A 36"er; you'll have to make it yourself, but it'll be really cool when
    you own one. Mal (Onebyone) copied the design off Brian Mckenzie's one
    in -insert video name here-.

    "Training Wheel not Required"

    mawesome said:

    you can make a "cranky" uw by taking the frame off a wheel (i suggest
    26"-29"😉 but they're kind of different to regular UW's.

    As in "Wheel of Justice"

    leo said:

    You can make a couple of different length positions on the same wheel.

    A good idea.

    leo said:

    Yes, Maybe 'these' (http://tinyurl.com/kkyjj) are nice.

    :eek: An absolute steal for magnesium pedals (less weight=less wheel
    flop). Too bad I'm broke🙁 .

    leo said:

    also buy a pair of 'these'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50377) (a product
    I've never used myself).

    I have. They have really kept my new pedals and riding surfaces from
    getting dinged up.

    john_childs said:

    I don't think so. I don't have a hookworm tire to check, but I'm pretty
    sure the tread wraps around to the sides too much.

    I agree.

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  19. what Is a good overall size then? 24"?

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