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  1. Quoted message said:

    If the motorist did leave the road I suspect they would claim they had
    been blinded :-(

    If motorist had of hit me I suspect I might be dead :-/

    Quoted message said:

    Good reflectives and light clothing would seem appropriate when walking
    on such paths.

    Did I say I didn't have any of the above in addition to the light? Or are you
    telepathic, John B?

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  2. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:


    Quoted message said:

    If the motorist did leave the road I suspect they would claim they had
    been blinded :-(

    If motorist had of hit me I suspect I might be dead :-/

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good reflectives and light clothing would seem appropriate when walking
    on such paths.

    Quoted message said:

    Did I say I didn't have any of the above in addition to the light?

    I never said you did or didn't.

    As others have said, when riding, it may not be a good idea to shine a
    light in the face of an oncoming motorist.
    I just don't think its a good idea, pavement, road, anywhere, and if my
    life were at risk I'd probably be more likely to be jumping out of the
    way rather than flashing a light in their eyes.

    But hey, - let's differ.

    John B

  3. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As others have said, when riding, it may not be a good idea to shine a
    light in the face of an oncoming motorist.
    I just don't think its a good idea, pavement, road, anywhere, and if my
    life were at risk I'd probably be more likely to be jumping out of the
    way rather than flashing a light in their eyes.

    I think this also depends on how bright the light is. Flashing a 55W car
    headlamp around would be a bad idea, flashing my caving lamp on pilot (0.5W)
    would probably not even get noticed. I suspect Helen's torch is somewhere
    between the two, and probably not very dazzling.

    FWIW I reckon the thing to do is to be moving, ie flashing the light around
    will make it a lot more obvious that leaving it still. Otherwise people may
    just think you're a reflective post (yes, I do mean that).

    cheers,
    clive

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    And motorists who won't dip. I used to have vengeful thoughts of fitting
    a really powerful photographic flashlight to the front of my bike to
    deal with such tossers.


    Metz 60CL-4 is what you're looking for ;-)

  5. Clive George said:


    "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As others have said, when riding, it may not be a good idea to shine a
    light in the face of an oncoming motorist.
    I just don't think its a good idea, pavement, road, anywhere, and if my
    life were at risk I'd probably be more likely to be jumping out of the
    way rather than flashing a light in their eyes.

    Quoted message said:

    FWIW I reckon the thing to do is to be moving, ie flashing the light around
    will make it a lot more obvious that leaving it still. Otherwise people may
    just think you're a reflective post (yes, I do mean that).

    I agree completely.
    I find that when walking with a torch it wobbles around a bit anyway -
    just come back from delivering daughter to saxophone using a couple of
    miles dark dark country paths.

    Nearly trod on a hedgehog, too.

    John B

  6. Quoted message said:

    I think this also depends on how bright the light is.

    Yeah, I shine two (dipped) car headlights at oncoming drivers all the time
    and no one has crashed yet.

  7. JohnB said:
    dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:
    Quoted message said:

    Phew. IMO dodgy.
    I certainly wouldn't do that from the pavement.
    I don't like the idea of shining a bright light at a motorist as he
    approaches me.

    Quoted message said:

    Damn sight less dodgy than motorist not seeing me in place where there is no
    street lighting - otherwise pitch-black and due to run-off from nearby fields
    and gardens, very difficult to tell where footpath ends and road begins...

    If the motorist did leave the road I suspect they would claim they had
    been blinded :-(
    Good reflectives and light clothing would seem appropriate when walking
    on such paths.

    John B


    Given the amount of badly adjusted headlights on the road these days,
    any motorist claiming to have been dazzled by a hand-held light such as
    helen's is just taking the [censored], IMO.

    I've done exactly the same as her, in the same situation, and it's clear
    that drivers who are approaching too fast and are making no attempt to
    slow to pass safely *do* give every indication of only just having seen
    something is there when you give them a brief flash, regardless of how
    visible your light should be prior to that.

    I'll continue to do that too. I'm talking a brief flash, not a 'point
    it at their eyes till you see the reflection in them' stuff. And as I
    said, compared to the problem of badly adjusted headlights, it pales
    into insignificance.

    --

    Velvet

  8. Velvet said:


    JohnB said:
    dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    >Phew. IMO dodgy.
    >I certainly wouldn't do that from the pavement.
    >I don't like the idea of shining a bright light at a motorist as he
    >approaches me.

    Quoted message said:

    Damn sight less dodgy than motorist not seeing me in place where there is no
    street lighting - otherwise pitch-black and due to run-off from nearby fields
    and gardens, very difficult to tell where footpath ends and road begins...

    If the motorist did leave the road I suspect they would claim they had
    been blinded :-(
    Good reflectives and light clothing would seem appropriate when walking
    on such paths.

    John B


    Given the amount of badly adjusted headlights on the road these days,
    any motorist claiming to have been dazzled by a hand-held light such as
    helen's is just taking the [censored], IMO.

    Of course the light intensity matters.
    Wasn't there a case of a cyclist on an adjacent cycle path whose light
    (it was claimed) dazzled an oncoming motorist who then mounted the
    path and killed the cyclist?

    Quoted message said:

    I've done exactly the same as her, in the same situation, and it's clear
    that drivers who are approaching too fast

    It intrigues some people can so easily estimate the speed of a vehicle
    travelling towards them, in the pitch dark, with headlights facing them.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll continue to do that too. I'm talking a brief flash, not a 'point
    it at their eyes till you see the reflection in them' stuff.

    OK. We'll disagree.

    In these days of blame culture I do feel that you would be subjected to
    a claim of contributing towards any accident, however unjustified that
    may be.

    John B

  9. Quoted message said:

    In these days of blame culture I do feel that you would be subjected to
    a claim of contributing towards any accident, however unjustified that
    may be.

    John B

    I do hope you never leave your house John, what with all those people out there
    waiting to sue on any excuse whatsoever ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

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  10. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:


    Quoted message said:

    In these days of blame culture I do feel that you would be subjected to
    a claim of contributing towards any accident, however unjustified that
    may be.

    Quoted message said:

    all those people out there
    waiting to sue on any excuse whatsoever ;-)

    So true.

    John B

  11. Mark Tranchant said:
    Brian Drury said:

    All the recent lighting posts set me thinking....

    On the shelf in the shed lying next to some 12V 2Ah NiCad packs is a
    surprisingly small 12V 150W commercial aircraft landing light. This thing is
    bright, very bright.

    20A should give about 6 mins run time.

    In your dreams. If you discharge NiCd at 10C, you'll find it won't make
    its full capacity. My guess is that you'll get a dimmer light than
    expected for maybe 3-4 minutes, and the batteries won't put up with many
    cycles like that.

    Depends on teh Nicad. My model electric hovercraft takes 40A from
    1.4Ah nicads with minimal drop (no detectable loss of power at the
    props). It drops a bit at 50A, but only just detectably. Those are
    cells intended for high current discharge, and the OP doesn't specify
    what his are.

    However, it won't be legal on road - I thgink you're limitted to 3.6W,
    and it must be from a bulb with teh right BS markings.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  12. Mark Thompson said:

    Yeah, I shine two (dipped) car headlights at oncoming drivers all the time
    and no one has crashed yet.

    <pedant>
    If they're correctly adjusted then you should be shining them towards
    the left hand side of the road, rather than at oncoming drivers.
    </pedant>

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  13. JohnB said:

    Of course the light intensity matters.
    Wasn't there a case of a cyclist on an adjacent cycle path whose light
    (it was claimed) dazzled an oncoming motorist who then mounted the
    path and killed the cyclist?

    ISTR they were on an adjacent pavement, not designated a cyclepath. But
    anyway, a Google groups search for messages posted here in November 2002
    with the heading "Copied from rec.bicycles.soc" will bring up a
    discussion about it, as will a search for messages posted to
    rec.bicycles.soc with the heading "DAZZLING LIGHT CLUES TO CYCLE DEATHS".

    --
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    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  14. Danny Colyer said:


    Mark Thompson said:

    Yeah, I shine two (dipped) car headlights at oncoming drivers all the time
    and no one has crashed yet.

    <pedant>
    If they're correctly adjusted then you should be shining them towards
    the left hand side of the road, rather than at oncoming drivers.
    </pedant>

    <amazed> a road in the UK without bends or bumps? </amazed>

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    ---
    Marten

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