Ultimate Hot Weather Material?//would shirtless be best

My *personal* view is that Coolmax is better at cooling than bare skin.

It wicks sweat and spreads it over a larger area which causes it to
evaporate and cool you down quicker.

YMMV...

"wle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

assume you will be wearing lots of sunblock, which some people consider
to inhibit the natural sweat-evaporation process somewhat..

wle.

"C.J.Patten" wrote: (clip)Coolmax is better at cooling than bare skin. It
wicks sweat and spreads it over a larger area which causes it to evaporate
and cool you down quicker.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's true. Sweat which runs off your body does no cooling. Any wicking
fabric works more like a swamp cooler.

Leo: are you by any chance in marketing?

I think you just stumbled on the BEST marketing idea for a new line of
"wicking" clothing:
"SwampCooler" brand cycling jerseys!!! 😄 😄 😄

(copyright 2005 C.J.Patten, all rights reserved... ha! beat you to it... 😉

"Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"C.J.Patten" wrote: (clip)Coolmax is better at cooling than bare skin. It
wicks sweat and spreads it over a larger area which causes it to
evaporate and cool you down quicker.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's true. Sweat which runs off your body does no cooling. Any wicking
fabric works more like a swamp cooler.

wle said:

so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

assume you will be wearing lots of sunblock, which some people consider
to inhibit the natural sweat-evaporation process somewhat..

wle.

No. If that were true, the denizens of the Middle East would run around
nekkid. Instead, they're completely covered. This does a couple things:
1. The skin is shaded, allowing sweat to evaporate slowly.
2. Air travels upward under the clothing, cooling the skin at a
controlled rate.

For most cycling, loose, light-colored fabric works to shade the skin,
keep heated fabric away from the skin, and allow for more normal
evaporation.

Taking the "keep the fabric away from the skin" formula to extremes, a
fabric body sock as used on some recumbents:
http://www.pacifier.com/~jwills/springride2004/pages/springride53.htm
can keep you in the shade. Spraying water on the inside will turn the
fabric into a swamp cooler- I've talked to people who had to climb out
when they got too chilled... with the outside temperature over 100
degrees.

Jeff

"C.J.Patten" wrote: Leo: are you by any chance in marketing?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No way.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you just stumbled on the BEST marketing idea for a new line of
"wicking" clothing:

Quoted message said:

"SwampCooler" brand cycling jerseys!!! 😄 😄 😄

(copyright 2005 C.J.Patten, all rights reserved... ha! beat you to it...
😉

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I always know which of my ideas are the good ones. Someone ELSE comes out
with them.

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"C.J.Patten" wrote: (clip)Coolmax is better at cooling than bare skin. It
wicks sweat and spreads it over a larger area which causes it to
evaporate and cool you down quicker.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's true. Sweat which runs off your body does no cooling. Any
wicking fabric works more like a swamp cooler.

"wle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

Depends. Are your breasts perky?

🙂

Lee

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Quoted message said:

so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

assume you will be wearing lots of sunblock, which some people
consider to inhibit the natural sweat-evaporation process somewhat..

wle.

Rivendell has a fantastic shirt for, as they call it, "Sweltering"
weather: a longsleeve cotton seersucker dress shirt.

Long sleeves for protection from the sun. Cotton seersucker fabric
because it's puckered, and sits up off the skin. It soaks up the sweat,
and allows airflow to cool you. I've got one and it's my favorite shirt,
on or off the bike.

Which leads to the last point - it doesn't look like a costume when
you're not on the bike. Wear baggy shorts, and when you get drinks after
the ride, you look like you're on your way to a Jimmy Buffet concert.

http://www.rivbike.com/webalog/clothing/22437.html

Plus, it's 100% made in the USA.

-Hank

wle said:

so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

assume you will be wearing lots of sunblock, which some people consider
to inhibit the natural sweat-evaporation process somewhat..

wle.

My better jerseys are cooler than going bare. Kinda weird to pull on a shirt and
start cooling off.

Ron

JeffWills said:

No. If that were true, the denizens of the Middle East would run around
nekkid. Instead, they're completely covered. This does a couple things:
1. The skin is shaded, allowing sweat to evaporate slowly.
2. Air travels upward under the clothing, cooling the skin at a
controlled rate.

Middle eastern clothing habits arose before the opportunity to engage in
high intensity sport arose (no bicycles). I'd say that they probably are
trading off some performance in order to maintain hydration. As long as
we have access to more water, this isn't a problem.

Derek Hodges
Toronto

wle said:

so i know the religion is, synthetic high tech is better than cotton.

[though i think for high humidity, anything will get soaked.]

my thought experiment for today is this:

-- would shirtless be best of all ? --

assume you will be wearing lots of sunblock, which some people consider
to inhibit the natural sweat-evaporation process somewhat..

wle.

Try open weave wool. like merino type wool, with a synthetic undershirt
or none. Not hot at all, very comfy, wicks well, doesn't stink.

what about "the emperor's new clothes" brand??

wle.

"wle" wrote: what about "the emperor's new clothes" brand??
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What would you sell, empty boxes?

Gawd. $46 for a cotton shirt? A light weight long sleeve shirt is
excellent for riding in bright sun, but any thrift shop cotton-poly
dress shirt will do. I like cotton-poly because it dries faster on
tour, but a cotton seersucker or Madras would do, too. You certainly do
not need to spend $40+. Maybe a $1.50 at a thrift shop if you do not
have any loose fitting old dress shirts just lying around. -- Jay
Beattie.

shirt popping up here is excellent BUT requires a good back coat of
sunscreen and buildup skin tanning.

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=38303078&memberId=12500226